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proxieme
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posted June 05, 2003 09:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where's everyone's Saturn located (by house)?

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1scorp
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posted June 05, 2003 10:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My saturn is in Virgo, in my 11th house.

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Twin Lady
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posted June 05, 2003 10:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in Scorpio AND the 8th house here.


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taj
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posted June 05, 2003 10:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
fifth.
and i even know what it means.

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pidaua
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posted June 05, 2003 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Prox,

I have Saturn in Taurus in my 8th house.

My Leo also has Saturn in Taurus but in his 12th house.

I have read that these two position can cause some issues regarding self esteem, joint finances and sex.

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posted June 05, 2003 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in 8th and Taurus. (Retro & peregrine. I think).

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proxieme
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posted June 05, 2003 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
D'oh - I forgot to add mine:

Virgin Saturn in the 11th, too.

Taj - You're one step up on me

(...but I am trying...)
I'm reading Liz Greene's _Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil_ ... ach...
me mum just called & asked if I'd like to have lunch.

OK - I have this master plan.
It will emerge soon.
Bwa ha ha.

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1scorp
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posted June 05, 2003 11:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Really? You too Prox?! If you figure it out than let me know

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N_wEvil
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posted June 05, 2003 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my saturn is one of the primary elements in my Evil Libra Stellium™

Conjuncting mars and pluto in my 6th

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posted June 05, 2003 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi N-w
Saturn actually likes being in Libra......if that makes you feel any better
Sue

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posted June 05, 2003 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st house Saturn here but it's in Libra but unaspected....hmmmm

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proxieme
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posted June 05, 2003 01:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1scorp - I'll write-up some key points that L.Greene goes over in the book later.

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posted June 05, 2003 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in Leo in the 10th

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N_Evil: "Evil Libra Stellium?" I even like the alliteration-- no wonder you trademarked it!

Saturn in Pisces, in the 12th. <sigh> Everytime I look it up, the description starts out with something gloomy like "Saturn in Pisces constitutes a difficult legacy..." blahblahblah. The planet of structure, in the sign and house of No Structure. Maybe I live it, but I don't get it.

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posted June 05, 2003 02:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Maybe I live it, but I don't get it"

I liked that Lunar


That would be great Proxi The more I read on this Saturn dude, the more concerned I become

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Saturn in Aries in the 4th.

Basically makes me dread my family, not sure why. (they just infringe on my freedom I guess)

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posted June 05, 2003 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chelle9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is in Virgo in my fifth house...what's the revelance of that? Curious ol' me...

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Saturn in the 1st House: Your personal manner is austere and dignified but you need to be more outgoing and develop a sense of humor. You're aristocratic, hard-working, patient, serious-minded and shy. You have a feeling of personal inadequacy that spurs you to great achievements. You're willing to accept responsibility and work long and hard to achieve prominence based on merit, but you must learn to love and cooperate before you succeed. You have good reasoning ability and a sense of justice and you don't act or speak without a definite purpose. If well aspected, you're a loyal friend who's able to offer practical advice when it's most needed, but if afflicted, frustration manifests as scheming and a desire to get even. You're often born mature and get younger as you grow older. If afflicted, limitations and hardships in your childhood create many obstacles to overcome before you achieve freedom, independence and self-sufficiency. If heavily afflicted, suffering in early life results in selfish, materialistic ambition and an attitude of mistrust that makes you look out for yourself before all others. This mistrust causes you to build an emotional wall, further alienating others, and bringing loneliness and more mistrust in an unending cycle. If afflicted, you may suffer from physical handicaps or a disability.


Saturn in the 2nd House: Your ambition and hard work are aimed at acquiring money, material possessions and the accompanying status, but if afflicted, a lot of hard work brings little gain. You must realize that to achieve financial growth, your money must first flow out in order to bring more in. You have anxieties over money because success comes slowly and as a result of hard work. Your shrewdness in business and buying enables you to save money for security in your old age, but you can be stingy and miserly. Possessions usually have lasting value, like land or art. If well aspected, financial security and easy acquisition of wealth in later years is due to prudence and far-sightedness in business. Your financial matters are orderly and sensible, but if afflicted, you may be materialistic, possessive and selfish. You may gain financially through your father, employer or those in authority. You're able to attract money, but unless you learn a lesson in values, you're apt to lose it as fast as it comes in.


