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Bissie
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posted March 13, 2002 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
me again - always researching..hehe..

now what I need is to find an answer - what the PLutonian people are about ? I really can`t figute them out so far - too mysterois I guess...???
so, dear ones, if you have strong Pluto in your chart, overactive 8th house, or several Scorpio planets in your chart - please, drop me a line...I need to investigate your deep-seated emotions...LOL


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Princess
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posted March 13, 2002 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie~ Does Mars and Saturn in Scorpio in the 8th house with Neptune/Libra, and Pluto in Leo/7th meet your criteria? I wanna know my deep seated emotions

~Princess

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Bissie
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posted March 13, 2002 12:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Princess, i think you are qualified enough...

now tell me all about your Mars in Scorpio in 8th and Pluto in 7th...i have PLuto in 7th myself by the way...do you happen to madly fall in love ? not just falling in love - been absorbed with love? or is it only sex that you want? hmmm..inquiring mind want to know..

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Princess
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posted March 13, 2002 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie~ YES ! I fall madly in love - it's never *subtle* Obsorbed in Love? Yes, indeed. But, sex without Love is just ... boring - to me

Really, I couldn't tell you what any of my placements *mean* cuz I am an astro-dummy ! I rely on astro-genius types for that

~Princess

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"I think the Goddess lives in our humanity, and not anywhere else."
~Merlin's last words - to Viviann ~ . + * + . * . Mists of Avalon . + * + . * . ~

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Randall
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posted March 13, 2002 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in the first here.

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"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot

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Elohim
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posted March 13, 2002 11:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct Mars and Venus , in my 4th house in Libra.

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Virgo Rising
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posted March 14, 2002 04:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto conjunct Venus in the 12th in opposition to Moon and Jupiter in the 6th....all of THAT is square Mars in the 9th.
Do I win a prize???? Ohhh...maybe not...no planets in Scorpio But wait!...Scorpio ruling the 3rd would be the 'empty leg' of a Cross. Get back to me quick, I'm sure I need analyzing!

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Bissie
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posted March 14, 2002 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehe, I meant I need your notes on your character in order to understand you better, you Plutonian people....I just make the conclusion ...not analyses..

the guy with the Pluto conjuncting Mars and Venus in 4th, are you actually real? WOW..what a sound and fury ...are they conjuncted closely or in a wide orbit?

VirgoRising ..you are quite a character yourself too, aren`t you?

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Virgo Rising
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posted March 14, 2002 05:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would have to say that I am often descibed as stubborn My motto is "Don't TELL me what to do!!!!" And I excell at creating impenetrable walls.
On the other hand, I am open-minded, loyal, and I have a good sense of humor

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Princess
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posted March 14, 2002 05:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
?? Define *Plutonian People*

Oh, ok... Scully just reminded me Pluto rules Scorpio I think I get it now

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"I think the Goddess lives in our humanity, and not anywhere else."
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Bissie
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posted March 15, 2002 01:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for VirgoRising :

"Venus-Pluto Aspects: It's Nobody's Business If I Do"

here is an amazing link regarding Venus -Pluto aspect, you will love it if you still havn`t read it...
http://www.mountainastrologer.com/scorpio/299cunningham.html

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Virgo Rising
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posted March 15, 2002 08:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That was pretty interesting Bissie. Not sure just how Plutonian I would say that I am. Definitely not impressed by money or power. I have an admiration for anything (or anyone) UNIQUE and I really admire anyone who can do something that I can't (but would like to). Mental prowess is highly admirable in my book.
The one thing that jumped out at me in the description was that Venus lends itself to compromise and Pluto demands absolute control. My conjunction is in Virgo so the control issue is combined with perfectionism. Its tough on other people but they'd be more sympathetic if they knew how hard I am on myself! I'd say I'm willing to compromise as long as it leads to the perfect solution.
As far as the sexual aspect....uh....I plead the Fifth!

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raj_105_2001
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posted March 16, 2002 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great, Bissie! Pluto interested me very much, right from the day I recognized Him(Her).

Aside, are you an Aries? Just wanted to know.

According to Love Signs, in the Libran stage of consciousness, the soul keeps analysing, arguing(discussing) different points of view by the time this becomes subconscious, the soul reaches the Plutonian stage of awareness. Now all the 'discussions' are taking place in the Plutonian's subconscious, and since the subconscious has a wide range of 'data' available to it than the conscious, wakeful mind, it makes the Plutonian very perceptive.

