posted November 22, 2002 03:59 PM              

You helped me a few days ago with a question on Chiron.

If you have time please, could you look at these charts for me please and give me an interpretation of the Chiron Aspects, both individually and as a Synastry.

Me - 3.45pm 26th Feb 1954, Bolton, England
Him - 3.55pm 27th Nov. 1964, Manchester, England

Relationship been going on for 10 months.

Hoping you can help.

Love Venus

posted November 22, 2002 05:12 PM              

I will be glad to take a look. I will get back later.

posted November 23, 2002 01:27 PM              

His Chiron is conjunct your Venus. This linkage is MAGIcal. This is the
linkage that COMBINES DESTINIES and it almost has a mystical power
and seems to aid the linked persons in anything that they do together so
long as they are in love. In terms of romantic attraction, this is the most
powerful linkage that you can have with anyone. This is called
ROMANCE LINKAGE. CINDERELLA LINKAGE. MAGICAL LINKAGE

His Chiron is square your Jupiter and your Moon. The Jupiter aspect can result in minor squabbles, as it is a minor clash. With the Moon, there may be times when you both feel there is something wrong, but quite can't put your finger on it as to exactly why.

In your chart, Chiron is squaring Neptune and inconjunct Pluto.
Essentially, the Chiron/Neptune aspect will give you control of your dreams, such as long term financial security, marrying your Prince Charming. The Chiron/Pluto aspect will give you power and vision to succeed.

In his chart, Chiron is opposing Uranus and Pluto. This gives him a powerful charisma, the ability to succeed if he directs himself toward his goals with anything to do with the public, mass media. Anything in big business.

posted November 23, 2002 06:33 PM              

Since you asked so sweetly, here is what I came up with.

His Chiron conjunct your Venus is a ROMANCE LINKAGE. CINDERELLA LINKAGE. MAGICAL LINKAGE. In terms of romantic attraction, this is the most powerful linkage that you can have with anyone. This is the linkage that COMBINES DESTINIES and it almost has a mystical power and seems to aid the linked persons in anything that they do together so long as they are in love.

His Chiron is trine your Mars and this is a SEXUAL ROMANCE LINKAGE. This is both a Sexual Linkage and a Romance Linkage. The overall attraction that this linkage creates is actually stronger than any Sexual Linkage because this linkage creates romantic attachment that the other Sexual Linkages do not.

His Pluto is opposing your Chiron and this is considered a CHIRON CLASH. This means the relationship has a very intoxicating chemistry at the beginning but it can deteriorate due to the fact that he could disrupt your life at times.

His Chiron is also parallel your Venus. This is the same as his Chiron conjumct your Venus and the interpretation is the same.

The Magi only use a 3 degree orb for longitude and a 1.2 degree orb for declinations. They also feel the conjunction, trine are enhancements, the square and oppostion are turbulent. The declinations ,the parallel and contraparallel, are important.

In your chart, Chiron is parallel your Venus and Moon. To your Venus it indicates strong charismatic beauty, love of family, marriage, interest in the all metaphysical, the need to always be in a love relationship, a possibility of falling in love easily. To your Moon, it indicates a strong desire for marriage and children, someone who is highly intuitive and resourceful. A feeling of unfulfillment without a love interest.

In his chart Chiron is squaring his Venus, trining his Mars. To his Venus, it is similar in interpretation, meaning a love of family life, a career to make money, strong charisma. To his Mars, this generates pure energy, possibly excelling in sports, a bit of agressiveness at times.

posted November 24, 2002 07:47 AM              

Thanks for taking the time. It is so very right. The only problem is before I met this man I didn't ever want to be in a committed relationship again. And the only thing that stops me here with him is the age difference,

So we remain very close friends.

posted November 24, 2002 11:48 AM              

Yes, the Magi Society did a lot of research and observation on Chiron and studied it's effects. They make no statement they can't back up. You would be surprised on their take on Juno!!! I can't wait for their next book to be published, which won't be until the stars are just right.

Hi Venus,

You would be surprised at the amount of older gals with younger guys. Age is less important than love in the long run. At least, that is how I see it. I believe some souls have to wait for the right time to be born, so they can be together.

posted November 24, 2002 12:26 PM              

Thanks,

Juno represents the Mistress, not marriage!!!
They did long researches on charts and everyone that had Juno prominent in the combined charts did not get married or were married and had a mistress or were the mistress. Which made me re-look at the myth of Juno. Interesting, as she had a cheating husband!!

Which takes me to Chiron. After reading and re-reading the stories of Chiron, I have come to the conclusion that though he may have been a healer and wounded, that is not what he represents. He represents love in all the ways that are important. Look at his story. He was a most kind and loving and gentle soul. He cared and helped and taught with love. Everything about him is about love. His injury was just a by-line. But again, what is more healing than love?

posted November 24, 2002 12:36 PM              

Donna, you were talking about Chiron parallel Alena's Venus and her Moon. Now I have two questions. How about Chiron Trine Venus in one's natal chart and does parallel mean 'in the same sign but a wider orb'? Strange I never read about Parallel in one of my books. Oooh, would I like to know this.
I would so appreciate it Donna if you want to answer these questions. Thanx a bunch!

posted November 24, 2002 12:58 PM              

According to The Magi Society, the trine and the conjunction are enhancements and they indicate similar interpretations. So, the trine of Chiron and Venus in one's chart means love of family, charismatic beauty, desire for marriage, children, strong family orientation, ability to make money, being in love is important. It is considered a Super Aspect in one's chart.

Parallel and contra-parallel are declinations. They are the measurement of the planets in the sky and are measured against the Celestial Equator. Declinations are measured vertically. Longitudes are the horizontal measurement. Parallel are two planets on the same side of the C.Equator and contra-parallel are two planets one north and one south of the C.Equator. The degrees have to be within a 1.2 degree orb. In other words, for example, a parallel of Venus and Jupiter would be Venus North 17 and Jupiter North 17 degrees parallel. A contra-parallel would be Venus South 17 and Jupiter North 17 degrees contra-parallel.

Well, have I confused you yet?

posted November 24, 2002 01:53 PM              

Donna, sweety thank U! So does this mean the north side in a chart for instance:
Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer. And then in the same degree the planet is parallel to the other? So Cancer 17 and Gemini 17?
Hahahaha, I am blond! Does make sense though, but everything does when you look at it from every single side.

posted November 24, 2002 04:14 PM              

When you say Cancer 17 and Gemini 17 that indicated the longitude coordinates which is measured horizontal.

When you say Moon 17 and Mercury 17 that indicates the declinations as measured vertically along the Celestial Equator. Not the same as a planet in a sign, but is merely the planets position in the sky related to the Celestial Equator.

I think Greg teaches this much better than I can in his course in the Free Astrology Course forum. Have you signed up? He is amazing and has a better grip on the instructional part than I ever could.

My Mercury is in Leo, I usually tell it like I see it, but not always in a very good way to understand.

Donna

posted November 24, 2002 04:59 PM              

I did sign up for the course and go there occasionally. I don't know if this is something for the beginning though. But sure I am going to understand it now. Once I want to know something I gotta know it! But I think that I am sometimes more busy with the entertaining part than the lesson.

Shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame on me! horizontal, I do know what that means, and it sure isn't vertical. Gemini and Cancer.... Oooow!