posted January 17, 2003 10:59 AM              

although it takes alot of right things to get me with someone when I get stuck, I stick to it

So, proved ya wrong right there, girl! hehehe

My mars is in 17 Libra
My venus is 23 Cappy (ARGH!)

posted January 17, 2003 11:20 AM              

You guys make me laugh-I love it!

Proxy, it is frustrating! I read somewhere that people with Neptune in te 7th House (me me me) have to be careful of being oblivious to their spouse cheating. THAT's the truth!

And wEvil...I also have Venus in Cappy (argh doesn't even begin to explain it!!) and Mars in Aquarius. Plus other fxed stuff...Aquarius Sun, Merc., Mars, Leo Moon, Uranus in Scorp.

posted January 17, 2003 11:49 AM              

I think it has soemthing to do with the rose-colored glasse placement. There's a thread or two on it somewhere on this board. I'll search for it once I get back from eating pancakes at IHOP Mmm...morning after munchie food..

As far as Venus in Cappy...it's hard to open up to people, and Aphrodite gave me some really amazing interpretations of my chart, one of which is that my unaspected Venus in Cappy often gives an ice-queen/cold sort of
demeanor in love-the kind of person who puts up walls, etc.

posted January 17, 2003 12:06 PM              

Nawp, as far as I know we're not really - barring, of course, other chart factors. We do, however, fall in love (which is prolly a bit different than being "relationship minded")...and according to many, fall out of love just as quickly. LG likes to use Liz Taylor as an example (how many times has she been married?), and in the Libra-Pisces chapter of "Love Signs" writes, "...marriage is usually something the typical Fish view as a dangerous, glittering hook to stifle freedom, and either successfully avoid it - or, if not, then manage to slip in and out of the marital net each time they're hooked. Many Pisceans are either unmarried meditative loners (by choice, because both the girl and the boy Fish are alluring to the opposite sex) or instead chalk up an amazing number of multiple ventures in matrimonial waters." And I can say that I was never one of those girls that imagined my wedding; and once I started to play the with the idea of getting married, thoughts of how restrictive that arrangement would prove on my plans immediately popped-up.

It's my impression that we get bored fast if things don't begin to measure up to what's going on in our heads - my Mom (a 9th H. Pisces w/ a 5th H. Sag Moon & 8th Aqua Venus/Merc - now there's a combo) is a prime example of this, but her Cancer Asc (and I think there's some other placements there...hm, a stationary 1st House Jupiter in Cancer...oh, and a 11th House Taurean Mars) seem to keep her behavior in check. My step-Mom (another Pisces/Saggie Moon) is faithful, but seems a little moodie and uber-vulnerable in relationships; I don't know the rest of her chart off hand.

My Pop, on the other hand, isn't faithful at all...but is very worried that the other person be so...(and, since you're looking at placements, here're his: 1st House Sun in Libra, 11th H. Moon in Cancer, Asc in Virgo, 2nd H. Mercury in Libra, 12th House Venus and Mars in Virgo - and, oh my, everything direct...handn't looked at his chart in a while).

If I had to guess, my Aquarian Moon (and maybe my Chiron conjunct my Venus?...Neptune Sq. Sun?...) interacting w/ my Pisces head-in-the-cloud-ness contribute to my being oblivious to, well, just about everything, but especially game-of-love type stuff. The multitude fixed in my chart probably're what make me so derned fixed once I actually get whacked upside the head enough to fall. I really dislike falling in love, though - I think that my Scorp Asc (and, again, maybe that Chiron) resents being that vulnerable.

posted January 17, 2003 12:43 PM              

She already had several relationships, she doesn't get to like anybody and doesn't get to be faithful .
As this situation is already being out of control, I asked her to make a reflection on the reasons that are taking her to act like this . Ok, she didn't want to have divorced, her ex husband was unfaithful, etc... the emotional factors exist, but we cannot forget what the astrologers told her...

She has her Venus in Scorpio in the MC
Mars retrograde in Leo in the 7th house

What do you guys think ?

posted January 17, 2003 01:23 PM              

What an interesting topic. I admit that having a Gem Sun, I have been known to be very flirtatious with the opposite sex, without even meaning to be sometimes. However, though it may take me a while to commit once I do, I stay committed. My Venus is in the fixed sign Taurus, and when I really love someone, I'm true blue all the way. If anything, my problems with infidelity have been from others being unfaithful to me. Venus in Taurus can be possessive, and my Scorp Moon adds the tendency to be somewhat suspicious. Yet how can I be otherwise when my suspicions wind up being correct? Also, MY Neptune is in the 7th house too. I wouldn't so much say I've been oblivious to a partner's infidelity (not with a Scorp Moon, lol)...but once I am committed I do put the other person on a pedestal, so to speak...not seeing them realistically, thus the rose-colored glasses syndrome. In my case too having Pisces Rising, Neptune is my chart ruler so despite any accurate Scorpio Moon perceptions I may have, there has been much deception surrounding my relationships. Needless to say, trust is quite an issue for me. In keeping with this combined Scorp Moon/Neptune in 7th influence, I think of that quote that goes something like, "Fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me"!

posted January 17, 2003 01:25 PM              

I've been actually thinking about "one-night stand" aspects this morning (Moon on 8th house cusp, go figure ).

posted January 17, 2003 01:39 PM            

I am faithful in most situations, unless the line is not clearly drawn. IF I am in a committed relationship I will be totally faithful and should I want to stray, I will break things off first.

If I am just seeing someone, that frees me up to go out with others, but I am not prone to having more than one sexual relationship going at a time. It just gets too messy and I have a hard time concentrating on more than one relationship (maybe the Mars in Pisces gets me too involved).