As for Pluto's sex, it is said, he vibrates to the Third Energy - in Love Signs - Introduction.

So much for the 'theory'.

Plutonians are deep, intense, totally committed people. They will do anything and everything, taxing their souls to the maximum extent necessary, (not 'possible') if necessary. In this stage of awareness, the soul needs to understand and live out its pain and weaknesses, so that it can enjoy life more fully and optimistically in the coming Saggittarian consciousness.

Unevolved Plutonians impose their will on others. Through a variety of manipulations. The evolved Pluto ruled on the other hand, will understand you deeply, recognize your uniqueness, and will be willing to do anything so that you can grow, evolve and become yours-elf.

Besides everything, Pluto is the Brilliant Strategist. Even when He(She) taxes you, there is a reason for doing it.

Does that answer your question?

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raj_105_2001
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posted March 16, 2002 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for raj_105_2001     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie, I have this thing for making everything positive, I can 'prove' there is nothing sinister about Pluto.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000161.html

Hmmm, Just now I noticed that I have started the topic in Pluto's month - November that is and on 13th - the numbers speak for thems-elves.

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Bissie
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posted March 16, 2002 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raj,
truly I loved what you said:
"Unevolved Plutonians impose their will on others. Through a variety of manipulations. The evolved Pluto ruled on the other hand, will understand you deeply, recognize your uniqueness, and will be willing to do anything so that you can grow, evolve and become yours-elf."
Absolutely correct - You just generalised the character of the PLutonians with a couple of words... amazing!

for all Plutonian people here :

"And now you know
why people want so desperately
to "experience" you,

and then get frightened away
by the intensity
of what they
felt. "

Bissie

P.S. Raj, I am a Virgo, and don`t even have a single planet in Aries, in fact my Mars in Leo is the only fire planet in my whole chart

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Elohim
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posted March 16, 2002 04:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie ~ I have even Mercury there!

But actually, I looked at my chart carefully, and I find that the angles among the four planets are a little wider than what counts (my guess ~ I don't exactly know how wide the orbs are supposed to be). Here are the angles among these four planets of mine:

Mercury to Pluto: 6 degrees
Pluto to Mars: 5 degrees
Mars to Venus: 3 degrees


So, do these counts as conjuntions? Can somebody please tell me?

I read from the link you posted about Venus-Pluto. The characteristics described there are true for me to some extent, but in a much more 'mild' manner. Maybe it is because all of these planets are in Libra, the sign of balance. Had they been in, say, Leo or Scorpio, things would have been much more intense.

And I suppose, I am real. You see, I'm Virgo, and so I think. And "I think, therefore I am".

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Bissie
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posted March 16, 2002 09:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elohim,

you didn`t mentioned the orb of Venus/Pluto conj.?
the orb usually is 8 degree but when outer planet is involved - it should be at a lesser degree, the tighter the aspect- the stronger it is felt, for Pluto - its 1,2 or 3 degree, you can count 4 too

where is your Moon?

and what is with your nick name? sounds rare

B.

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adwen
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posted March 16, 2002 06:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bissie,
I thought you were a fire sign too
BTW, My ascendent and mercury are in scorpio. This tends to make ones thinking very complex. I'm often told that in my essays for school. Scorpio tends to make you "deep"
btw, I loved your words for Plutonians

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Elohim
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posted March 18, 2002 09:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Bissie!

So it means my Pluto is not conjunct with anything ... oh, well.

The angle between my Pluto and Venus is (5+3) 8 degrees. In my last post, I had written the angles in the sequence in which the planets in my fourth house appeared ~ first Mercury, followed by Pluto, and so on.

And, my moon is in

About "Elohim" ~ I understand they are the "gods" which create uni-verses, galaxies and planets on behalf of *the* Supreme Creator. Earth itself was created by the elohim. I learnt this from the Operation Terra website. You can read the "introduction" at: http://www.operationterra.com/Messages/opterra1.html

The Hebrew religious texts also call the world's creators by the name "Elohim". It is a plural word, and the singular is "El" ( I didn't know this when I chose my nic. )

The elohim have also been termed as the "upper management" for the hierarchies of angels Don't you love official-sounding titles?

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Intact0903
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posted March 18, 2002 11:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto in Libra and the first, Mars in Scorpio and the first here.

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