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moonmaiden
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posted May 13, 2003 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I WAS JUST THINKING YOU KNOW HOW SUN RULES LEO ,MOON RULES CANCER, WELL WHAT ABOUT THE EARTH? DOES OUR VERY OWN PLANET COUNT AS AN ASTROLOGICAL PLANET OF INFLUENCE? SHOULD IT? I MEAN IF VENUS RULES ROMANCE AND LOVE AS WELL AS LIBRA AND TAURUS...WELL TAURUS IS AN "EARTH" sign maybe libra and taurus dont have to share after all...just a thought.Any theories on this?

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posted May 14, 2003 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering that myself just a couple of days ago. Thanks for bringing it up, Moonmaiden.(dig your name)
But since Astrology is all based on where the planets are, using earth as the referrence point, it would be impossible to determine what sign Earth was in at any given time, because we wouldn't know what to use as a referrence point. Get it?
It's like saying something is on the left, but not saying on the left of WHAT.

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posted May 14, 2003 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Tommy-Cat...

Interesting point... BUT:

The Earth is always 180 degrees from the Sun.

So, if you are a 10 degree Aries Sun Sign, you have Earth in 10 degrees of Libra. If you are a 22 degree Aquarius by Sun Sign, you have the Earth in 22 degrees of Leo.

This must be the case, as we can always pinpoint the location of the Sun against the ecliptic... so we must be in the opposite point in order to make the observation.

Make sense?

Peace and Light...
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posted May 14, 2003 01:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, so I don't actually HAVE A CLUE. (had you thinking though)

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posted May 15, 2003 01:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As we are sitting on Earth it doesnt count.
If we were on Mars or Jupiter etc we would include it in our chart readings but what sign does it rule??? Virgo?????

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posted May 15, 2003 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well to answer the question on virgos ruling planet it is currently mercury but as linda states in love signs, virgos true ruler is ,the yet to be discovered planet vulcan.Mercurys true sign is gemini.
As for earth well, whether were living on it or not it still exists within our sphere of astrological influence,moving amongst all other planets ,i think its all just a bit too easy to say ,were living on it so it doesnt count ...it MUST count in some way especially since astrology is a study of science and human behaviour we cannot simply disregard what we do not yet understand as irrelevant,the meer fact that we count the other planets and regard them so highly as a point of influence shows me that actually residing on a planet must have some impact astrologically.i have studied astrology since i was 13 years old and i really believe that one day there will be more knowledge on this question there has to be i just know ,i really feel that theres more to it then we are currently aware of.

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posted May 15, 2003 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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moonmaiden- just to clarify, i know fa about the technical aspect of astrology (i mainly use this forum to try and argue with people) but... planet vulcan??

A planet named vulcan has been discovered (as have many other hundreds of planets orbiting other stars) it is roughly 3 parsecs away from us (ie pretty bloody far) orbitting the star epsilon eridani. do you mean the theory about the tenth planet or companion star -Nemesis- that has been hypothesised about or does astrology have, once again, absolutely nothing to do with real science?

I was just wondering

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posted May 16, 2003 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LINDA STATES MANY TIMES IN LOVE SIGNS THAT THE PLANET VULCAN (WHICH AT THE TIME OF PUBLICATION 1968 WAS YET TO BE DISCOVERED) IS THE TRUE RULER OF THE SIGN OF VIRGO.
AS FOR ASTROLOGY HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE ,IT APPEARS YOU HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO MAIN STREAM SCIENCE,HOW ABOUT STUDYING A BIT MORE ABOUT ASTROLOGY BEFORE COMPLETELY UNDERMINING SOMETHING WHICH HAS BEEN SOUGHT AFTER AND USED BY WISER MEN THEN BOTH YOU AND, I LONG BEFORE OUR TIME.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO WOULDNT IT? WELL I BELIEVE SO.

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posted May 16, 2003 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LINDA STATES MANY TIMES IN LOVE SIGNS THAT THE PLANET VULCAN (WHICH AT THE TIME OF PUBLICATION 1968 WAS YET TO BE DISCOVERED) IS THE TRUE RULER OF THE SIGN OF VIRGO.
AS FOR ASTROLOGY HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE ,IT APPEARS YOU HAVE A GREAT AMOUNT OF KNOWLEDGE WHEN IT COMES TO MAIN STREAM SCIENCE,HOW ABOUT STUDYING A BIT MORE ABOUT ASTROLOGY BEFORE COMPLETELY UNDERMINING SOMETHING WHICH HAS BEEN SOUGHT AFTER AND USED BY WISER MEN THEN BOTH YOU AND, I LONG BEFORE OUR TIME.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY FAIR THING TO DO WOULDNT IT? WELL I BELIEVE SO.

