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1scorp
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posted March 01, 2003 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a question which was based off of the post Lost Leo had made. However, there were so many replies I didn't know if mine would be noticed.

Why do Scorpios receive so much hype over our bedroom performance? I'm just a go with it type of person. I honestly don't think I have much on anyone else really.

Also, the whole temper thing?? I don't lose it unless provoked to do so... but who doesn't right?

Just wondering......

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proxieme
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posted March 02, 2003 04:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never slept with a Scorp, so I couldn't say...perhaps ya'll are, true to legend and general pattern, more focused on the person, the feeling, and the act itself while it's happening than, say, the archetypal Gemini (...what about my interview tomorrow...), Virgo (...oh, gods - these sheets are filthy...and this person...>sniff< this person's hair smells like smoke...), or Leo (...what about...hm...I can see myself in the mirror, and I am H-O-T...) - in that the general stereotype for a Scorp seems to involve at least the ability to display intense single-mindedness and dedication to the task at hand, and that can be pert dern sexy when someone's used to distracted, rushed, or nearly disinterested partners.

As for the temper thing...yeah, everyone looses their temper, but I think it has to do with how Scorps loose it. Besides the fabled intensity of their reactions, there's the perception by others around a Scorpio that it "came out of nowhere" since ya'll tend to keep a tight reign on the outward expression of emotion; since, after all, if someone knows where you stand, they can pull the rug out from under you. And - again, stereotypically - the last thing a Scorp wants is to unexpectedly find someone with an iota of power over them.

That's just my two cents, and I'm by no means an expert.

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Shieldrocks
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posted March 02, 2003 10:35 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's go back to the beggining about the hype about Scorpios in the bedroom. First of all Scorpio rules the sexual organs (as Aries rules the head, Taurus rules the throat etc..) so there's your first clue. Having been involved with two scorps myself, I would have to say people get sexuality confussed with intensity. When Scorpios want something with all of their heart (this can mean anything from a chocolate donut to a person) they're very insense about how they get it. There's usually no 1/2 way point with these people. It's like the smell of Gas in regards to issues with these people: You either love it or hate it. Because of that lack of "Gray area" they can be misunderstood.
In regards to the explosive temper...Scorps do tend to keep their emotions to themselves until they can trust someone...which may take a while..so when it does come out it's not only built up but "intense".
Then there's the eyes.....You scorps have us all beat in this department. Bedroom eyes? Yea you've got us here.

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1scorp
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posted March 02, 2003 11:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank-you for the comments as I really see what proxi was saying as for the "task at hand" statement. I am that way exactly and guess I just now realized it.

I was married to a gemini and could always tell if the mind wasn't on exactly what was going on. It really aggravated me at times!

The power issue...... "if" I do allow that in that particular situation then if it tries to leave outside of that (i.e. in the everyday relationship) I sort of rebel against it going on again. As I don't want them to think they have any control over me. It makes me feel dependant and weak. So yes, I see that.

The temper .... yeah, I really don't want to hurt anyone with my opinions to be honest. So I just lay back until it gets to where I feel like I'm a doormat and then I just confront them.

Shieldrocks: Know exactly what you mean about wanting things with intensity. I do go after everything that I sat my mind to.. and I won't allow anyone or anything to get in the way and I have patience for it all. I can honestly wait years!

The eyes... now that, blows me away.. as I feel that others can read me by looking in my eyes... and I have been commented on a few times as to the way I look at someone..

Sorry this reply took so long.... but thank you for your time.

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Lost Leo
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posted March 03, 2003 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorp dudes: obsessed with sex. To them everything relates to sex, and they ARE NOT happy in this world unless they're having some(in my experience w/ my 2 bestfriends)

Scorp women: been involved with a couple...
I think what I said in the "Best Lover" thread explains it: "so womanly, so open, so UNINHIBITED"
If a man is lucky enough to have a Lady Eagle let him take her to bed, it will be the deepest experience he'll ever have on many different levels(in my opinion)

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted March 03, 2003 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shield,
Being a Scorpio..I could not have said it better ! You just described "me" perfectly.
Have a great day

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Love & Light,
Melissa

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted March 03, 2003 05:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL,
All I have to say about that is...
:fireworks:
LMAO !

