posted October 09, 2007 06:43 PM         

But here's the deal. When I AM able to get centered and aligned, it's fabulous. And everyone has to experience their own Center. I don't think it would do any good to try and describe my experience. I don't even know if I could find words to describe it anyway.

Whether you choose to continue trying is up to you. All I can share is that I'm glad I persisted. For me, it's worth the effort.

posted October 10, 2007 01:41 PM         

When I do it, I can't silence my mind. It's too hard, I need loads of practice. Tho I did read a "tip" about meditating...you gotta pay attention to that moment between thoughts. Like when one thought ends, before the next one pops up, there's "nothing" in the middle. I guess with practice that "nothing" grows and grows until you think of "nothing" I dunno why I find that funny.

posted October 10, 2007 02:14 PM         

Then I am way far from it because sometimes I have thoughts over thoughts, I can be thinking about one thing and all of the sudden I am in another subject I started while thinking about something else.

posted October 10, 2007 02:32 PM         

Maybe meditation has different outcomes for each individual.

Sometimes I meditate on something, a problem that needs solving, an emotion I would like to understand, for example its origins; and sometimes I meditate to cleanse myself, to purge out something I feel unclean, and sometimes to get a certain feeling.

I have found that with years practice it has become easier.

the results i get are as follows:

1) I sometimes feel a deep sense of love and a connectivity to everything, as if I can actually feel that I am the universe.

2) Sometimes I get the feeling that I understand the universe, that feelign when everything makes sense, even though when I get out of that space I can not articulate, in words what I felt.

3) Sometimes I feel as if I have been sleeping, but consciously doing so the same way you described, as if I have just woken up from a deep sleep.

4) Sometimes, depending on which methos I used at the time, I feel either shocks of energy or electricity either entering my body or leaving it.

5) then sometimes I feel nothing, as if I had just closed my eyes with nothing out of body happening to me, and this is when I suspect that i had not been focusing well enough.

One time I meditated and i felt physical pain afterwards. It went away after a few days. it felt like cramps, muscles were tight and I was stiff.

posted October 11, 2007 04:24 AM         

I thought of a couple of things that have helped me that you might experiment with.

A gentle smile during meditation puts my facial muscles into a harmonious position somehow. Do you suppose that's why Buddha is so often shown smiling?

posted October 11, 2007 05:27 PM         

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Sometimes I get the feeling that I understand the universe, that feeling when everything makes sense, even though when I get out of that space I can not articulate, in words what I felt.

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Hmm....I wouldn't mind having that feeling! I feel there is no good reason for suffering in this world; I am tormented by this feeling every day of my life.
A lot of things make sense to me, but one thing that doesn't....is the existence of the extremity of suffering.

But Unity....yes.
I feel very much that I understand Unity. I often feel attuned to this when I'm in active meditation (I rarely ever meditate in the classic way, though I am going to try and do it more). I feel Oneness especially around nature or when listening to music.