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moonshadow
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posted October 31, 2002 09:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can someone please halp me to work this out. I don't think I am accurate. What is the distance between my sun and moon?
10 July 1973, Brits, South Africa, 18:57 PM

Thanks!

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MARY
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posted October 31, 2002 09:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have medical astrology definitions...Is that what you are looking for?
Medical Astrology


The following list of anotomical correspondences suggests sensitive areas for the natives (you) of each of the twelve signs; that is, people in whose charts the sign is emphasized. Whether by Sun, Moon, Ascendant, or Planet.
The indications become particularly significant if the Sixth and/or Twelfth houses are involved.


Aries: rules the head and face, which are sensitive areas for natives of this sign. Arians are subject to colds, congestion of the brain, sinusitis, headaches, neuralgia, cutaneous eruptions on the face, and problems with the eyes. They are usually endowed with a strong constitution and great stamina.


Gemini: rules the hands, arms, shoulders, lungs, and upper rib cage, whence the predisposition of natives of this sign to arthritis, bursitis,uper back pain, and intercostal pain. Mercury, the ruling planet, governs the respiratory and nervous systems, so that these are also sensitive areas. Geminis usually have strong hands and arms, and good wind– if they don’t smoke.


Cancer: rules the breasts, stomach, thorax, liver, digestive system, and general metabolism. Since Cancer is the most sensitive of the signs, its natives are extremely susceptible to disease, especially colds, depression,and alcoholism. They are also gifted with amazing recuperative powers.


Leo: rules the heart, the spinal co;umn, and the lower back. The Leo native is more suseptible than natives of other signs to lower back pain, coronary disease, and heart attacks and should therefore avoid leading too sedentary an existance. However, unless the chart is afflicted, he or she probably injoys excellent health.


Virgo: rules the abdomen and the organs it contains, especially the digestive tract, the spleen, and the duodenum. Virgo natives are particularly susceptible to intestinal and eliminatory problems, such as diarrhea, colitis, peritonitis, and hemorrhoids. Virgo’s sensitivity to imurities in the environment and Mercury’s rulership of the respiratory and nervous system may account for these natives’ greater tendency to be afflicted with allergies. But their greatest enemy is worry.


Libra: rules the kidneys, adrenal glands, lumbar region, ovaries, skin.Afflictions in this sign, combined with dietary overindulgence, may eventually lead to such diseases as cystitis, renal colic, kidney stone, diabetes, and Bright’s disease. Libra people should drink plenty of liquids in order to promote the proper functioning of the kidneys.


Scorpio: rules the reproductive system, the excretory system (especially the large intestine and the bladder), and psychic healing. Natives of this sign are famous for their recuperative powers. They are also those most susceptible to venereal disease.


Sagittarius: rules the hips, thighs, sciatic nerve, sacrum, and coccyx. Sagittarians must guard against rheumatism, sciatica, fractures of the hips or femur, and overdoing it in general. They love outdoor exercise and, like the other fire signs, have plenty of energy.


Carpricorn: rules the knees, the joints, the connective tissue, and , through Saturn’s rulership, the body’s defenses– the skin, bones, hair, and nails. These people are particularly susceptible to colds, skin problems, anxiety, and chronic disease. They must learn to relax and enjoy themseleves.


Aquarius: rules the calves, ankles, and the cirulation of the blood. Aquarians tend to be absentminded and to suffer from poor muscular coordination. Through the influence of Uranus, they may be prone to accidents, especially those involving the feet and ankles.

Pisces: rules the feet, the lymphatic system, and the glands, especially the lachrymal glands. Afflictions in this sign are associtated with water retention, low vitality, and a predisposition to melancholy, fantasy, and the abuse of drugs.


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Carlo
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posted October 31, 2002 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No woman wonders about the actual distance in degrees between her Sun and Moon if she isn't thinking about astrobiology and fertility, either for purposes of conception avoidance or conception planning.

Your Magic Number is 128, Moonshadow. You are okay to have sex now, and will not be fertile for at last another two weeks. Be especially mindful Fri, Nov 15, the next day that you will be fertile

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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Bissie
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posted October 31, 2002 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moonshadow

the distance between your Sun and Moon (i.e. Solar/Lunar Arc) is:

Sun - Moo. Arc: 127°50'

if you are having in mind what is the best time to conceive (Sun-Moon solar arc return), then here is the next few Solar Arcs returns for you:

Sun -Moo. Arc: Nov. 15 2002, 7h
Sun -Moo. Arc: Dec. 15 2002, 3h
Sun -Moo. Arc: Jan. 14 2003, 1h
Sun -Moo. Arc: Feb. 12 2003, 20h
Sun -Moo. Arc: Mar. 14 2003, 12h

I believe that is what you are asking, no?