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Love & Light,
Melissa

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1scorp
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posted March 03, 2003 08:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well thanks for the comments. I haven't ever experienced another scorpio... so was just wondering.

Though Leo and Shield has, and thanks for your insight.

Leo: I do know a scorpio guy who is the same way !!... Hey, I just thought it was a guy thing?! Though I do admit... my mind travels at times.... again though, I thought that was a deal everyone as well??

Someone please tell me it is !! (I'm not really as distressed as that appears)

Again, thanks to all for posting...

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Lost Leo
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posted March 03, 2003 09:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In all honesty, I would say that every person, woman or man, links just about everything to sex.

It's just that some verbalize it more than others(traditionally only men were allowed to)

Decades of repression from society have made sexuality taboo, shameful, and made people uncomfortable with it.

From what I've learned in my Psychology of Sexual Behavior classes, I think it's very safe to say women are just as much horny as men. It's just they are taught from birth to repress that. Come on out ladies!

I notice a huge difference in women between generations... pre-generation X women have been socialized in an outdated and repressed role, and based on studies I've read in my Sexual Behavior class 80% feel their sex life isn't what they'd imagine it to be.

While Generation X, Y, and soon enough the hyper-sexual generation Z (transiting Pluto) are very comfortable with expressing their sexuality. Lots are straight spitting in the face of traditional gender barriers when it comes to sex.

Old people see it as being "loose" but in all honesty men & women are very similar creatures, it's only our socialization that forces us into different roles. And I've noticed a lot of girls freeing themselves & following instinctual drives rather than playing a part in some stupid Donna Reed fantasy life that was forced upon them.

In contemporary times, as our generations lose faith in the man-made institutions of religion: Catholicism, Christianity, Judaism, and other "old" religions, the popularity and exporation of one's own spirituality, without some minister telling you what it is, has soared.

In my experience young adults that attend regular services at a church or synagogue are in the extreme minority.

Self-discovery of one's own spirituality has attracted a HUGE following.

And I've noticed that within this following sexuality is considered and valued to be AS IMPORTANT as spirituality to explore, define, and experiment with...

sorry, that was off-topic & WAY too long, my pisces moon has me dreamin on deep thoughts again, my bad. But if anyone would like to respond, feel free

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1scorp
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posted March 03, 2003 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow.... that was impressive Leo ! My thoughts exactly! Who says women can't "bring up" subjects?!.. I say who cares! I would've never made it in the previous generations....

That was a great reply... depth.. gotta love it! Or is that the pisces moon talking?! Whatever it was, I enjoyed it.

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Shieldrocks
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posted March 03, 2003 10:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL,

Mucho Kuddos to you on this one!! I think women can be as sexually aggressive as well as men can be quiet and sensitive. To hear me speak sometimes, you'de assume I'm a guy, but I'm a chick with way too many masculine signs in my chart :smile:
In a bar I always scope out who I want to "have". I used to always hang out with guys growing up...even in the work force later on.

Lost Leo...you're a guy right? I know it's a personal question but I figure since I know your chart I can atleast know your sex(haha)

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1scorp
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posted March 03, 2003 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I don't know.. but I'm glad to see that some can be a little open ... I won't tell.. I swear!.. (wink)

Though I understand that some are not comfortable with even a mild mannered discussion that relates to sex. Which you got to look at and respect on their part. However, we're NOT ALL like that !

I just think it's a natural thing... and have always been interested on how other's view it. Whether that be signs, etc.

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Lost Leo
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posted March 04, 2003 12:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm a guy.

These ideas are not all my own though, credit is attributed to my wonderful feminazi professor here at the University who's Sexual behavior class I had to take twice.