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posted May 16, 2003 05:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i wasnt trying to undermine you, i was just asking a question.

i actually have learned a lot more about astrology but not to the level that most of the people on this forum are at as that would take too long and im not that interested in the inner workings of it.

sorry if i offended you greatly, it was just a question. im guessing the answer is no

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posted May 16, 2003 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Mankind will someday discover that astrology, medicine, religion, astronomy and psychiatry are all one. When they are blended, each will be whole. Until then, each will be slightly defective."

~~Sun Signs, Afterword~~
i have nothing further to add except to say ,ash...goodluck on your quest for truth,I HOPE YOU FIND 'IT'.


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ok, i get that your done (and maybe a bit ****** off) but can i ask you one more question?

do you think that the 'yet to be discovered planet' will ever be found?

im not saying what i think on this, i just want to know what you think

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posted May 17, 2003 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well for all virgos sake i HOPE it is found but being human my logic sometimes takes over and so im begining to doubt it...but then who am i to doubt it?
Anythings possible...,well look its out there so it HAS to be found some day...if not in this life time maybe my next.
And im not****** at you ! i just get very defensive about this topic ,i believe in it so strongly that i type in capitals when feeling provoked!
If i may ask you a question though...what IS YOUR STAR SIGN(CORRECTION SUN SIGN)??

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early october so i guess it would be libra

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http://lenisastrology.blogspot.com/2007/06/planet-earth.html

The planet Earth
The planet Earth is the Soul-centred ruler of the sign Sagittarius. We can find the Earth's position on a chart if we count 180 degrees from the natal position of the Sun.


For instance, assume you have the Sun positioned on 21st degree of Leo, than Earth will be found 21st degree of Aquarius. It is an opposition.


The Earth's position, in a chart, represents the concrete path the individual has to pass along in each incarnation. With each incarnation you learn, from practical experiences, which areas you are able to influence others.


Earth is the synthesis between our animal nature and the Soul.

The big conflict between the two takes place where his position in a chart lies.

The field of experience, where she falls, show us the battleground to be redeemed.

The arrows of Sagittarius target the field where Earth is found!


The Sun represents the “creative d.n.a”, we bring into each incarnation in life. The Earth, opposite to him,by position, points where this creativity has to be expressed.


In the area where Earth is placed, we find in which way to service humanity.

Saturn works in parallel with Earth, being both of the same mental nature and linked by the Law of Karma.


If we find Earth in Pisces, it means the Sun is in Virgo, this position will indicate the outer field of service of Virgo. It will give, to the visionary and idealistic Pisces, a touch of practicality.

It will clear up the glamorous desires nature and establishing more equilibrium in the Loving nature.


True Love might be experienced with Earth in Pisces. Our duties, our responsibilities, our dharma in life, are hidden in the Earth's position.


Where the arrows land, is where his field is revealed.


The Earth's environment, which is the physical side of the planet Earth, must be ameliorated, the majority is aware of it! Sound actions must be taken to save the planet, as soon as possible.


What most of people doesn't realize, is that our behaviour,our negative thoughts, negative emotions, especially angriness, produces a violent reaction on the ethereal field of our planet.

All negativities are stored in the ethereal shield which wraps the cortex of our planet. At a certain point

these negativities become concrete, producing disasters, cataclysms, earthquakes, etc... Ponder on this!


Leni provides a large variety of astrological services, workshops, readings and is an accomplished lecturer and writer, in both English and Italian. She has appear on television and radio, and is much in demand for the both traditional and soul centered astrology.

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http://www.librarising.com/astrology/misc/planetearth.html

Planet Earth in Astrology
It's amazing how little attention or understanding our own planet Earth gets in the scheme of astrology today. Earth is a planet after all -isn't it?. And all real planets have astrological influences -don't they? Of course they do. So if Earth is a bonafide planet, and it has indeed an astrological influence, where or what in the hell is this influence in the horoscope?

It must be a HUGE influence since we live on the darned thing! Yet nobody seems to connect the dots, or if they do, you don't hear them shouting it out from the rooftops.

Yes, I've heard the old line about Earth being in the sign opposite your Sun since astronomically it is always 180 degrees away from it. This is pure astronomical rubbish since astrology is a geocentric(earth-centered) science or discipline rather than a heliocentric(sun-centered) one. We're living on the Earth darn it -not the Sun! Real astrology is concerned about how everything appears from where you're standing, and you certainly aren't standing on the Sun!

So how do you a measure the influence of a planet you're standing on. Easy. It's called the eastern horizon(it may have been western in other ages). The eastern horizon is where the Earth's circumference etches its way along the ecliptic from an individual's standpoint(see "the eastern horizon in astrology article" in this site). Of course, we see this as the sky moving westward rather than the Earth rotating eastward. Roughly every two hours, a thirty-degree section of the sky "rises" westward along the ecliptic(planetary path) over the horizon. The exact apparent meeting point between Earth's eastern horizon and the ecliptic marks the Ascending degree and/or sign -from the perspective of the individual's exact time and place of birth. It marks your unique astrological signature on this planet.