Saturn in the 3rd House: Mentally, you're disciplined, methodical and practical, having scientific and mathematical ability. Your speech is deliberate and you're cautious about anything you sign. Your mind is penetrating and able to concentrate and, if well aspected, you use this and hard work to acquire specialized skills and training for career purposes. You often work in publishing, communications or any job that requires a lot of writing or telephoning. If afflicted, career ambitions can be thwarted by difficulties in obtaining or lack of opportunity to obtain an education or professional training. You're matter-of-fact, patient and tactful, but must overcome a tendency to be depressed or despondent. Your early life is apt to be unhappy, often due to responsibility of taking care of sibling(s) or neighbors. You have many ungrounded fears about anything that's new and, if afflicted, you tend to worry or think negatively, which may result in fault-finding or complaining. You judge ideas based on usefulness. Your lungs aren't strong, so don't smoke. You travel only if required for business. If afflicted, you often feel inadequate or picked on.


Saturn in the 4th House: Although you often have heavy responsibilities through your home and family, you feel emotionally isolated from them. You're very attached to your family (you may have a strong mother complex) and may cling to the past. You have great pride in your family ancestry. Your parents are often strict and conservative and may be a burden to you in later years. You seem independent, but fear leaving your parents, even though you'll be happier away from your family. Your profession often centers around real estate, building, contracting, agriculture and domestic products. If afflicted, you can be limited or unhappy in later years, and often become a recluse or a shut-in. You seek to preserve your home, property and inheritance to provide security in your later years. You must overcome selfishness and develop a good spiritual attitude to overcome these limitations. If afflicted, you have digestive problems due to excessive worry and emotionalism.


Saturn in the 5th House: You have ambition for power and leadership through creative self-expression but you're often too reserved to pursue these avenues. Your conservatism runs from art to speculation and investment. If well aspected, you can be organized and have a sense of structure in art and music and, if afflicted, you may experience financial loss through speculation. Your business or career often deals with speculation, school or places of entertainment. Children are often denied you (and it's not wise to adopt) or you may experience a difficult birth or have responsibilities with children. If heavily afflicted, you're unable to relate to children or are overly strict with them. You may become romantically involved with an older, mature person but the relationship is likely to involve heavy responsibility. If afflicted, you can be emotionally cold, unable to love and emotional blocks may cause sexual inhibitions or you may experience disappointments in or lack of romantic involvements. Self-consciousness blocks happiness and love: you must learn to give love in order to get love. Your father may be domineering, strict or difficult. Your circulation needs attention and heart must be kept in good condition.


Saturn in the 6th House: You take your work seriously and perform your tasks efficiently. Work or services you provide entail heavy responsibilities. If well aspected, your relationship with co-workers, employees and employers is congenial and you have their respect, but if afflicted, your demandingness strains these relations. You're a hard worker who's careful, exacting and reliable, but you shouldn't expect others to feel the same way. You sometimes feel indispensable and push yourself too hard, often at the expense of your health. Your career often involves some aspect of medicine, food, science or fields requiring skill and precision. You often acquire much specialized knowledge and many skills which you can use to gain financial stability. You realize your own self-worth, but must learn to assert yourself and blow your own horn. You take a serious attitude toward health, but if afflicted, chronic health problems and low vitality due to overwork or worry may limit employment opportunities. You have a careful, analytical mind, but can be nagging and irritated far too easily. You must learn to assimilate experience.


Saturn in the 7th House: You have a strong sense of responsibility and justice in all important relationships and public dealings. You establish your future welfare and improve your career by working hard and conscientiously in cooperation with others, but you often have problems relating to others. You often marry late in life or marry someone who is older, serious, mature and career oriented. If you marry early, you may have difficulties due to your lack of maturity. Marriage is often based on security rather than love. Your attitude towards the opposite sex is cautious. If afflicted, you tend to be inhibited, negative and critical in relationships, or your partner is cold, critical, obstructive, uncooperative and unloving. You're often forced in some way into relationships that entail responsibility. You often have organizing or management ability in business, but if afflicted, avoid business partnerships. Your profession often involves the law or the public. You're responsible and mature, but need time alone or your health may suffer. If afflicted, you have many lawsuits against you or suffer treachery from enemies.


