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Ami Anne
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posted September 01, 2014 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if I planted it. I have 3 of them. They are really tall 5-6 feet. The leaves are kind of jagged like a saw but wide jags. One has tiny, ting white flowers like a 16th of an inch, even. One has tiny pink/purple flowers.
Bugs are eating the leaves which means it is edible, I think.
I have spent so much time trying to figure out what it is..

They look like small trees.

I am a sunflower freak and got different kinds and planted them.

Could it be a weird sunflower?

I am flummoxed

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posted September 01, 2014 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No scent?

Cause I just put this one on my list.

(It's deer-resistant, yay.)

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posted September 01, 2014 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NO, E, the flowers are not vertical but like all next to each other but really small. So weird

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posted September 01, 2014 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Umbrella-like?

Those all resemble each other.

Some can be toxic.

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posted September 01, 2014 10:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Umbrella-like?

Those all resemble each other.

Some can be toxic.


yes, it's shape is an umbrella but bugs are eating the leaves.

So weird. I can't identify it

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posted September 01, 2014 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ellynlvx:
Umbrella-like?

Those all resemble each other.

Some can be toxic.



I cannot find it---soo weird E

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posted September 01, 2014 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds a bit like Archangel, but with all the ones it looks like, I would never chance it if it is not a positive id.

Birds eat things that we cannot. I know that.

Always Be Safe.

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posted September 01, 2014 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2014 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is that it?

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posted September 02, 2014 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think so, E and thank you. The flowers are really small and kind of clumped and one tree, so to speak, is all white and the other is all pink.purple.

The bees love it and I have so many bees now and a cherry tree has beautiful cherries on it.

The leaves of this tree are eaten by bugs boding for an edible plant.

What do you think and thanks for all your help!

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posted September 02, 2014 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have 4 actually. I think I planted them and they are not wild because I spaced them. Oh, the joys of an earth void

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posted September 02, 2014 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Since I got my new computer and phone, I am not sure how to take pictures

I am such a goof.

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posted September 02, 2014 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 02, 2014 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, the flowers don't cascade. They are horizontal more than vertical. I think they are edible, E, so under an edible category. Maybe an herb

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posted September 03, 2014 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, well.

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posted September 04, 2014 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Those were Herbs.

I'm just trying to think of anything that would grow that tall in one Season.

That is not a Tree.

Jerusalem Artichokes are yellow.

Not sure.

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posted September 04, 2014 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, so weird LOL

If bugs bite it, can I assume it is edible? I am not gonna eat it, per se, just a sense of it, E.

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posted September 04, 2014 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, like I said, birds can eat some things we can't.

So I wouldn't ever try anything I didn't have a positive id on.

Much better to Be Safe.

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posted September 07, 2014 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks like bugs but my friend took a picture and will take it to the nursery. The bees love it and I have a ton of bees around which makes me sooooo happy!!

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posted September 21, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
E

I am so excited. I think it is elderberry.

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posted September 21, 2014 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am soooo excited that I figured out what it was. I am reading about them.

You have to cook the berries but you can eat the leaves and twigs

They are so gorgeous.

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posted September 21, 2014 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love Elder.

I have one right beside the Bridge here.

Within sight of my Dining Room Window.

They are Wonderful!

The Flowers smell like Honey, they make a great Cough Syrup.

One thing that is really great, it is growing down by the Creek, but you can pick the berries and/or flowers from atop the bridge.

I have a bunch of the flowers dried on my Green-Doored Cabinet Hutch Windowed Drawer Thingymajiggerus.

On top of the Victorian Trading Company Catalogue.

Yum!

I just Love Elder Tea!

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posted September 22, 2014 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Question for you E

I read you have to wait until the berries are dark purple or you could get sick.


Also, I am gonna juice the leaves today. Does that sound good?

can you juice the flowers?

How do you make the tea?

Can you use the flowers to make the tea/

ALSO, I have some other bushes but the flowers are pink/purple but they look the same.

Does elderberry come in pink/purple

Thanks soooooo much

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Poisoning from Elderberry Juice -- California

On August 26, 1983, eight people with acute gastrointestinal and neurologic symptoms were flown by helicopter to a Monterey, California, hospital. Earlier that day, they had attended a gathering for 25 persons of a religious/philosophic group in a remote area of Monterey County. Within 15 minutes after drinking refreshments, 11 persons began to have nausea and vomiting. The eight persons most ill reported nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramps, and weakness. Some also complained of dizziness and numbness; one was stuporous and was hospitalized. Arterial blood gases were normal for all eight, as were serum cyanide levels (reported later). The San Francisco Bay Area Regional Poison Control Center was promptly consulted regarding treatment for possible cyanide poisoning, but specific treatment was not given because 4 hours had elapsed since exposure, blood gases were normal, and the patients were stable. All recovered quickly, including the patient hospitalized overnight.

Investigation by the Monterey County Health Department revealed that staff at the religious center had gathered local, wild elderberries 2 days before the outbreak and had prepared juice from them the next day. Bunches of berries were crushed with their leaves and branches in a stainless-steel press. Apple juice, water, and sugar were added, and the mixture was stored overnight. The drink was served the next day in a stainless-steel pot to the group of 25 persons. Severity of illness correlated with the amount of elderberry juice consumed; those who drank only tea remained well. The hospitalized person had consumed five glasses of the juice; the others, much less.
Editorial Note

Editorial Note: The indigenous elder tree of the western United States, Sambucus mexicana, can grow to 30 feet and produces small (1/4-inch), globular, nearly black berries that can be covered with a white bloom at maturity. The berries are juicy and edible when mature. The cooked berries are commonly eaten in pies and jams, and berry juice can be fermented into wine. The fresh leaves, flowers, bark, young buds, and roots contain a bitter alkaloid and also a glucoside that, under certain conditions, can produce hydrocyanic acid. The amount of acid produced is usually greatest in young leaves. There may be other toxic constituents in this plant. The root is probably the most poisonous and may be responsible for occasional pig deaths; cattle and sheep have died after eating leaves and young shoot

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posted September 22, 2014 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I picked a bag of the leaves but am not gonna use them lol

Weird cuz some sites say they are good to eat

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