In short, the rising sign or ascendant , is the influene of none other than our very own planet! Planet Earth affects us astrologically via the ascendant or rising sign - which is why this part of our horoscope is such a big deal in the first place, yet most astrologers consistently fail to make this connection(between the Earth and the ascendant) clear. Astrologers refer to the rising sign or ascendant as an "angle", a "filter", or a "mask" that we wear, dominating the way we look or act in public. The ascendant is all of these things and more! It is your Earth, Terra, or Gaia sign! Our planet desperately needs a real name! Earth is not a good name as it often associates it with the element of the same name.

Why are astrologers hiding the true meaning of the Ascendant or Rising sign in astrology? What do they have to lose from it? Is the clergy(total believers in astrology) behind their restraint? The knowledge of how Earth is the central or primary influence in the horoscope would certainly revolutionize astrology and make it credible to both science and religion. It may even unite them, as they are both the wayward offsprings of astrology. There are too many schisms in this world and a strong need for a more integrated approach.

Our planet(and all other planets or heavenly bodies) are collective entities(gods if you will), with a definite influence on all of its inhabitants. This influence is not only physical but spiritual or astrological as well. Our bodies come from the earth/Earth which is of the same substance as the other planets and our spirits come from the planet's own spirit or oversoul which envelops it. This spirit or ascendant force has the greatest effect in the shaping of our bodies(and minds). The spirits of the other planets also shape us on all levels. If we birthed on the Sun, then the Sun would become our rising or ascendant influence and the Earth planet would become a regular planetary influence such as we now consider Mars or Jupiter. If we birthed on Mars then Mars would energize our rising sign -and so on.

Our Earth or Ascendant sign is our worldly self, the part of us we are shaping or integrating into ourselves as we breathe or speak. It is our current lesson or school and there are twelve ascendants to master or experience before we can leave this planet permanently. Ideally, if Pisces is your current rising sign, Aquarius was your last, and Aries wll be your next. Your rising sign is a way of keeping tabs on your many different lives here. The keywords for planet Earth are diversity and relationships which can give important clues about its ruling sign.

It's a real shame that astrology as a whole has not yet made the connection between Earth's astrological influence and the ascendant or rising sign. Or if they have, they're not telling. This is sad, because it's really keeping astrology from flourishing into the great science/art that it is. What we need in astrology is less parroting and more courage and original thought. Most people already know the truth and are simply waiting for the "authorities" to state it.

In summary, our Earth is a planet too -with a astrological influence, but because we live on it, its influence comes to us in a special way -via the ascendant or rising sign.


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posted December 10, 2010 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joyrjw     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.btinternet.com/~seamaid/earth_through_the_signs.htm


Earth through the Signs

One of the most important facets and goals of human evolution at this time is the creation of the conscious link, the collective Rainbow Bridge, which is joining humanity (the Fourth Kingdom) to the Fifth Kingdom of Souls – the Planetary Hierarchy, and the unfolding Christ Consciousness. This exalted loving place is very much related to Venus, the Fifth Ray, Aquarius, Jupiter and to the Third Eye, in the centers in the human organism.

The goal of life on Earth is to become an Initiate, and unfold that aspect of the Christ Consciousness which dwells within each of us. The form of that expression differs from person to person, relative to the nature of individual dharma and karma, but the ~essential~ Love/Wisdom of that unfolding consciousness is the same for us all. This is our unifying link. Sagittarius and Capricorn, sign of the Initiate, are linked through the Third Ray association of the Earth and Saturn, and provide us with yet another insight into the importance of the experience gained through life on this planet. The two signs also point to the relationship of the Path to the Goal.

In all the combinations of Earth in the signs which follow the reader is advised to include the influences of Saturn and Sagittarius, for wherever the Earth is placed, so too is the karma of the Path and vision of the Goal.

Earth in Aries

This position points to a life that serves to release or birth Active Intelligence into the environment. This is done through awakening oneself, and then others, to the latent possibilities for the creative expression of the Earth’s resources, and of matter in general. This is balanced by the Sun in Libra, indicating that such resources have to be distributed (through Uranus and the 7th Ray) according to the Law of Right Human Relations. This combination blends the energies of Rays One and Seven {Aries} with Ray 3 (the Earth) and is thus very much related to the relationship of Spirit and matter through the focus of Active Intelligence.

Earth in Taurus

A most potent position for the dispelling of material glamours and illusions. This placement reveals that one of the most essential tasks the individual has to accomplish is the creation of those forms which will be the proper instrument for the expression of the Will-to-Be. The Third and Fourth Ray combined in this position, providing a potent and challenging life. This soul-centred person would be constantly involved in the process of breaking down those forms and structures which are no longer able to transmit Light. The keyword for this position could be ~I break down and unblock~, as this function characterises one who is born with the Earth in Taurus and the Sun in Scorpio. It should be remembered that Venus, exoteric ruler of the Bull, is considered the Higher Self of the Earth. The Earth in Taurus helps to reveal the inner truth of the spiritual reality hidden all too often within the context of terrestrial life and material forms.