Even when I am just dating, I can only tolerate juggling a couple of guys at a time and I like for them to know straight out what I am doing. At times I feel like it demands just too much of me and then I want to sever all the ties.....

Maybe I am just fickle!!!

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"Lahn dádzaayú nahikai leh ni' nyelíí k'ehge," Goyathlay (Geronimo)

posted January 17, 2003 02:04 PM              

Oddly, I know a lot of Libra Suns who are NOT faithful (Proxy, you just reminded me of that). In fact, I spent some quality time with one last night. In fact, he may very well have a Virgo rising too (still waiting for the exact time of birth).

Carlo,

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Venus in Cap = Venus in a business suit.

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My first instinct is to become defensive and say No way, Jose! But, alas, you are right. Things need to be structured and handled rationally and logically (with Aquarian logic, that is!), and no one else can ever abide by those rules and thus...a lonely placement. I just see everyone else being comfortably affectionate...not me though. I have no idea, not even the first beginner clue as to how they do it. Although, last night with a bit of alcohol in my system (quite a bit), I actually *gasp* gave into those awful public displays of affection. lol but i'll save that for Lost Leo's great thread on the influences of alcohol....

Proxy-a guy I knew (Cancer Sun/Aqua Moon/Scorp. Rising) was the same way. Although a Cancer deep down, he liked the ideal of a family, but he could never remain faithful to anyone and hated the idea of feeling confined! It's almost like he would stray just to prove to himself that he wasn't confined! I guess I always had Pisces pictured differently. I knew one girl, way back in high school who was definitely the built-her-castles-in-the-sky kind of Pisces, and one guy who fell in love quite easily. In fact, that girl loved sappy stuff-huge infactuation with Bryan Adams (hey, to each his own) But I also knew one that just couldn't be read. If I didn't know better, I'd mistake him for an Aquarius or Gemini. So I never

I dated an Aquarian once who was NOTORIOUS for cheating. And we were together for a year...talk about Neptune in the 7th! Unfortunately, I don't know his Asc., but his Moon/Merc. were in Cappy, Venus (quite possibly conjunct Neptune) in Sag, Mars/Sun in Aquarius. I think cheating was almost as natural to him as breathing. LOL

posted January 17, 2003 03:18 PM              

I just want to add...my friends always complain that I never introduce them to the guys I date. I've also been dubbed an "ice queen" and a "prude" (the prude part was when I was very young and scared of everything).

What happens to a Venus in Capricorn person who tries to give an aura of competence but really doesn't believe it deep down?

posted January 17, 2003 03:55 PM              

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Venus in Capricorn people will try to win your heart by displaying self-control, presence of mind, and responsible behavior. These lovers want you to know they are goal-oriented, witty, savvy, and controlled. Nobody can get the best of them. They want you to see just how competent they are. They like some measure of predictability in their relationships as they are cautious in love.

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Im anything if competent - but then again thats probably other aspects of my chart. Im pretty cautious though - my first time loving someone hurt - alot.

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Venus in Capricorn men and women project an aura of competency and their loner-like behavior can be attractive, in a cool way. They don't go gaa-gaa over love, or at least they don't express as much. Their lovers may complain that Venus in Capricorns are a little too practical and deliberate.

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My ex commented i was quite inclined to deliberate over relationship things

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Certainly, they can come across as lacking in warmth and spontaneity. Truth is, they can be rather romantic souls who yearn for a partner to share their lives with.

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Oh yes.

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Others' image of their relationship matters to them. They are conservative and willing to commit. Venus in Capricorn people are attracted to serious, goal-oriented lovers. They are a little shy in matters of the heart, but they don't want you to know it. If you like knowing where your relationship is headed, you'll be mighty pleased with Venus in Capricorn. These people plan ahead in love, and, unlike Venus in Pisces, they will let you know exactly where they (and the relationship) are headed.

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I certainly have a need to know the future with love - unfortunately its probably one of the most unpredictable aspects of life, though.

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Pleasing Venus in Capricorn involves showing them you are practical and realistic. They want to impress you with the things they do. Appreciate their "saving for a rainy day" attitude, and be aware that they want to show you off in a quiet way.

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posted January 17, 2003 04:22 PM              

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posted January 17, 2003 04:22 PM              

Any guesses who this sweet one is? First guess instead of peeking at the properties.

About the topic. Yesterday I sat talking with one of my older colleagues. He is from '50 and he is an Aqau Sun, Venus and Jupiter (conj), Leo Moon and Mars Libra which is trining his Sun, Venus and Jupiter. Anyways he suddenly told me (guess because I was so open to him about luv in general) how sometimes it could turn out to sex with someone and how another time sex isn't necessary but talking or just being or holding is enough. I was like , but you are married?
Him: "Yeah....so???"
Me:" well, ok...just wondering." "But does your wife know this?"
Him:" No, she doesn't! She doesn't have to know everything."
Me:" But if she was to know, do you think she would mind?"
Him:" Yeah, I guess she would very much so!"

Well, the conversation ended in a passionate love making right there, on the desk!

Kidding! YAK!

I was most amazed of the fact he told me something so intimite, just like that. I am sure no one else knows this at school! Shall I tell his wife??? Hehe. I guess he knows I am an open minded person or maybe now he thinks I want him because of the things I told him casually.
Drifting off, sorry. Conclusion....freedom in a relationship, Uranus, Aqua??
Hmmmpff, I don't know. What I do know is that if someone withholds something for me I think he cheats already. I am a very, very demanding person what that is concerned. I NEED HONESTY and openess, I want to know everything about YOU. In a relationship one should be able to talk about anything so as well about wanting to sleep with someone else or having a deep connection with someone else. It is only natural to have feelings for many beautiful souls. It is cheating if someone doesn't tell, but what? Only about sex, where is the limit.
Get me still??