Saturn in the 8th House: You're often involved in your partner's finances, corporate money, insurance, taxes or inheritance in some way that entails responsibility or, if afflicted, litigation. You must develop a sense of justice since you're accountable for others' property. If afflicted, you may be denied a rightful inheritance, have to pay heavy taxes, etc. You have deep spiritual insight into life's mysteries if well aspected to Uranus, Neptune or Pluto. If you lack spiritual values, you may fear death and, if afflicted, your death may be caused by a long-term illness. You may marry a poor person, creating a financial burden, and often have marital problems or financial problems in business. You may be restricted in your career due to lack of capital. Money doesn't come easy, but you know how to keep it when you get it. You have a strong sensuality that may need restraining or a serious, somewhat inhibited attitude to sex. You'll probably live to a ripe old age.


Saturn in the 9th House: You have a serious interest and seek personal distinction in higher education, philosophy and religion, You seek education at traditional institutions as a means of advancing social status and your career. Your business is likely to deal in education, law, publishing, religion and travel. You're good at detailed work and often seek positions of power in educational/religious institutions. You're apt to take long trips for business or for status. Your belief system is judged on its practical value to mankind and to social stability, especially in your early years, but you become more tolerant with age. Concern about your moral reputation makes you distrust new ideas and adhere to conservative and traditional religious and moral standards. If afflicted, you have a narrow-minded authoritarian attitude toward religion and morality. Your mind is deep, meditative, reflective and able to concentrate, but you may become mentally exhausted. Although you're fascinated by foreigners and foreign countries, you may experience frustration, loss or strained relations.


Saturn in the 10th House: You like, need and accept responsibility and have far-sighted organizational and managerial ability. Strong career ambitions allow you to achieve status, especially after age twenty-nine. If well aspected, you attain wealth, leadership roles and positions of authority due to hard work and moral integrity. You must use ambition and success as a means to serve the larger social order and use extreme caution concerning your principles or you're likely to incur heavy karmic debt. If afflicted, you may compromise your principles to advance your own ambitions, resulting in reversals of fortune, public disgrace and fall from high positions. If afflicted, you may experience obstacles, disappointments and lack of opportunity or security in your career. You're organized, persevering and self-reliant, but if afflicted, you can be arrogant and ruthless. You may lack a father figure or have parental problems.


Saturn in the 11th House: Although you have a sense of responsibility in friendships and group associations, you seek to know important and influential people who can help advance your own status and career. You often establish friendships with older, serious, career-minded people who help you mature. Your single minded concentration on objectives and reserved nature make it hard to get truly close to anyone. You need respect from peers more than love. If afflicted, you and your friends use each other for personal gain. If well aspected, loyalty and good advice are mutually beneficial when exchanged with friends and you realize you need to help others advance their interests equally with yours. If afflicted, you're either lonely and depressed or a show-off. You compensate for inner insecurities through hard work and constant involvement.


Saturn in the 12th House: You always seek (or wish) to isolate yourself, spending much time in seclusion or working behind the scenes in large institutions. If afflicted, this leaves you depressed and lonely. Your work may involve psychology or charities, but you're most creative when you work alone. It's hard to obtain recognition (unless well aspected to the ruler of or planets in the tenth house) and you often feel you're being threatened, but this actually stems from your own fears. You can overcome psychological problems by serving others or through practical, constructive work. The choice is yours: to serve or to suffer until you dissolve your deep-seated selfishness. If afflicted, secret enemies contribute to your downfall, but these enemies may be more imaginary than real. If heavily afflicted, you may suffer from mental illness or be confined in a hospital, jail, etc. If afflicted, your father may have faded out of your life early. You tend to keep your problems to yourself.