Earth in Gemini

This is a very challenging position as its esoteric significance is more profound. Since the Earth rules Sagittarius, it would be natural to assume that this planet has its detriment in the sign of the Twins. Yet Venus rules Gemini and the connection between the Earth and Venus is a highly positive and beautiful one. One can only speculate and so consider the following conclusions in this light. It is a fact that Gemini, through its association with Venus creates in the minds of humanity an increased awareness of the essential duality which exists between material, sensual desires and the urge to align oneself with the Will-to-Good of the spirit. In effect the basic duality of one on the Fixed Cross is this conflict between the will of the lesser self and the Will of the Creator. This is a collective planetary, and particularly human dilemma. It appears that this duality is increased when the Earth is in Gemini and the Sun is in Sagittarius, thus giving a heightened spiritual opportunity to one with this placement.

On the personality level, this may indicate that the energies of the lower self tend to scatter and become dissipated in the unconscious attempt to integrate egocentric motivations. A Soul-centred individual with this placement in the natal horoscope would tend to be quite aware of the disparity existing between the values and goals of the personality and those of the Higher Self. The house position of the Earth would reveal that area of life in which this duality is most pronounced. In the symbology of the Twins the Ancient Wisdom Teachings tell us that the Earth is related to the Brother ~whose light grows stronger cycle by cycle~. This, of course, refers to the increasing expression of Soul-focused love.

Earth in Cancer

Cancer is the ~Gate In~ and anchors the incarnating soul onto the Planet in terms of the personality and the mass consciousness. It is a beginning of the evolutionary arc which first seeks to develop self consciousness in Leo, and then group consciousness (and subsequent world service) in Aquarius. From the Soul centred perspective of one who is born with this position and thus with the Sun in Capricorn, the emphasis on the Third Ray is paramount. Cancer is the primary sign of the expression of this Ray and Capricorn is found here as well. Saturn the ruler of the latter, on both Soul and personality levels, is the primary planetary expression of Active Intelligence and is partnered in this respect by the Earth. This is the purest Third Ray expression possible (although Earth in Capricorn also has a potential Third Ray expression). The dharma of the life is clear; to create those physical structures and thought forms that allow Light to be utilised as a source of strength for others. The house position will reveal this ~well of spiritual waters sunk deeply into the Earth~ so that all may come to drink of the Father (in this case the Father of the Waters, Neptune).

Earth in Leo

The mental quality of this combination is very strong, as we have a blending in Rays One and Five (Leo) and Three (Earth). Yet the Sun is of the Second Ray, so the potential for creating those forms of expression of Love/Wisdom is very great. The Sun in Aquarius brings in the polarised energies of yet another Fifth Ray sign, and its Second Ray ruler, Jupiter. The Aquarian will be able to find an Earth based focus (that is, the Earth’s house position) for the urge to network and unite groups of various individuals. The self conscious quality of the Earth’s Leo placement will point to exactly where the Water Bearer has to distribute his ~burden~ of consciousness.

Earth in Virgo

This is the position wherein the ~Mother of All Forms~ can do an incredible amount of good to release the potency of the hidden Christ child in the Soul. This combination points to an incarnation in which the individual works hard at healing and making the life on Earth more whole. Spiritually, it is a very strong position given the fact that the Sun is in Pisces, and the energies of Pluto are also manifesting. The Earth-based focus gives Pluto a chance to ~unearth the Underworld~ evoking from the depths of materiality the essential quality of love which lies in dark obscurity for the majority of humanity.

Earth in Libra

There are three sets of connections which should be mentioned in regard to this position; it is highly mental in nature, as it is composed of Rays Three (Earth and Libra), Five (Venus) and Seven (Libra and Uranus). It involves the impulsing of the Sun in Aries and its focus in the ~Place where the Will of God is Known~ with the linkage of the Higher and lower minds (Third and Fifth Rays, and Venus). This position also indicates the externalisation of the Divine Ideas for the unfoldment of the Plan of Creation into the ~minds of men~. This is accomplished through the relationship of Rays One-Three-Five and their synthesised expression through Uranus and Ray Seven. The Mind of the Soul-centred person with the Earth in Libra and the Sun in Aries will act as a tool for the birthing on Earth of those essential Ideas ~whose time has come~.

Earth in Scorpio

This position continues to reveal the incredible opportunity for individuals on the Scorpio-Taurus polarity in their quest for the Path. It also reveals the particular type of service one may render while discovering and co-creating the Way. The Earth and Mars enter into an intimate relationship through this combination breaking down all resistance to the reorientation of material values and the release of Spiritual Will. The house position of the Earth in Scorpio is a clear indication of where a tremendous focus of detachment and sacrifice has to be made in order that a greater realisation of wholeness and healing can be created. The potential for healing can be very powerful, as this combination is incredibly magnetic, drawing to itself matter of a much finer and Soul-centred nature to replace the destruction of the forms of desire so associated with its signs and planets.

