posted November 17, 2002 01:40 AM              

If the planet is receiving no aspects from another planet, it would be considered unaspected. An Angle is a calculated mathematical point which does not emit physcial energy and would not influence the unaspected planet greatly. The planet on the angle would appear more prominent with it's characteristics but this is due to it's angularity rather than the flow of energy between planets.

posted November 17, 2002 01:59 AM              

how have you been? still under rage?

I happen to have a saved info on unaspected Saturn, let me go find it and post it, see if it applies to you.
For what I know - only major aspects are counted when lookin at un/aspected planets

Unaspected Saturn

When austere Saturn is unaspected, the native will experience a strong
urge to push self-control to the limit and impose a life of austerity
of self (and others, too)....
But the mask of inflexibility can slip at times to reveal unpredictable
moods, after which he or she has the task of getting
everything back under control. There is a great need for structure.
Admittedly, this need may not be any more urgent than it is in some
cases when Saturn is well aspected, but it will be expressed in a more
exaggerated way.
An unaspected Saturn certainly does have the property of giving
structure to things, but the sense of responsibility is so strongly
developed that it becomes distorted.
There is a tendency to act very responsibly in small matters but to
pass over the really impotant ones quite irresponsibly.

Anxiety may lead to overcompensations.
Saturn's limiting and localising character - which does have it's
positive side - can, when aided by the anxiety, deter the native from
seizing opportunities because he or she gloomily underrates natural
talents, and time may be wasted on trifles.
The individual with an unaspected Saturn may seem cold, hard and
unapproachable.
He is usually inscrutable as well. Suppose the native has a problem and
someone gives advice; he listens to it eagerly, appears grateful, and
may even act on it, but will be more inclined to do himself a
disservice by flinging it to the winds.
You may feel that this person cannot be understood or pinned down.
You are not alone in this - the native often feels the same about
himself.

posted November 17, 2002 02:47 AM              

Yes, minor aspects don't count. They don't give enough energy to count.

Saturn unaspected actually operates better, it will bestow trustworthiness, and make you reliable and honorable. Being conjunct the MC, I would say you probably work best alone and with serious integrity.

posted November 17, 2002 10:45 AM              

'Urge to push self-control to the limits'.....that's definitely not me.
'Act responsible in small matters while passing up important ones'......that rings a bell.
'flinging advice to the winds'....from time to time.
'cannot be understood or pinned down'.....that is me although I do understand myself.

posted November 17, 2002 01:51 PM            

What orb would you allow in order to treat a planet as unaspected?
According to Karen Hamker-Zondag in her book Aspects and Personality she allows the following....
Conjunction 6-8 orb
Sextile 4-6
Square 6-8
Trine 6-8
Opposition 6-8

posted November 17, 2002 03:24 PM              

Before Chiron was used in charts, Mercury was unaspected in mine, and I think I'm right in saying it was a singleton because it was the only planet in an air sign (Aquarius). Now it is conjunct chiron with an orb of 1 degree. Chiron's nearest aspect is an orb of 6 degrees sextiling Saturn and an orb of 8 degrees squaring Neptune. How much of a difference does this make to Mercury and how will the affects of it have changed my thinking?

posted November 17, 2002 03:54 PM              

Stella, just order to Bissie the Virgin and you shell receive..unaspected Sun interpretaion, that`s it
be back in a few but I am sure you will deny what the interpetaion says..

Alena,
you HAVE to tell me more about unaspected Mercury article you`ve read. I am very interested to read it. give it to me, baby

posted November 17, 2002 04:11 PM              

Thanks Alena, hmmm... I'm not a big collector of pens but I do have my favorites now that I've thought about it. I do like emailing and receiving emails though, much better than writing letters and faster.

posted November 17, 2002 05:29 PM              

Unaspected Sun

An unaspected Sun is an indication that the individual will need to find a completely new way of using his or her ego to find something outside the family dynamic to pursue. There is a maverick energy with unaspected planets, and it often indicates that a 'new soul' has come into the family to break professional, social hierarchies. The unaspected Sun person will find it exceptionally difficult to conform to the family, but will attempt to do so until a turning point occurs, allowing them to set off in their own direction. Often their father has not been traditionally paternal, has been a 'friend' or completely absent by circumstances or choice. There is usually a very strong longing for a father, or father figure, but because there is no aspect from the Sun to another planet, there is no clear image of the father in the psyche. Hence, the person has to become their own father, or to become their own authority. All the words that stem from the Latin auctor - author, authority, authenticity, and all derivatives are especially significant for unaspected solar people. They must find inner validation rather than seeking it from without. This often means long periods of wandering, looking, seeking and searching for purpose and direction in life.

how far or close is that ?

posted November 17, 2002 05:35 PM            

Unaspected Mercury can produce a very quick-thinking person; a person who, once he starts talking, inundates everyone with a veritable torrent of speech. However, the same individual can dry up completely when others want to listen or when something really needs to be said. On such occasions he or she is at a loss for words, being unable to deploy the Mercurial talents to order. We should also note that unaspected planets tend to display their overcompensating side more often than their non-manifestin side.

So an overall summary.....
Unaspected planets make their presence felt in no uncertain terms. It would be foolish to belittle them just because they have no ties with other planets. They are definately not weak and certainly not bad - far from it. Unaspected planets are found in the charts of very gifted individuals, and often these planets will indicate the direction of their life.

Sue

posted November 17, 2002 06:29 PM            

I think Bissie's post is from Karen's book - we had lots of discussions about this about a year ago
Sue

posted November 17, 2002 06:37 PM              

everything is aspected in my chart.
can you tell

posted November 17, 2002 10:53 PM              

So, we go off in search of the subject matter of that planet. Some domains that are appropriate to that planet even hold a sort of magical or mysterious kind of attraction. Once I met a boy with an unaspected Mercury who, at a very early age, was fascinated by pencils and pens (objects appropriate to Mercury). Whenever his parents couldn't find any, all they had to do was go to his room and that's where they would find just about all the writing utensils they had in the house! He simply couldn't keep his hands off them. No matter what his parents did -- from asking in a friendly way to leave the pens where they belonged, to giving him a big set of his own pens, to punishing him -- nothing worked. Each pen had its own fascination. Mercury can, of course, also entail lots of other things, so a fascination can also lie in other Mercury domains. For this boy, it was pens.

Precisely because of this fascination and our "being in search of," we will be preoccupied with an unaspected planet, but won't ourselves be aware of it at all. The problem is, namely, that there are no other planets that provide any contact with this isolated planet, so that at first we don't see all the things we do with it. We simply don't recognize it, and aren't able to place it, like the boy with his pens. He simply didn't understand that he had a few too many of them in his room. It's as if everything we do with that planet somehow or other isn't to be fathomed, knows no moderation, or isn't to be controlled.