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Saturn in Aries (Fall): You're resourceful, able to evolve new methods in work and, if highly developed, your mental creativity can produce new concepts in your chosen field. Your mind is stable, able to concentrate and has strong reasoning power-- you love a good debate or argument-- but it may be difficult for you to recognize the rights of others or you may lack awareness of social principles. You're forced to cultivate initiative, patience and self-reliance before acquiring practical necessities, developing will and strength of character. You find it difficult to see yourself as others do and, if afflicted, can be very defensive, making it difficult to understand, communicate with or cooperate with others. Subconscious fears give you great desire for security and, if afflicted, you can be self-centered and constantly justifying your actions to yourself and others. You often limit yourself by overlooking others' needs or aspirations while fulfilling your own ambitions. You're reserved, acquisitive, often depressed and apt to be suspicious and distrustful. If afflicted, you can be impatient, irresponsible and superficial. You tend to do things alone, not asking for others help, which can cause headaches and a tendency to worry. You often lack diplomacy and a sense of timing. This placement imposes delays on your drive and energy and you often suffer from those in authority. You can have a father complex and women may have a jealous mate. You need physical exercise. The test of Saturn in Aries is that of avoiding or overcoming self-centeredness.


Saturn in Taurus: You have great stamina and persistence, but this can become extreme stubbornness. You're cautious, long-suffering, methodical, patient, practical, thrifty and your kindness is easily expressed but you can also be lethargic, thoughtless and lacking spontaneity. You have a strong need for emotional and financial security, so you save for future emergencies and old age. You're willing to work hard for success and apt to be persistent and reliable in work. You need discipline and hard work in order to acquire material possessions, and those you do acquire are practical and useful. You must guard against making material things too important: you must learn a true sense of values before you have peace. Practical day-to-day affairs must be in order for you to be happy. If afflicted, you can be avaricious, dour, lacking generosity, miserly, too materialistic and you may have difficulties through finances. Emotions are steady and well controlled, but you may lack warmth of expression. You're extremely possessive of loved ones and must overcome jealousy. You must learn proper use of your creative powers, especially sex and speech. The test of Saturn in Taurus is that of ownership: what you have no desire to possess, you have no fear of losing.


Saturn in Gemini: Your mind is steady and able to concentrate, penetrating deep into the meaning of life, as well as being adaptable, impartial and keen. You'd make a good teacher. Your intellectual ability is especially good in science and mathematics and you have a great capacity for problem solving, reasoning and writing. You're able to detach yourself, approaching matters coolly and rationally. If afflicted, you can be skeptical and cold. You view life with practical objectivity and judge ideas on their practical usefulness. If afflicted, you can be critical, doubtful and suspicious or may be shy and have trouble expressing yourself or may be a slow thinker. You're flexible in adapting to the practical needs of any situation, and are concerned about clarity in contracts and agreements. You like to study and will continue to learn throughout your life, although illness in your early years may cause late development. Your lungs are usually weak, so do not smoke. Guard against nervous strain and tension. You're not exceptionally close to relatives, and if afflicted, find it hard to relate to them. You must develop an honest approach to all relationships. If afflicted, you can be hardheaded, bitter and have a negative outlook on life. The test of Saturn in Gemini is to learn to have faith and an optimistic viewpoint.


Saturn in Cancer (Detriment): You're emotionally sensitive, but often hide your true feelings in order to maintain your dignity. Your feelings are easily hurt yet, since you can't really empathize with others, you often hurt their feelings too, leaving you feeling shy, lonely and isolated. Your early family environment and parental relationships are often austere, cold and problem-filled and you usually become estranged, often causing inhibited emotional expression. Despite this, you want respect for yourself and your family and take family responsibilities seriously. Your home life is often unstable and insecure, often due to financial strain. You need others' approval but do not always know how to get it. The lack of relationships can lead to your being alone in your old age. As much as you like to help others, you often fail, yet you usually see things through to the end. You have strong psychic tendencies and can be very shrewd and able in order to achieve material goals. If afflicted, you're emotionally hypersensitive, defensive, possessive of material goods and withdraw from close personal relationships. Care is needed in matters related to family interests. Your body metabolism is either unusually slow, causing weight problems and excessive water retention in your tissues, or poor, causing you to be under-nourished. The test of Saturn in Cancer is to learn the value of empathy and responsibility.


