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Monk
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posted June 03, 2003 04:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it possible to detect partners ain't being faithful or at risk of being a jerk just by looking at birth chart?

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1scorp
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posted June 03, 2003 04:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know? I can usually tell just by looking at the person

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posted June 03, 2003 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Or listening to the person...

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1scorp
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posted June 03, 2003 04:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That too

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posted June 03, 2003 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A natal chart will show if their is a "tendency" BUT we all have free will...so even though someone may have a potential "unfaithful aspect" it doesn't always mean they will "activate" it. They may choose (free will) to rise above it.
Sue

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lioneye68
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posted June 03, 2003 05:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Monk, I think you could definately see the capacity to decieve in the birth chart by looking for 12th house and/or Neptune themes. Also, harshly aspected moons (especially with Mars/Pluto aspects) may be emotionally volatile, which can lead to all sorts of scary stuff!
PS, that's not to say that someone with NONE of these themes in their natal chart isn't capeable of doing someone wrong in Love as well. You really just have to play it by ear and observe objectively.

Remember.... we all have within us the capacity to override negative tendancies.

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N_wEvil
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posted June 03, 2003 05:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
use your intuition - first impressions are seldom wrong

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Oxychick
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posted June 03, 2003 07:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first impressions are usually wrong.

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sthenri
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posted June 03, 2003 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My first impressions are usually wrong too.
Is it like a mind ____? Sorry to be so crude;>
I have noticed the mercury neptune conjunction is an issue for me. Has to do with too much mental fantasy. I do not like this. Look for the 8th house too, It can tell you a lot about a person's strong emotions regarding love and marriage.

I have a moon venus square and a mars/pluto square but I am not aggressive or violent as suggested by astrologers. I am aware of my deep feelings but I express these feelings in a positive way by taking action on my own, usually I take a walk by myself.

I look at planets in the seventh house and how many. A person with lots of planets in a house that is opposite my ascendant is a real challenge. I have Venus in the 4th house and am sometimes deluded by others who have planets in the fourth because I like them too much.

Basic security is an issue but you can tell if a man is secure or not by asking your friends, it takes Courage to face the truth. Even if he is unfaithful are you strong enough to face it?

Getting in touch with your feelings and being honest and trusting yourself will help you out.

I am sorry you are around such a jerk, if you feel he is, then you have a right to feel angry. You can't control what he does, only what you do.

Natasha


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1scorp
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posted June 03, 2003 10:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great advice Natasha

I've also realized that some people I may/or may not like doesn't really make them a "jerk". As some people really enjoy these people. That also goes the other direction into how someone thinks of me.

It really just depends on the people involved. Like Natasha was referring to... some may be able to handle certain things and some may not.

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Monk
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posted June 04, 2003 04:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend recently met this guy and she is unsure of his advancement on whether is he just looking for a fling or a serious one. Then she sort of asked me - but well, I feel that he's ain't a serious sort through logic, counselling experience. Then I see if I can get some kind of astrology 'prove' or 'tendency' to back up my words.

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Aphrodite
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posted June 04, 2003 09:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello monk,

i went through a similar situation like your friend in april. i had an "instinctual" feeling the moment i opened the door and saw the guy. nothing wrong with either casual fun or commitment.

i asked him directly a week later what his modus operandi was, and told him mine. i don't like wasting time, and have no plans to waste someone else's either. i went the direct route because i was interested and did not want to waste my time if we did not have the same objectives.

the other issue of concern was that he had several indications in his chart for deception. i gave him a benefit of a doubt and went out with him. i wanted to know how he exercised his free-will.

good luck to your friend.

aphrodite

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lioneye68
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posted June 04, 2003 11:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So how did it turn out, Aphrodite? Or are you not done "studying" him yet?

Just curious, what were the indicators for deception in his chart?

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Aphrodite
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posted June 04, 2003 12:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lioneye!

I forgot to answer Thanks for the reminder.

Well, the instinct was completely dead-on accurate. He was just looking to date me and others at the same time. I was looking for a committed, and stable relationship. He was open to dating me still. I declined and went my separate way. That very same day. I hate wasting time, playing games, and definitely not in the business of hoping to change someone. This came out quick and clean, with a 1 week turnaround.