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Donna
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posted October 31, 2002 01:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Moonshadow,

Bissie is right, your Sun Moon angle is of the First Quarter type at 127degrees 51'. I use the Matrix WinStar Plus program to calculate, so much easier than doing it by hand.

Here is an interesting article on fertility--
http://www.elysian.co.uk/astrologicalfertility.htm

Donna

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Donna
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posted October 31, 2002 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just thought I would add some more links for fertility cycles.
http://www.menstruation.com.au/periodpages/twofertile.html
http://www.menstruation.com.au/periodpages/lunarphases.html
http://vzone.virgin.net/jason.davies4/Articles/fertile.htm
http://www.fertilityrhythms.com/
http://atlantisrising.com/issue7/ar7topastro1.html


Donna

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pidaua
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posted October 31, 2002 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI Carlo,

Ohhhhh, tell me, what about my fertility zone?

12/16/1969 11:45pm Artesia, Cali

How is So Cal?

Pidaua

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Silhouette
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posted October 31, 2002 11:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the information, Mary! Very helpful when one is health-oriented. What was your source (s)?

Thank you again!

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moonshadow
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posted November 01, 2002 01:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey you guys are the greatest! My software doesn't calculate it so I was worried I wasn't accurate. It is for purposes of conception. And the dates and everything! Cool!

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moonshadow
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posted November 01, 2002 02:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donna, that article states that if the moon is in a positive sign at that time it will be a boy and if it is negative it will be a girl.Did I understand it correctly?
Thanks!

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Donna
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posted November 01, 2002 07:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moonshadow,

Correct!! Fire and Air signs indicate male chldren, Earth and Water signs indicate female children.

But we never quite know how long it takes the semen to reach the egg. The average semen lives for 48 to 60 hours. In that time span the Moon may have entered the next sign. Although, I have found most females have that "feeling" of when conception took place, and they are usually right. So, knowing the sign the moon was in during that "knowing, feeling" time is usually a good indicater of what the gender will be.

Donna

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Carlo
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posted November 01, 2002 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pidaua,

You have a Sun-Moon trine by sign:

Su 25 Sg 12
Mo 11 Ar 02

So your Magic Number, as Linda calls it, is 134. 120° plus the additional 14°. So when the Sun and Moon are 134° apart each month, you is a fertile Myrtle Refrain from embracing one day prior and one day after, two days on either side according to Linda, to be super safe.

I have tested this method hundred of times by having unprotected sex with my partners just eyeballing their chart. I can do it just knowing the signs. I have taught astrobiology, and have helped couples conceive with it.

So you look at an ephemeris each month, circle the date of 134° apart, and you're done. So if the Sun now is in Scorpio, you will be fertile when the Moon is in late Pisces.

I apologize, I miscalculated moonshadow's number. It's close to the same as pidaua. I thought trine=90°, plus 8°, since moonshadow has Sun at 18 Cn and Moon at 26 Scorpio. sooo sry for the mistake. A trine is 120°, so add 8° and it's 128 for a Magic Number. Moon in Pisces this month is still the right time to refrain for moonshadow, I got that right. We all make mistakes sometimes

I love So Cal pidaua!! Come visit LA sometime, you can stay with us Be sure and bring a nice Virgo man, or I'll find you one here

Love,
Carlo

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Muse1
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posted November 02, 2002 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Muse1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow I just had to say this is GREAT information I think every woman should know it. I mean I understand why my cycle goes a little off. I was wondering could you guys tell when you are fertile or ovulating? Sometimes I can well a lot of times especially in the past few years I have learned to listen to my body, but I just hesitated because I used to think I was wrong. Thanks Ladies !!!!

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pidaua
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posted November 03, 2002 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo!!!!

You are sooooo great!!! Thank you for the information and for the invite to LA. So did you all MOVE out there? I thought you were just visiting? Actually, I will be going to West to visit my mom in Las Vegas and then on to my Dad's in Corona, CA. I am taking an extended vacation, Yippeeeee....from 12/15 to 1/3/03. I usually never indulge myself in such a long holiday, but I have been a workaholic for 3 years now and it is time to have FUN!!!

I am glad that you are having a blast out there in Sunny Cali, I so envy you!!

Take Care,

Shawnee

(That's my real name )

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Carlo
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posted November 03, 2002 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Right on Shawnee

yep, I am in Hollywood You are welcome to stop by and stay if you like Knowflake membership has its privileges although I am not sure where Corona is or if you will pass through, yet if you do, kick out a shout

Also, if anyone is looking for a great dealio on some fabo astrology books, I just listed a bunch on ebay today:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSe llersOtherItems&userid=carloravin&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1&include=0&page=1&rows=25

The auctions are for seven days beginning this morning.