Saturn in Leo: You have tremendous drive for personal recognition and a need for control so you seek positions of leadership at any cost. You require attention and respect from others and feel a need to defend your ego. You can be haughty, jealous, self- assured, strong-willed and stubborn and if afflicted, you can also be dictatorial and too dogmatic. As a parent, you're a strict disciplinarian. You have mental vitality, but often lack a sense of humor. If afflicted, you're too cautious and reserved, and unless you learn to enjoy life, you can experience disappointment in love, problems with your children or lack/loss through speculation. You have a sense of honor and may have heart problems due to your great pride. You need to develop a better attitude in dealing with children, creative expression, love and romance. Your egotism and desire for power distort the universal laws and principles of justice. You often have professional interest in business, education, investments and managing entertainers. The test of Saturn in Leo is for love and true humility.


Saturn in Virgo: You're conscientious, fault-finding, practical, hard-working, exacting, methodical, prudent and tidy. You're concerned with accuracy, detail, efficiency and precision, especially in work, where you tend to drive yourself and others to overwork. If afflicted, you demand perfection from co-workers, employers and employees. Your mind is analytical, critical and orderly, but you often ignore major issues due to concern for detail. You're patient and precise in scientific experiment, analysis of the results, science and medicine (and related research) or any type of record keeping. You're a stickler for rules and regulations, so it may be hard for others to get along with you. You're often austere, depressed and gloomy due to heavy responsibility. Ill health, especially problems with your nerves and digestion, are due to overwork and worrying. Learn to relax and develop a sense of humor. Your attitude is conscientious and moral but, if afflicted, you tend to nag and have a fear of the unknown. You have difficulty is assimilating experience. The test of Saturn in Virgo is to learn discrimination.


Saturn in Libra (Exalted): You realize lasting accomplishment comes from discipline and responsibility and these in turn are derived from understanding that human relationships require ongoing cooperation, fair play and mutual commitment. You are socially aware and socially responsible and, if well aspected, you gain wealth and social status through your ability to work with others. If afflicted, you may suppress your need for partnerships and the loneliness that follows can cause deep depression. Marriage may be later in life or to someone who has serious and numerous business and professional responsibilities, and making it work requires hard work and patience. If afflicted, you can be unforgiving, unloving and irresponsible in any relationship. Contracts you enter into, including marriage, are often karmic. You have excellent organizing and planning skills, and your sense of justice and fair play is good for fields of law or mediation. If afflicted, you can be too exacting and tend to drive others at work and you tend to stick to the letter of the law rather than follow its intent. You're disciplined, impartial, philosophical, pleasant, responsible and serious. If afflicted, you over-commit yourself, causing overwork, or if you can't fulfill them, loss of status. The test of Saturn in Libra is one of relating to others (cooperation) and to life.


Saturn in Scorpio: Emotions are deep but suppressed and, if afflicted, you can be a schemer, plotting revenge for past emotional injuries you're unable to forget. You harbor deep resentment if you feel you're a victim of injustice. You accept responsibility with such serious emotional intensity it can become a burden. You must learn to deal with responsibility calmly. You're determined, persistent, subtle and thorough and often are inflexible and brooding. If afflicted, you can be cruel and ruthless. You have a magnetic personality, a biting sense of humor and an enormous drive for success. You're always trying to improve the status quo, exerting much energy and willpower on practical accomplishments. You have business and executive ability, which often deals with corporate finance, insurance and tax accounting. You're a perfectionist in your work and won't tolerate laziness or unwillingness to work. If afflicted, you often become involved in legal action involved with inheritances, joint finances and taxes, resulting in financial loss. You're resourceful, secretive and shrewd and want to be in a position of authority. You can adhere to your principles fanatically. You have psychic ability and a strong interest in the occult. Health problems usually involve constipation and calcification. The test of Saturn in Scorpio is learning to control your desires: until you do, you suffer much pain which acts as an emotional purifier.