The red-flags in his chart were Venus in Aquarius squaring both Neptune and Uranus in Scorpio. Venus or Mars in Aquarius can be a red-flags in it of themselves, it depends on the person.

Aphrodite

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lioneye68
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posted June 04, 2003 02:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm. Interesting.
I was cheated on by a Venus in Sag/Mars in Gem. I chalked it up to the "wonderlust" Venus, and left it at that.

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posted June 04, 2003 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes us Venus in Sagittarius people are searching for the ideal and we get lost in the process. There are times when we think someone is our ideal, then realize they are not and move on.

I never cheated on another "sexually" but I did date a couple of guys at the same time, letting each one know I was not looking for a "relationship" or exclusive. Some took offense and accused me of playing around, but that is because they did not want to admit I had told them upfront what I wanted. Similar to what Aphrodite said. I had one relationship that had ended and the ex still accused me of cheating, but we had been over for a while, so go figure. He was a Virgo with his Venus and Mars in Leo.


I have my Venus in Sag conjuncting my Sun and trining my Moon. I also have Mars in Pisces which adds some tension to both, but I think lends a bit more emotion to the mix.

My Leo has his Venus in Gemini and Mars in Sagittarius, just the opposite of your dude.

Sorry you were cheated on, that really sucks.

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lioneye68
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posted June 04, 2003 03:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, suck it does. But it was a long time ago, and although it caused our relationship to end, I forgave him. I didn't take him back, but I forgave him. (i.e. I didn't send a hitman after him )
I still see him, and he regrets it deeply, but...too bad, so sad. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, too little too late.

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pidaua
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posted June 04, 2003 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aphrodite,

Please tell us more about the Venus and Mars in Aquarius. I have a friend that has both and he's kind of different. LOL (I am not involved with him, but just interested in the profile)

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sthenri
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posted June 05, 2003 02:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That Uranus-Venus Square or Opposition can cause problems communicating (or being honest) with the opposite sex out of fear of rejection. Mine are opposite. Uranus and Neptune Square is a little insecure.

Natasha

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Aphrodite
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posted June 05, 2003 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in Aquarius for many people, imparts a disregard for emotional responsibility towards others. They will do what they do, say what they say, and think they are completely logical and unemotional---yet are clueless what the emotional ramifications are towards the ones they love. Many do this unconsciously and hence, are prone to have relationships fail.

Mars in Aquarius gives a propensity to not take on the responsibilities of sexual relationships. There is a difference between engagement, and being completely present---emotionally, mentally, and physically for the individual(s) one is with. They correlate sex on an abstract, distant fashion, and do not care for the subtle things like erotica, and romance. As a result, it is easy for them to maintain several distant sexual relationships and not feel a single thing towards any of them. They are the most likely to not give you a Valentine's Day card, spend the money they saved for a Christmas present for you to buy themselves a comic book, and/or have a disregard to planning a tangible future with their partners.

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lioneye68
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posted June 05, 2003 05:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EEEEkkkkk!! There must be so many men with THIS placement.
I wonder if Aqua moon has some of these characteristics.

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theFajita3
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posted June 05, 2003 08:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AHA! My Venus is in Aquarius!!

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Namaste!

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lovely
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posted June 06, 2003 12:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aphrodite, wow.. ive also dated someone with venus in aquarius (12th house no less) which was squaring his neptune in scorpio 7th house and opposing uranus in leo 5th house. he said everything i wanted to hear, told me he loved me, etc. once i fell in love and gave of myself fully, he dropped me like a flaming bag of dog poop LOL.

that was a big heartbreak for me.

oh well. just wanted to relate my story

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1scorp
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posted June 06, 2003 12:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lovely you are hilarous

Sorry, not being dropped... just your phrasing. He dropped you?! His loss.

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lovely
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posted June 06, 2003 12:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh im over it now adn we're great friends.. he has more redeeming qualities and is a gentle soul, a loyal friend to all,,but just fickle and non-commital when it comes to love.

and yep scorp1--his loss

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