I thought I would make some auctions for the Knowflakes. If you live elsewhere besides the U.S., shipping is calculated post-auction, and non-U.S. bidders have to pay with paypal or US currency only. These are some great books, I just have a such a huge astrology library, I have to make some room. Usually you're lucky to find a few good astrology books on ebay, most of the stuff under "astrology" is like decals and shirts and mugs and stuff like that. This is as inexpensive as you will find these books, if you can even find them.

Okie doke, off to see Frida! Salma is such a beautiful Virgo girl, isn't she? She is topless in a few scenes of this movie. It looks pretty good, I am more of a fan of historical movies like this than much of what Hollywood churns out. Hopefully I can change things out here...one script at a time

Bright Blessings,
Carlo


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MARY
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posted November 04, 2002 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Silhouette, My information came from "Larousse Encyclopedia Of Astrology" it is packed with info.... I got it from a library book sale!!! for a quarter!!!!
I go to the book sales all the time , you can really find some neat stuff.
I found this really awsome book "The Celestine Prophecy" have you read it. How wierd that I went off the subject.... Anyway it is about how everything happens for a reason.

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Aselzion
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posted November 11, 2002 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo...

I don't mean any disrespect, but having "unprotected sex hundreds of times with my various partners just eyeballing their charts" is not only lunacy in this day of AIDS and other STD's, but irresponsible as an astrologer.

I'm sorry but as an RN as well as an astrologer, I'd have to question the ethics of that practice. I'd submit that perhaps you were more LUCKY than WISE, but that is only my opinion as a medical practitioner and an Astrologer.

Perhaps I misunderstood your meaning, and if so I apologize.

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Carlo
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posted November 11, 2002 10:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice try sweetheart! Yet I did not mean unprotected sex with hundreds of partners, dummy, I meant unprotected sex with my partners, specifically my wives, since I have been using this method for over ten years. So it has nothing to do with luck, toots, and it certainly is not wisdom, so don't put words into my mouth. It is simply excellent math skills. I am a Virgo, I live for the details. I am an expert at astrobiology, and have applied it hundreds of times in my own life.

Now I don't care what anyone says, even a nurse. No one uses condoms with their spouses, not even you babe, if you are even o ever were married. And that's what I meant. And of course the Knowflakes that I was with, I totally trusted them not to have AIDS. These were adult women from excellent backgrounds, and whether "you never really know", it is not Russian roulette, I had the law of probability on my side. You Western medical establishment people think "Boo, AIDS!" scares everyone, well it doesn't. I have *known* (nd it's not a knowledge I'd ever expect you to understand, honey, so don't even try) who to trust, have been tested and had partners get tested, and have been careful. I have never had an STD nor do I carry or have HIV. So no matter how much you and "the establishment" thinks unprotected sex of any kind is bad, my opinion is screw all of you. There is work that needs to be done and sometimes you have to take risks for results! And to all you conservative career nurses from Massachusetts, your opinion...no me importa.

By "eyeball" I meant that if I have seen a woman's chart just once I can know when the Moon is in the right sign to avoid sex. I am expert at it actually. And that's that.

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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Aselzion
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posted November 11, 2002 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo, sorry.. I'm not a toots or a sweetheart, nor a Taurean, nor an ex of yours.

I'm a male. I practice astrology professionally in addition to my nursing, and one of my specialties is medical astrology, so I would not consider that I have no experience in the field.

I apologize if I offended, I was just making a comment on what I thought I had read... much as Linda herself would have done (Quadruple Aries, as she states in Star Signs); I knew her and lived with her in Cripple Creek for some time in the late 1980's.

And no, just because I live near Salem State, in the next city... I neither attended that school, nor am a Wiccan. So I think that perhaps I am not the only one to jump to incorrect conclusions.

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pidaua
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posted November 11, 2002 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Carlo,

I see some of your Virgo temper coming out...but it is justified. I knew what you meant about the unprotected sex thing. I think that most of us that have had the chance to get to know about you could understand the meaning of what you said and that you weren't speaking of sex with hundreds of different partners, but sex hundreds of times with your committed partners, i.e. women you were married too.

And no, I don't think that one needs to use protection when having sex with the person you have given your life to either in a full committed relationship or marriage union.

