posted October 10, 2002 12:00 PM              

I just received an urgent email from one of the Knowflakes from the other LG site. She wasn't there a whole lot, yet she and I have stayed in touch over the years. This just came in today. Will you all please offer your feelings and advice? She is a sweet Leo girl with Venus in Libra, a real sweetheart, and she is totally perplexed. In particular, you older, more august Knowflakes...please help...

Wed, 09 Oct 2002 18:16:40 -0500

Hey Carlo!

A lot is going on right now. My boyfriend just graduated from MBA school last May, and hasn't found a job yet, because of the job market. All of a sudden he gets a job that will be located in Bahrain (the archipelego off Saudi Arabia). Well, actually he is in the process of getting the job, he went through all rounds of interviews successfully. Now, they are flying him into Bahrain for an interview. But, I am sure they will give him an offer. So, he wants me to go with him for two years to Bahrain. If he gets the job, should I go?? He will be making a lot of money and will be supporting me there. I researched the country and it is very much Islamic culture, where women should wear sheaths. It is one of the most liberal countries there, but I am afraid of our safety because of the war against terrorism. If I don't go, I am sure we will have to break up our relationship. I am only considering going, because I thought it might be an adventure, and I can write the novel I have always wanted to write. Plus, I hate my job, so not working there is a plus. But I do still want to have a life for myself and progress career-wise for myself. I don't know if our relationship is worth it.. I don't know if I can trust him with my life so quickly.. I don't know if he truly cares about me!! Can you please help me!!! Do some witchy magic or astrological/tarot thing???

Her birth info: 8/18/78. 6:45pm at Kouhiung, Taiwan

His birth info: 2/4/71. don't know birth time. Oakland, Calfornia.

Any advice is appreciated.

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Now, I have no special spell for her as of yet, and I figured a thread and the words of you all would be helpful. I will not have time to get to their synastry done for a while, can someone please help? Thank you

posted October 10, 2002 12:10 PM              

i don't have time to look at their charts right now. sorry.

but, i think it would be wise for her to look into her legal rights both in the US and to where she is thinking of moving. once she is over there, even though she may be living in US quarters, she is still under their Islamic culture and law. being unmarried and living with a man over there may have some undesirable consequences.

i wish her the best of luck, and the utmost clarity of thought.

posted October 10, 2002 10:13 PM              

Whew, when I read the email, I got the feeling she wasn't as interested in love as she was in getting her life in order. So, I ran a quick Magi check on the problem aspects. This is what I got.

HIS SUN SQUARE YOUR URANUS
HERE TONIGHT GONE TOMORROW. This Clash is often a sign that that if this relationship blossoms into intimacy, it is more likely to be short-term rather than enduring. The common result of this clash is attraction and a one-night stand. That makes this clash perfect to have with a person when all you want is to have fun, whether you are a girl or a boy.

HIS CHIRON OPPOSITION YOUR MARS
SEXUAL CLASH and SEXUAL LINKAGE. LUST HATE CLASH. Of all the interaspects, this one is most likely to create a love hate relationship, or should we say lust hate relationship. This creates a high degree of sexual attraction but it comes at the price of incompatibility. To complicate matters even more, if a couple has another Sexual Clash in addition to this one, then the two Sexual Clashes combine to form a Super Sexual Linkage.

HIS MERCURY OPPOSITION YOUR JUPITER
SPELL IT OUT CLASH. Inhibits understanding and togetherness by impeding your abilities to understand each other. This clash will often make one or both of you impatient with each other when you discuss certain types of issues. When a couple has this Clash, there are times when neither person can take shortcuts when communicating with the other. You have to spell it out.

HIS JUPITER SQUARE YOUR SATURN
SATURN CLASH. You are the Saturn Person of this Clash. From the standpoint of compatibility, this is the worst of all clashes. Almost anything you do together that would help you ends in failure. This usually results in a highly stressful relationship with a lot of finger pointing. Even worse, this clash tends to bind the two of you together in spite of these problems. YOU MUST gather up the strength to make the break. This Clash has a way of dragging both of you down. You are likely to eventually regret any relationship that you have had with him/her.

HIS NEPTUNE SQUARE YOUR SATURN
SATURN CLASH. You are the Saturn person of this clash and this gives you significant control over this person's life. If you view this influence as a serious responsibility, you can be of great help to this person. But unless you are very giving, unselfish and wise, this clash is a relationship breaker and could break one or both of you as well. If you do not truly love this person, we suggest you move on because the responsibilities created by this clash can overwhelm you and will result in a bitter breakup where both of you will be traumatized. ONLY TRUE LOVE can overpower this clash.

HIS URANUS PARALLEL YOUR VENUS
FLUCTUATING RELATIONSHIP. This is a Uranus Linkage. Because Uranus is non-committal and does not believe in long-term relationships, this linkage often reduces the chances of long-term love and marriage. Unless a couple has very strong Chiron Linkages, this linkage generally decreases the probability of a lifelong marriage and increases the likelihood that one or both partners will have affairs. For this reason, this is a great linkage to have with someone if you are looking for just a fling. The normal attributes of this linkage fulfill perfectly the requirements of a casual affair: sexual attraction, no emotional ties, no commitments, and the affair naturally fades away with no complications.