Earth in Sagittarius

Esoteric Ruler

The potential of the Second Ray is at its highest in this combination. The Path on the Earth will be conditioned in the daily life by Jupiter, the exoteric planetary ruler of the sign. Its polarity is the Sun in Gemini, both influenced exclusively by Love/wisdom. Through the tremendous duality of Gemini-Sagittarius, the Soul centred individual firmly comes to know the Path he is to take on the Earth. The dharma of the life is to anchor oneself on the Path, and through such efforts, to communicate and share with others the focus of this struggle. It is interesting to note that the astrological centre of the universe is located in the sign of the Archer. When the Earth also finds itself in this sign it would appear that a special link is formed. When the Soul-centred individual anchors his feet firmly on the Path of Earth in Sagittarius he opens the Way for many others to follow.

A further insight about the combination of energies may be revealed through the following passage from ~The Old Commentary~ - "When the dual forces of cosmic brothers (Gemini) becomes the energy of the one who rides towards the light (Sagittarius) then the fourth becomes the fifth. Humanity, the link, becomes the hierarchy, the bestower of all good. Then all the Sons of God rejoice"

Earth in Capricorn

As we know Capricorn is the ~Gate Out~ of ordinary incarnations, and onto the wheel of initiation and the birthing of the Christ consciousness hidden in the womb of the Virgin. The position the Earth occupies in the natal chart when the Sun is in Cancer reveals the place and function by which the Soul centred individual can most positive release his or her portion of the One Life into manifestation. Both the dharma and the karma of the life conjoin through Saturn’s association with Capricorn, the Earth and the Third Ray. Should Saturn also be found in Capricorn, conjunct the Earth and in actual opposition to the Sun in Cancer, this incarnation points to a great culmination of previous efforts in former lifetimes and a great challenge is revealed in the current one. The challenge involves the proper structuring of the life forces so that they are put under the total Will of the Father. There is no room for duality in this position, and the light of the one-pointed disciple must shine through the illusions of the material life. No-one said it would be easy!

Earth in Aquarius

The developed sense of self consciousness found in the life of the Soul-centred Leo individual finds ample opportunity for world service when the Earth is in the sign of the Water Bearer. This combination shows an emphasis on the mental plane, as this is a Third Ray planet acting through a Fifth Ray sign. The effects of Saturn as co-ruler of Aquarius on the personality level, as well as its Third Ray connection to the Earth are also significant. This position points to the need to create those structures of mind which channel and distribute innovative concepts into the collective consciousness. The work to be undertaken in this capacity involves the loving use (Jupiter) of the Concrete Mind for the advancement of those Ideas and Principles that will bring a sense of unified wholeness to human experience.

Earth in Pisces

A most potent placement, as there is a strong blending of the three Rays of Aspect through Pluto (First) Earth (Third) and Pisces (Second). The synthesis occurs through the Sixth Ray quality of the Fish and the devotion of the Soul centred individual to humanity, the Christ consciousness, and the Plan. The dharma involves selfless work to release people from those facets of the astral/desire nature which inhibit the flow of the Universal loving matrix (Second Ray). For the individual with the Sun in Virgo, the outer field of service will be indicated by the house position of this Earth in the natal chart. Jupiter and Neptune, the exoteric rulers of this sign, add even more loving idealism to this effort, but the fundamental nature of the Earth itself serves to balance such aspirations within the context of practicality.

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Sidereal:
Sun:Libra 29'28
Moon:Leo 14'12
Asc:Gemini 5'07
Mercury:Scorpio 4'32
Mars:Scorpio 2'07
Uranus:Libra 14'05
Saturn:Cancer 22'20
Pluto:Virgo 18'44
Neptune:Scorpio 18'32
Venus:Sagittarius 7'36
Jupiter:Taurus 2'00
NorthNode:Libra08'58' Chiron:Ari 04°04'
MC: Aquarius 17'28

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PHILIP SEDGWICK also have written on this topic:

Sure You Know Your Sun Sign...
But do you know your Earth Sign?

The following content comes from the innovative and leading edge treatise, The Sun at the Center, by Philip Sedgwick, available by download from the site's store. This is virtually the only interpretive book on Earth concerning heliocentric, or Sun-centered astrology.

Simply, the Earth sign stands opposite the Sun in longitude - exact to the degree, minute and second, whether seen geocentrically or heliocentrically. How can this critical polarity be ignored, especially given the fact we stand upon Earth? Take your own firm stand on terra firma! Read onward in the journey to rediscover the lost Earth.


Aries Earth (Libra Sun)

Lesson - The lesson involved in the Arien Earthling exists in the process of self-actualization. The individual must come to a full sense of self to allow functional relationships with others. These beings are highly interactive and not necessarily with other beings. Interaction at this Earth level may manifest through a direct confrontation or exchange with a person and it may also result with a thing or a principle. The interaction is secondary to the level of validation which they seek. A sense of self-worth independent of others must result for assertiveness to be complete. At some point, the individual will realize that with or without people, places and things the self remains intact. Until this process is understood, the soul continues to establish faulty interactions to create alienation, isolation and perceived rejection. This is all done in the interest of self-contained validation.