Anyway, Carlo, you handsome hand model you.... I had a quick question. The Sun-Moon trine plus a few degrees, would it maybe apply to the trine before the moon passes over the sun instead of the latter? The only reason I am asking is because, as life would have it, I am just ending...."that time"... and the moon will be hitting late Pisces in a few days, but when the moon was in Gemini and the Sun in Libra that would have been my fertile time according to other methods.

Then again it makes sense the other way too. Please point me in the right direction.

BTW, I'll see about finding a nice Virgo......the one that I was friends with went a bit Psycho on me. I tried to tell him, I was currently involved and that I wasn't interested in anything other than friendship. He just flipped, even though I had been upfront with him all along. For some reason, he just never struck me as a Virgo, even though he has a ton of Virgo in his chart: Sun, Ascendent, Pluto, Mercury, Venus and Uranus. All crowding his 12 and first house. He also has a Leo mars: Singleton. In truth, he frightened me. What's your take on it?


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Carlo
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posted November 11, 2002 04:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh okay then, sir. I apologize for getting reared up and assuming you were female. I guess I let the transiting Aquarius Moon get the best of me this morning, it ignited my Moon-Mars opposition, and I got medieval. I even shocked myself, actually! So how do you supplement your practice with medical astrology, anything in particular, like dispensing advice to pts? Did Linda give you any insights on medical astrology? Just curious, I am sure the others are too...

I will get back to you Shawnee, hopefully in the next couple days, this is a tricky week for me, really busy, so hopefully tomorrow morning

Again, apology tendered, sir.

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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posted November 11, 2002 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No problem Carlo!!! I hope everything is going well!!

Kisses and Take Care!

Shawnee

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Donna
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posted November 11, 2002 05:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aselzion, Welcome!!

Carlo, I just want to say, that when I first read your post about unprotected sex, I guess I read it too fast, because I got the same idea, but re reading it slower, I realized what you were saying, it just took me awhile. Sometimes when I come in for a quick peek, I simply read too fast.

Anyway, I'm glad that is all straigtened out and I want to add that I have helped scores of ladies conceive using astrobiology, including gender. I know it shouldn't, but it never ceases to amaze me!!

Donna

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posted November 11, 2002 06:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can I butt in and ask about my moon-sun arc? I think I was born during a waxing gibbeous moon (not sure thought)...

b. Feb. 10, 1979 @12:03 p.m. New Rochelle, NY, USA

And Carlo-I saw that picture of you and your cat! One of my cats was sleeping like that on me today (and boy is she heavy, but it's adorable nonetheless).

Thank you!

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posted November 12, 2002 05:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donna.. Thanks again for the greetings.

Carlo... in terms of medical astrology, I do not offer advice to patients unless they ask for it... free will and all that, plus I try to keep my astrological life separate from my medical one.. even tho I do not always agree with western thinking, sometimes one has to do the best with what's available.

Linda herself, in her disdain for "allopathic or traditional medicine", sort of created the circumstances that contributed to her death by ignoring some complications of her diabetes. I'm all for following a wholistic/alternative modality, but there are some things that are truly best handled through surgical means.

In the Apocrypha; texts purged from what we have come to know as the Bible, particularly Ecclisiasticus: Or the Widom of Jeshua, The son of Sirach (not to be confused with Ecclesiastes) we see an admonition from Sirach the wise:

"Show the physician due honor in view of your need for him. For the Lord has created him; Healing comes from the Most High.. the skill of the physician exalts Him... the Lord has cretaed medicines out of the Earth, and a sensible man will not refuse them... And He has given men knowledge, So that He might be glorified for His Wonderful works, with them He cures and takes away pain....
...And leave room for the physician for the Lord has created him...There is a time when your welfare depends upon them, For they too will pray the Lord To guide them to bringing relief And effecting a cure and restoration to health."

In respect to tidbits from Linda regarding Medical Astrology; she put much of it in Star Signs and also stated that much of what she learned, she got from Dr. William Davidson's: Series of Eight Special Lectures on Medical Astrology and Health, edited by Vivia Jayne and published by the Astrological Bureau.

These lectures are a gold mine of tidbits on medical astrology and homeopathy by a practicing Homeopathic Physician and Astrologer. I'm not sure if they are still available, but I'm planning to see about republishing them myself if they are not... if the legalities can be worked out. I'd be most happy to see these lectures made available to the friends and fans of Linda.

I know for sure that Linda always used the Equal House System when erecting a chart, and would never offer any advice without first rectifying the chart and making sure it "fit" and was verifiable by events and physical appearance.

If there are any specific questions, I can try to pass on what I gleaned from Linda and these Lectures by Dr. Davidson, in addition to what I have gained from my own experience in the medical/astrological world.

Hope this helps.

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