I focused on the harder aspects. These would be the problem areas and I feel are important to know and understand.

posted October 12, 2002 10:39 AM            

Anyway, it sounds like you're still looking for more opinions, so here's mine .....

On reading the email I would say the thing that she needs to decide is "how much she really loves her boyfriend"
Her email doesn't sound to me like she feels he is her Soulmate...

She says....
"If I don't go, I am sure we will have to break up our relationship. I am only considering going, because I thought it might be an adventure, and I can write the novel I have always wanted to write. Plus, I hate my job, so not working there is a plus. But I do still want to have a life for myself and progress career-wise for myself. I don't know if our relationship is worth it.. I don't know if I can trust him with my life so quickly.. I don't know if he truly cares about me!!"

"She's only considering going because she thinks it would be an adventure"......
There are plenty of other ways to have an adventure.

She hates her job......
Not working there would be a plus.......
Write the novel she always wanted to....
I don't know if our relationship is worth it.......
I don't know if I can trust him with my life........

Well I think you can see where "I'm coming from".
I don't think her email gives one reason why she should go away with him. To me it says she's bored with her life and needs to change it. Plus she's unsure of her relationship with him but doesn't want him to go away incase it finishes the relationship.
I really feel that she should concentrate on herself and what she wants out of life at the moment. Rather than following someone half way across the world, who she is not really sure of.
If this relationship is meant to be, they will still be there for each other, despite the distance.

As a compromise, maybe she should think about letting him go out there on his own and plan to follow him in 3 months time. The 3 months apart should tell them both how they really feel.
Sue

posted October 12, 2002 11:23 AM              

I was glad to be able to help in any way I could. I sure hope she takes her time with this important decision. My "gut" instinct is NO NO NO!! That was my first impression and I usually go with that. It just seems so scary to move to the Mid East with all that is going on. Of course, we are only more aware of it now, due to the media coverage, but I suspect it has always been sort of like that. I remember, years ago, I had an opportunity to go over there as a nurse. Well, all the doctors at work told me not to go, they said I wouldn't last there due to my independent streak.

Cat, that was very well expressed. It goes along with the feeling I got, I just couldn't express it as well.

posted October 12, 2002 11:39 AM              

Eh, OK - this is going to sound horrible, so I may as well go ahead and say it:
The "new gulf war", if it is to occur (and it seems increasingly likely that it is) will not be a replay of the last. For one, the last quite deliberately stopped short of ousting Saddam (leaving, btw the Kurds and other would-be supporters in the lurch and at the mercy of a despot once we pulled out); this one will not. "Regime change" is the stated goal of this administration ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2320625.stm ), which is bound to make us even more popular in the region ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2310071.stm and http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2321307.stm ). Then there's the threat of further escalation due to short-sightedness as detailed by the CIA ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2315967.stm - _so there_ to anyone that thinks that the intelligence community must side with hawks as a default).
While we may have the reluctant support of the governments of some of the surrounding countries (and while official rhetoric may deny that we do, in all likelihood back-channel communiques express otherwise) - we have, after all, supported innumerable dictators worldwide in the name of stability...or oil...-the support of the people is a different matter. In Saudi Arabia (and stella's right: it is a place of unusual oppression; the following is to be taken as an example of the re-direction of anger that is so common in the region, and as nothing more), for instance, "free speech" is a nice phrase meaning "The speech is free as long as it is not directed against the government, its actions, or its policies"; people desperate for a voice have turned to fundamentalist and radical strains of Islam, in part because dissent voiced through that line (and more often than not directed against the West, and the US in particular) are allowed - much of the frustration and anger that would otherwise be directed towards the House of Saud has instead been turned towards the United States.
This animosity is not constrained by state lines. Even in Egypt - historically, one of our closest allies in the region and a recipient of a massive dose of annual monetary aid -, fundamentalist clerics have offered a reward to anyone who can inject acid into the body an American. In Iraq, too, historically a bastion of a decidedly secular form of Islam, the ideas of the pan-Islamic movement and of fundamentalism have found firm root. Burqas, in 1991 virtually non-existent in its streets, are becoming increasingly more prominent.
Bahrain, while considerably more "free" and liberal than many other countries in that part of the world, does not exist in a vacuum. Rest assured that any violence and instability in the region will spill over in some way, shape, or form - even if it is only shown through increased terrorist activity.

To live in the Middle East would be a nearly unparalled adventure that I cannot say for certain I would pass up (such is the recklessness of youth), but it is a prospect that must be carefully, even painstakingly considered in the current international climate. Your friend should explore her options in every remotely possible situation before even approaching making a decision (for instance, what if the seemingly unlikely scenario of the "compound" that she's living on being overrun actually transpires? Don't laugh - one of my PoliSci profs lived in Iran shortly before the revolution, and she said that the average foriegner - even one as deeply emeshed in the local life as she was - had no idea that it was even possible there until it happened).