Legacy - Upon completion of self-realization and a self-contained sense of being free from the need of input from others, relatability becomes a primary dynamic in the individual’s life. Interaction begins to provide a mechanism of on-going support for the individual as the person teaches others to recognize that which is self-disguised within their beings. This discipline can be taught by the Aries Earth with incredible compassion for the crisis of self-identity. The individual retains the ability to interact in a non-involved manner, allowing truth and personal integrity to prevail above all else.


Taurus Earth (Scorpio Sun)

Lesson - Many presume that the Earth rules Taurus. Perhaps one would then assume that the Earth in home territory would maintain a certain comfort or reliability in this Sign/Planet relationship. Perhaps that is true and only at the legacy level. These souls drop themselves into a body and begin an immediate struggle to learn absolute (Divine) worth without extorting, exploiting or destroying the value of the high worth item. The physical preoccupies the primal Taurus Earth mind, blinding all objectivity of what truly is important. Priority systems must be established, the truth told and motivations revealed. This all tends to combine the positive aspects of the lessons to lead to the luxury of the legacy. However, it is critical that the learning process for this Earthly student include doing his or her own home work with no ruses.

Legacy - Once optimized, these Earthlings quickly recognize the worth and value of a person, place or thing. They are challenged by intrinsic worth and seek to polish raw materials to a brilliant luster. These individuals can become great motivators. This is often achieved through agitation and playing a negative role to produce a positive effect. Negativity is only used as a transformative.


Gemini Earth (Sagittarius Sun)

Lesson - This sign axis must learn to deal with an intellectually intense duality that teaches that the more consideration and objectivity, the greater the focus. These people perceive this postulate to be in direct contradiction to the basic programming of the mind. The blinders must be removed and a willingness to view polar opposition must result. A mental overload exists until the individual recognizes that missed objectives result from the inability to adjust or correct a course once in motion. Long range effects appear in little steps. As a Chinese proverb states, “a journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step.” Such is the case for the Gemini Earth. Steps along the way allow for reconsideration, revision and resolutions to be refined without interruption to the natural direction.

Legacy - Once in a mode of receptivity and diversification, the Gemini Earth individual becomes one of the most directed and consistent contemplators on the planet. The lesson taught by these people is that there is no absolute way to get there. Many paths exist between here and there. Correction is taught as a positive attribute and not as an indicator of something thought or done incorrectly.


Cancer Earth (Capricorn Sun)

Lesson - Mother Earth herself reaches the closest point of approach (perihelion) to the Sun in Cancer. The Cancer Earth contains the need to respond to the most direct sunlight and illumination of all the Earth placements. Direct and undisputed contact with the nurturing action is maintained and requires useful, non-interfering incorporation. Domination tendencies must convert into a support mechanism. Those with this Earth must learn about responsibilities and that each person owns a different sense of responsibility. This realization precludes being disappointed in one’s offspring (anyone to whom the Cancer Earth becomes attached) and releases guilt, expectation and irritation. The pursuit of Earth dictates the need to frolic in the Sun. The ability to enjoy and align with nature establishes contact with the base of Earth. This eliminates an inability to appreciate beauty as it exists. This individual must reject cynicism in the soul to enable the heart to open.

Legacy - Cancer Earth people are among the most sensitive and caring upon the planet. They demonstrate this clearly when actualized in being through support and love given freely and without consideration of reaction or rejection. Love is given without expectation and the individual teaches how to love safely and responsibly without interrupting the flow of another person’s development.


Leo Earth (Aquarius Sun)

Lesson - The development of the personality in an ego sense is the first portion of this soul’s lesson. The ego must then evolve into a unique sense of self-contained individuality which functions with out the need to compare the self to others. Confidence is the quality which stimulates the beginning of the work leading directly into the legacy. The lesson, though, is a tough one and contains intense periods of variation in self-esteem. Once the belief in and knowledge of one’s own internal strength sets in, these people begin an active campaign leading others into awareness of themselves.

Legacy - The Leonine Earthlings strive to lead others in their realm to realize the need for a self-contained sense of individuality. They teach others how to own one’s being and allow creative self- expression to flourish. The Leo Earth people discourage others from cloning or engaging in emulation techniques that establish superficial attachments to the projected qualities of another individual. These people stress uniqueness and strive to promote the confidence of everyone they encounter. This inspirational ability of the Leo Earth may manifest in both direct and indirect means of interaction with others. Personal contact is not necessary for the process to occur.


Virgo Earth (Pisces Sun)

Lesson - Virgo Earthlings appear on the planet to develop an aware ness of the principles of integration on a minute level. Overall knowledge of the system seems to exist in these beings. A need for understanding the detailed simplicity of life’s process must follow. Discipline becomes a key factor in the schooling of the Virgoan Earth as resistance to commitment and structure is taken for granted. This discipline, once implemented, allows these individuals to set into motion the plans, creative concepts and intuitive insights which flash through the mind. Discipline strives to eliminate the inability often experienced in prioritizing life’s endeavors. The organized for mats of discipline yield the ability to select an appropriate creative pursuit to manifest.