And to my last woman, who was a lovely Lady Eagle, because as I took the class, I bounced everything I heard off her and picked her brain to pieces to understand you ladies. If it wasn't for her great comfort level speaking of sex and profound understand of sexual relations I wouldn't have learned a bit.

Funny how Scorps have such darn problems expressing themselves when it comes to feelings/emotions, but when it comes to sex... they just put it all out there, lol

One day I'll have to post the stats on women & their orgasms... but I'm afraid I might do some serious damage to almost all the male egos on the site... lol, girls you know what I mean

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted March 04, 2003 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL,
I for one am glad to hear that a fellow Lady Eagle taught you a thing or two
Too many men/boys these days dont take the time to learn sh*it! Well, because they know it all already...LOL Chalk it up to, too many bong hits in front of MTV !!

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Love & Light,
Melissa

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1scorp
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posted March 04, 2003 09:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Post all you want... I have came to realize that if someone is comfortable with themselves they will have no reason to feel their egos are blasted or to feel threatened by anyone... I'm regarding this subject manner only remind you!

If we get talked about??..... So what! They'll be talking about someone else tomorrow!!.....

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posted March 05, 2003 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oscar Wilde once said......
"There's only one thing worse than being talked about....and that's not being talked about"
Sue

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Lost Leo
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posted March 05, 2003 02:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SCM, "Bong hits in front of MTV" LOL so true

Alright, I'll post the results from the research studies we covered in class, prepare to be shocked men! I first must check my texts, want to make sure it's accurate!

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1scorp
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posted March 06, 2003 05:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Uhm, Leo..... we're waiting ... you've already talked it up so big..... now back it up.

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted March 06, 2003 08:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL-Yep Yep ! You know he type!! They are also the ones that tell you how they are going to "teach" you a thing or two
Most often, it is the same type that have not a clue about passion or sexuality!
Some umm they are gonna teach what?
LOL
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Love & Light,
Melissa

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Aphrodite
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posted March 07, 2003 02:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, I am curious as to what the hype is all about too 1scorp . . .

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Lost Leo
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posted March 09, 2003 12:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright it took a bit to organize the texts, my Professor's reader, & my notes; there's an awful lot (I mean it was a whole semester)I'll try to pick out the most important things so here it goes:

Only 20-30% of women have orgasm as a result of vaginal penetration alone (Masters & Johnson, 1976)
(So guys if every woman you've been with says she has with you... without any other stimulation than your pedro, you got another thing coming)

90% of women have faked on orgasm with at least one partner in their life (Tackett, 2000)

75% of women who had ever faked an orgasm had done so up to 50 times, & 10% had faked orgasm innumerable times (more than they can count) (Ellison, 2000)

Main reasons for faking orgasms are:

"avoid disapponting or hurting their partners"

"to get sex over with"

"poor communication or limited knowledge of sexual techniques"

"a need for partner approval"

"an attempt to hide a deteriorating relationship"
(Ellison, 2000; Lauerson & Graves, 1984)

Most important part I think:
80% of women aren't having orgasm thru intercourse

90% do not have one the 1st time they sleep with a man, which drops a little after more time being with (teaching) a man (so guys stop fooling yourselves)

80% of women can easily reach orgasm thru their own self-stimulation of the clitoris

Combine all three and I think the lesson is obvious...

Men, there is a reason for the "love button" and its stimulation should be a necessity for every act of intercourse.

The glands used to form the head of the penis are the same used to form the clitoris, so try to imagine having sex without any stimulation to the head of your penis... that's what women feel w/o clitoral stimulation.

Women, it's up to you to get yourself off sometimes, so if he isn't stimulating your "love button" you should be telling him too, or don't be shy, do it yourself... sh*t most guys would enjoy seeing a woman take charge like that.

BTW - if they're "too rough" with their hands then you're supposed to use a technique called "sensate focus" which essentially is you stimulating yourself with his fingers... that way he better knows the amount a pressure and technique you prefer.