One thing's fer sure: if she does go, she'll have some unmatchable experiences - the question being, of course, whether or not she feels she wants or needs to go through them.

Corri

PS - And don't think that I have anything against Islam itself. I just think that Pan-Islamacism and Fundamentalism is as scary as the Christian Crusades and Fundamentalists.

posted October 15, 2002 07:40 PM              

I am the one that has the dilemma, and has finally gotten the time to get registered. First off, I want to say how appreciative and thankful I am for all of your opinions and responses. Most of all, I am touched that a fellow knowflake (Carlos ) is getting so worked up and protective of me in this situation. Thank you thank you XOXO. And yes, we have to go to Cripple Creek someday!

I feel it is my duty to update you all on what I will be actually doing, and just to share my experiences that will come to transpire soon. I will be going with the boyfriend to visit Bahrain for a week, our flight leaves this Thursday. The company is flying him over for final interviews, along with me. Even though he doesn't have this job yet, I really believe that they will give it to him , b/c everyone else is too scared to go. And I know he will take this offer, as it is in his book, too good to be true. We are going to explore the island, and just feel out the energy. Contrary to some beliefs on this site, I do really care about him, and would like to be with him; hence me even considering of going with him. And also me making a big deal out of this.

I know I sounded cold in my email, but please take into account that I was freaking out, and trying to access my rational Aquarian moon, in trying to see plus and minuses for MY life overall and not just my love life.

Donna, thanks for your analysis, though it leaves me a bit disturbed. I do see some truths to it, but those are the areas we try to work on. I chose a somewhat difficult relationship because I feel for him, and I believe that there are lessons to be learned through these differences and difficult aspects. Perhaps just to get a little closer to God's way of loving.

I don't know much about politics, but I am aware. Reading all this information about the situation is helpful, but I don't want to parylyze myself in fear. THus, visiting him is a great idea.

Let us all do our own way of spreading good throughout the world to diminish such negativity and evil this war is bringing. I don't want to sound even more corny, so I'll stop here.

I will update all on what Bahrain is really like!!

posted October 16, 2002 02:26 AM              

I do believe Love can always overcome a bad clash and they are areas that if understood, can ease us through the tough times. Sometimes, just awareness of the harsher aspects can help when their energies touch us. The influence on the relationship will be there, but also the influence of the good linkages will be there, they don't cancel each other out.

So, that said, I feel very bad that I caused any disturbing thoughts for you. There are two very wonderful aspects between your charts and I will put them in here now, because having shown the harsher ones, these will show that there is some really good and positive influences there also.

HIS VENUS PARALLEL YOUR NEPTUNE
ROMANCE LINKAGE. LIFETIME LINKAGE. ROMANTIC GOLDEN LINKAGE. This is one of the most powerful Romance Linkages and is often symbolic of an enduring romance. In terms of creating lifelong relationships, this is the best Linkage other than the Cinderella Linkages.

HIS CHIRON CONTRA-PARALLEL YOUR VENUS
ROMANCE LINKAGE. CINDERELLA LINKAGE. MAGICAL LINKAGE. In terms of romantic attraction, this is the most powerful linkage that you can have with anyone. This linkage occurs more often in married couples than any other linkage. If the two of you also form a Romantic Super Linkage, then you have the astrological basis necessary to fall in love. This linkage is also a sign that the two of you can be very helpful to each other, sometimes without even trying because being able to help each other is in the stars. That's why this linkage is MAGIcal. This is the linkage that COMBINES DESTINIES and it almost has a mystical power and seems to aid the linked persons in anything that they do together so long as they are in love.

Donna

posted December 04, 2002 10:48 PM              

Plus, if she has doubts about going and being with this man, you know, it doesn't sound good.

I have heard of two many women imprisoned for crazy things over there in many different countries, I can't keep track of which ones they are, I just know not to jeapordize my freedom..

And Stella, you are telling me that in a country where Arabic is the language and ALL the people practice Muslim, and the country is right next to Saudi Arabia that you can wear a bikini?? Have you done this? Bear with me I am young and curious and not trying to challenge you, just curious.

posted December 04, 2002 11:53 PM              

I'm useless with regard to synastry and stuff, so I guess I'll just give my opinions.

I'd probably go if I were you. If not just for the love of your bf, then also for the chance to experience and learn. I don't really undestand the clashing aspects, but I think even your bf were to stay and not take up the job, those aspects will still have to be worked out anyway.

I think it's going to be a great chance for you to learn more about youself and bf, and to expand your horizon. Opportunities like this don't come very often, do they?

As for the danger, hmm... all I'll say is, if "it"'s meant to happen, it's meant to happen. If you see what I mean.

So there goes my 2 cents.

Love and blessings,

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