Saturn in Sagittarius: You have/develop strict moral codes or strictly adhere to religious or philosophic systems. You want to be regarded as an authority or achieve some distinction in higher education, law, religion or philosophy. If afflicted, you can be self-righteous or try to impose religious/philosophic systems on others. You search for truth in personal conduct-- yours and others. You're disciplined, honest, fear-less, frank, intellectual, open and thorough and, if afflicted, you can also be careless, cynical, indecisive, indifferent, insincere, ostentatious, rebellious and tactless. You're capable of deep concentration, enabling you to make and follow long term plans and to put what you've learned to practical use. Your personal reputation is extremely important to you and you feel resentful if you're thought of or spoken of unjustly. You're apt to be outspoken and fearless if challenged. You have good scientific ability and keen intuition. You like to work with those limited or afflicted. Sometimes your popularity clashes with your need for seclusion. You may lack circulation in your lower extremities or have problems with your sacroiliac nerve, so you need physical exercise. Any faults you have are apt to be due to overdoing the wrong things or underdoing the right things. The test of Saturn in Sagittarius is of understanding on all levels.


Saturn in Capricorn (Dignified): You're ambitious, clear-sighted and cool-headed about material things, but if afflicted, you may use acquired wealth and resources to control others. You have a practical, down-to-earth viewpoint of the world and every endeavor undertaken must have a practical purpose. You usually must struggle to attain security in your early life, making you feel everyone must earn success. You're willing to work hard and sacrifice to succeed, but if afflicted, you may use unscrupulous means to achieve your success, causing your own downfall. If unevolved, prestige and status become important. You value family, pride and honor and have a strong sense of duty. You are conservative in business and politics, but if you allow your attitudes to become too rigid, your joints and bones may over-crystalize. Your dignified manner can make you appear cold and austere. You're able to accept orders from superiors, and expect those below you to do the same, but don't allow your love of power and desire for mastery over others to get out of hand. You're careful, calculating and a good organizer, but you can also be selfish and egotistical. If unafflicted, you have persistence and strength, but if afflicted, you can be serious, solitary and suspicious, giving you a feeling of loneliness and limitation that can be overcome by giving of yourself. You need to develop tolerance, sensitivity and a sense of humor. The test of Saturn in Capricorn lies in learning proper use of power.


Saturn in Aquarius: Your mind is impersonal, original and scientific and you're mentally ambitious, often working hard to create new ideas or find new applications in scientific or mathematical fields that will bring you distinction and service. You have good powers of concentration that you use to achieve objectives once you determine them. You're level-headed and independent, but if afflicted, you can be cunning, obstinate and vindictive. Social relationships are very important to you and you're often involved in highly structured social organizations. If well aspected, you have a sense of justice and responsibility in these relationships, but if afflicted, you may be selfish or domineering, expecting everyone to play by your rules, or you may be cold and emotionally insensitive. Impartial truth is of the utmost importance and it the basis for any advice that you give. If highly evolved, you're able to see all issues in light of the universal laws. You're able to quiet your mind and focus steady attention in order to develop intuitive faculties, but you must orient yourself to universal goals. This may be difficult if afflicted, since you resent doing things that don't please you. The test of Saturn in Aquarius is one of responsibility on all levels.


Saturn in Pisces: You have an overactive, fearful imagination that can cause neuroses and anxieties. If afflicted, you can be paranoid, excessively worrisome and fretful and too regretful over past mistakes/misfortunes which can result in institutionalization if taken too far. You must learn to objectively criticize and self-analyze past mistakes so you can release them and move on constructively after learning from them. You take life too seriously and react emotionally, often identifying personally with others' problems. You tend to become trapped in memories of the past and have difficulty dealing with the demands of the present. You tend to underestimate your own self-worth and, if afflicted, must avoid a tendency to be filled with self-pity. You need quiet and solitude at times in order to tap inner resources, but you must actively participate in affairs of the world to avoid excessive introversion. You can be emotionally understanding, humble and willing to work hard for those less fortunate. You may possibly have insight into the psychological make-up of others. If well aspected, you're capable of deep meditation and profound spiritual understanding. You often work behind the scenes in large institutions of medicine, education and government. The test of Saturn in Pisces is one of severance: let go and let God.

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Thanks Pidaua!!

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saturn in cancer, 1st house..

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Virgo in 12th.