And I'll close with the first & MOST IMPORTANT lesson we learned in class:

Men aren't sex gods, society says every man is supposed to be an all-knowing sex god the second they're born. That's a lot of for us to live up to & a lot of pressure.
(Hence, all the lying)

So women it is ultimately YOUR responsibility to get yourself off.
If you don't tell your man how to, or don't communicate ANYTHING & EVERYTHING you WANT/DO NOT WANT, then your limiting yourself to unsatisfying sex forever.

Come on its the new millenia, shed those Donna Reed gender role restrictions and let yourself be heard! You are woman, let's hear you roar!

And for dudes... my personal opinion is use your hands! Always, everywhere, all the time! They don't always have to be moving, sometimes just holding an area, or applying pressure to a spot, talk to your lady, make sex fun & comfortable enough where she should be comfortable requesting ANYTHING of you and you should oblige, after all we're only tools at their disposal!

I made my last woman swear to me to never lie about orgasms and being a Scorp she's like, "You got it! It may be brutal but if that's what you want, I never will"

The way I figure it, if she lies I'll never know what I'm doing right & won't be able to fine tune my skills into her needs.

And she doesn't have one EVERY time, sometimes it just isn't one of those nights, but that's totally cool with me, sometimes I don't either ya know. Like one of those all-nighters where the focus is just to bond in silent passion, or if you're trying to do it real quick in public , or if she's under the infulence of some drugs or a lot of alcohol, women's sexuality can be really fickle sometimes so I don't expect that every time.

But when she orgasms it's great to know she REALLY did, and we got so good at working together to have one at the same time that we've had some fiercely intense shared spiritual moments of oneness that were well... indescribable

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brunnhilde
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posted March 09, 2003 08:17 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What a subject to wake up to!And I haven't even had my coffee yet!It's great to hear a man talk this way ...but I must admit most men prefer honesty and some 'how-to' instructions because every person is different and not everything works for everyone (thouhg the basics are just that hte basics!)I've been married to an Aquarius Taurus mars for over twenty years and don't know what the charts say about him ....but he is definitely thorough?? and very open to every and all possibilities.And takes instructions without hesitation. I can safely say it's the only side of our relationship that has never been questioned.

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Shieldrocks
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posted March 09, 2003 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LL,

It's Sunday morning!! I just got back from Church to read this???!!
I think a lot more people would be happier hearing your last sermon LL than the one we heard this morning.....

Great job!! I agree with everything you said. I have more to write but I need my cup of coffee first....yawn

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Lost Leo
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posted March 09, 2003 12:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did it come out too sleazy? Sorry I was trying to make it sound as respectable as possible

This class I took was quite graphic & I tried to cut all the language that was a bit too graphic.

Just to give you an example, part of the class requirement was to watch adults films in-class, demonstrating techniques that address everything from boredom, to g-spot/prostate stimulation, to premature ejaculation. Some drawbacks were, when our Professor said we have to view EVERYTHING she meant it. We were even forced to watch homosexual intercourse, which was quite disturbing for us dudes

The class was a night class and always lively. Try to imagine a class with 60+ people (50 of which were women & 10 guys) watching an hour long adult film... the charge in the air was so thick sometimes that I felt we could cut it. I remember one girl saying everytime she left class she felt like running over to her boyfriends to... well you know.

So I apologize if it came out raunchy, it was meant to take the blinders off dudes.

If I'm wrong at some point, or you have comment, please do!

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1scorp
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posted March 09, 2003 04:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Leo: Raunchy?! Not a bit. Thought you handled it with much tact to be honest... and you know I wouldn't lie

If that is what you meant about uninhibited? Than well. I guess than maybe I am someone that likes to show what works and what doesn't. Though I never go about it in a rude authoritive manner.

I think it helps when both partners are equally aware of what "does it" for the other. It's not just the simple "act" that gets it. There is quite a bit of other things that have to be incorporated into the whole experience.

You were right about guys thinking that just intercourse alone is enough! That sort of always puzzled me....... I'm like look... you're not that good ! I never tell them that of course. Though unless they prove me wrong I maybe thinking somewhere along those lines.

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