Legacy - The legacy of the Virgo Earth resides within the ability to adjust to a flowing system of discipline. These individuals are then capable of presenting to others the synthesis of the subtle and the gross, the sacred and the profane and the parts and the wholes.


Libra Earth (Aries Sun)

Lesson - At one level it appears that these people exist solely for the purpose of establishing identity of the self at the soul’s core. The lesson adds a deeper aspect to the identity quest. It becomes imperative for these individuals to learn the active dynamic of interfacing with others on the planet. Self-assertion must be conducted in such a way as not to interfere with the will and identities of others.

Legacy - Once polarized, these individuals leave behind the lesson of interaction without compromise. The cultivation of the sense of self is a demonstrated blending with an ability to be and to let others be. Interference and imposition diminishes creating a clear approach in human relationship.


Scorpio Earth (Taurus Sun)

Lesson - The drive to transform need presents the biggest challenge of this Earth/Sun polarity. Attachment and possession must be over come. Learning how to have and hold, and how the have/hold principle differs from owning/possessing, creates the crisis of reorientation. Scorpio Earth souls must learn to experience their feelings, especially feelings of material resentment, jealousy and emotional bondage. An innate understanding of the natural value of human resources must learned. This resource of human potential must be understood from the standpoint of using people, not abusing people. Should this lesson about human resource not be learned, the Taurean tendencies only subvert deeper. The subverted tendencies appear through the use of others in a negative manner, creating a master/slave relationship.

Legacy - Once cultivated, these seekers become the masters of manipulating others into positive, creative spaces of existence. An understanding of when to intervene and when to not intervene becomes inherent in one’s nature. These individuals may become compulsive, not being able to see waste of a mind or creative potential. They constantly push, shove and work to apply every available resource. A unique ability to invest in the resources of others also evolves. True levels of abundance and prosperity consciousness can and must be taught.


Sagittarius Earth (Gemini Sun)

Lesson - These Earthlings must learn that focus does not rule out necessary pursuits. They sense that there is a lack of freedom of choice when, in fact, a simple level of mental discrimination strives to present choices. Short range planning must be relinquished to the long range projection. Distraction must yield to well disciplined, conscious direction. Simplification must be produced to gain distance, direction and result. Yet, the need to remain responsive to the subtleness of Divine Signaling is necessary so that single mindedness and dogma does not result.

Legacy - The Sagittarius Earth spirit strives to leave behind a sense of direction stemming from their abilities to focus. A directed philosophy results from knowing which needs to pursue and which not. Vicarious learning must be encouraged to prevent redundancy of the human consciousness effort. The value of thoughts and knowing is taught to others.


Capricorn Earth (Cancer Sun)

Lesson - The Capricorn Earth strives to generate an autonomous sense of self which can only be derived from a strong sense of support and foundation. This support initially extends from external sources and the individual resists receiving support (based upon a point of view that he or she renders support only). This unilateral perception must be terminated for the person to evolve to the fullest. Under standing the bidirectional nature of support assists these people in growth. The awareness of assumable responsibility, to take and not to take, must be assimilated.

Legacy - With the Cancer side understood and synthesized, the Capricorn Earth provides others with a quiet, parental type of support which encourages assuming total responsibility for the self; no more and no less. Sharing of support encourages cooperative interactions on all levels of the creative/receptive axis.


Aquarius Earth (Leo Sun)

Lesson - Within the natural Leo association to the Sun this axis assumes a stronger natural emphasis. The goal of the actualized ego bears the fulfillment of humanity, a lesson easier stated than learned. Overcoming the guru syndrome requires great attention and per severance to cause. One must be conscious not to accept unwarranted praise and at the same time remain accepting of praise which is valid. Avoidance of idle flattery and yes-type followers must be included in the growth. Total identity as a unique and persistent individual cultivates some necessary isolationism for the growth process. Courage and commitment of the self requires more effort here than in any other case. One must obtain a strong sense of self that is referenced only to the self. This self referencing frees the ego from superiority/inferiority dynamics.

Legacy - Once actualized, these individuals strive to teach everyone to be who they happen to be and to become that which they strive to be. Courage and commitment are taught hand in hand with respect for the being that one happens to be. The creative process is accentuated, allowing them to exercise a purposeful lead in humanity. A choice must also be taught. That choice is the ability to help humanity from a non-involved point of view or from direct and inclusive involvement. A good example is a hermit who would pray over the dominion of humanity versus the leader who works with a group in the interest of evolution. The difficult choice is individual and must not be transferred to any other entity or oracle.