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Cool Pid

Here, as promised, is a bit of what Liz Greene wrote about each House & Planet placement. I'm going to start with the 11th House b/c that's what I told 1scorp I'd do, but I'll do the others as well starting from the 1st/Sat in Aries and working my way up. Again, this is just a little of what she says; if you haven't read this book, it's worthwhile:

Saturn in Aquarius and the Eleventh House
...The more ordinary meaning of the eleventh house is often in evidence with its connotation of friendships and social acceptance, and Saturn in the 11th may display his usual aloofeness and isolation and thereby mark the individual as a "lone wolf", one who somehow does not fit into the group. He may find difficulty in making casual friendships and in functioning at the more superficial social level which, in our present society, is considered of such value. He may feel himself to be an outsider and will often behave as one, and his separateness is deeper than a mere inability to conform to popular standards of behavior...
...(Saturn's) presence in the 11th house is made doubly difficult because the nature of our present ideas about friendship and group activities can be eminently superficial...
...He is looking for another kind of group, a deeper group, but her rarely understands that the bounds which link this more abtruse group are of an inner, not an outer, nature...
...Thus the usual effect of Saturn in the 11th is a deep, although often concealed, feeling of loneliness...
...The person (with this placement) is often compusively drawn to be alone, and he may draw back from friendships because he is afraid he will not be accepted...
...it is probably more painful to carry the sense of separateness into a crowd than to be physically alone yet experience a sense of belonging...
...Overcompensation is often expressed by this Saturnian placement, and it is common to find the individual who crams his life full of social activities so that he scarcely has time to be alone...
...Saturn in the 11th may sometimes symbolise this kind of social butterfly in the same way that Saturn in the 3rd may suggest a chatterer and Saturn in the 7th a perpetual Don Juan...
...the understanding of the psychology of the group and the direction in which man's consciousness is slowly striving is an understanding which can be the inner illumination of the individual who has Saturn in Aqua or in the 11th...
...To the discerning eye of the 11th house Saturn, it is possible that the reality and nature of (the plan for Mankind) may become visible if he seeks long enough and deep enough the inner group which means so much to him.
If he permits his vision to be narrow, Saturn will rarely find the solution to his isolation, and we may well then observe the fulfillment of the prophesy of hard luck through friends which is said to accompany this placement.

Saturn in Aries and the First House
...Saturn's traditional associations with crystallisation and identification with mundane values suggests that one of the most frequent psychic effects of this position, if left unconscious, is the crystallisation of and identification with one's mask, with a consequent inner vulnerability to moods and effects and a great difficulty eppxressing the inner person to the outer world. The mask becomes a prison and cannot be torn away; and behind it the man slowly suffocates.
...There is often a need to enforce one's will and to control the immediate environment; but rather than being the spontaneous and self-confident assertion of the individual, this is more of a defensive maneuvre which sometimes attempts to attack first b/c it is fearful of attack...
...It is common with a first house Saturn for the individual to learn from childhood that it is costly to get too involved with life, and there is a basic weakness in the persona which causes him to identify both too much and too little with the outward shell of his personality. He is therefore vulnerable to attack and control from the outside and knows it; and much of his life may be spent in devising ways of protecting himself so that the extent of his vulnerability is not discovered...
...Saturn in the first house often feels that he is never able to have what he wants, that life is forever thwarting his desires...
As he comes to terms with...the shadowy and powerful aspect of his (will) - for the person with Saturn placed here has a powerful controlled will if he choses to recognise and utilise it - he generally finds that along with his frustration he has also learned control over his desire nature has shaped his personality into a disciplined tool...
...the controlled and directed will, coupled with a sense of purpose, is one of the more positive qualities offered by Saturn in the first house...
...(The fear of inadequacy in the face of powerlessness) can prod the individual into a deeper exploration of what he considers to be his identity. Saturn in the house of identity is closely connected with this search which can help to yield greater knowledge, greater integration, and the greater and more productive use of will.


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Thanks Pidaua! I seen some things in those descriptions.

Prox: You are sweet for doing that
Take your time... you don't have to rush.

I like seeing all different opinions.

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Mine is in Aquarius in the 8th.
I see quite a bit of myS-elf in those descriptions. Just glad it's not afflicted!

My sweetie's is in Pisces in the 10th.
Probs with Dad? Fearful and neurotic? Oh yeah.

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