Pisces Earth (Virgo Sun)

Lesson - To flow in the dimension of experience creates the major lessons of evolvement for these Earthlings. When the Pisces Earth encounters a dynamic of growth, the tendency is to compartmentalize the awareness in an intellectual or academic manner. This is fine as far as the process is understood. The only drawback to this system comes from the integration of the experience. To understand experientially creates a conflict for this sign. Once an experience is assimilated, the tendency becomes to translate the experience in a logical or mnemonic manner. On many levels of experience this is impossible, as no words can formulate a concise enough picture to represent the occurrence. Thus, the individual falls in the position of knowing and not being able to explain. The creative process builds up momentum from such a response, allowing the individual to be manipulated by perplexity into realizing an unrecognized aspect of internal ingenuity. Cognitive dissonance becomes the well known “A-ha!” of under standing.

Legacy - The Pisces Earth person knows how to translate inexplicable experiences into a system of reference, provided that when another person flows into the same stream of consciousness the event will be understood for what it is. A Taoist teaching method arises, allowing great levels of individual creativity to be tapped without compromising the process of logic, yet not allowing the mental to interfere with the flow of creativity. An extremely delicate balance of co-existence emerges guiding the person experientially and logically through all events in life. This balance utilizes every aspect of involvement in life to ascertain more of the process of growth and evolution.

Below are the integration considerations of the Earth and Moon appearing in the same place from the Sun's point of view. Regardless of one's geocentric lunar placement, seen from the Sun, a conjunction between Earth and Moon results.

Aries Earth/Moon - The nurturing sought by these people asks, somewhat apologetically, for acceptance of the self as is. Acceptance of the self when it is the new, improved version is not sufficient. These people require unconditional love and support for the identity they have right now. Once accepted, these individuals become the best givers in the heliocentric zodiac.

Taurus Earth/Moon - This combination needs support for self- worth. The individuals must be supported for what they are, not what they have, or what they can create with their own intrinsic resources. The value of personal attributes is paramount as is the need for support of the individual’s ability to manifest positive activity and make life happen with ease.

Gemini Earth/Moon - These beings seek support for the attribute of listening. Their purpose of the lifetime requires objective consideration of external input (without that input seemingly invalidating the individual). Support for changing the mind, shifting direction, and changing horses mid-stream is needed.

Cancer Earth/Moon - This is perhaps the most intense of the Earth/ Moon systems. These individuals need support to have the space to cry, laugh, feel and not worry. Rest comes through emotional support and the relinquishment of the need to maintain control. Although resistance is natural when confronted with support, acceptance of support bears great rewards in all aspects of life, most especially the professional realm.

Leo Earth/Moon - To be an altruist and to dedicate one’s life to humanity, much internal strength is prerequisite. Thus, these people require ego support, confidence building and listening to, especially for their most radical and unusual ideas. They need to shine and be emotionally polished by their support group to the brilliant personality luster which results when purpose is pursued.

Virgo Earth/Moon - Support for order without criticism is required by these individuals. It is a tricky balance to integrate the creative and the logical. Encouragement to see the details, facts and processes required to fulfill the fantasy must be supported for these Earthlings. This provides the understanding required to follow inspiration from concept through to completion.

Libra Earth/Moon - These people require support for relating with others on an equal, cooperative level. To support this effort, relation ships with peers become the starting block. Relating above or below the individual’s self-perceived status only serves to complicate issues of fairness. Equality comes from willing giving. To support these people, compliment all externalized generous efforts they perform and establish a system of cooperative giving by asking and receiving.

Scorpio Earth/Moon - Money is not power, nor does money ensure good sexual relationships. These people require support for intense, emotional involvement without external distractions like food, money and things. Performance must be discouraged. Fullness of being needs encouragement. Telling such individuals that they are worthy even if they have nothing takes a step towards the initially incomprehensible and seeds the needed message.

Sagittarius Earth/Moon - Support for the validity of one’s ideas is required. These individuals must teach, in their own way, but cannot deliver this dharma without a realization that their ideas are valid, original and important. Support for thinking (especially out loud or on paper) provides the baseline for allowing acceptance of the importance of the individual’s intelligence.

Capricorn Earth/Moon - Freedom from the responsibility of others sets the scene for support with these Earthlings. Allowing for the Ultimate acceptance of responsibility solicits support. That responsibility results when one accepts conditions in life completely free from what others caused, needed or obliged the individual to do. Seeking and consciously asking for support is best.

Aquarius Earth/Moon - Originality of the human model requires validation to make this placement reach optimum performance. To inspire this person serves everyone. Ego is a temporary condition in which self-ness emerges. It is not to be feared nor denied; ego is intended to be supported fully and completely. “Be like the Sun at midday,” as the I Ching points out. Shine on, fully and completely.

Pisces Earth/Moon - Support for openness to the unseen, unknown and the non-tangible best encourages these individuals into fullness. An ethereal sense mutes the obsession with logic into a creative balance which allows for talent to emerge. This emergence takes ideas and gives them abstract form which ultimately yields a valid, logical result.

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