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pidaua
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posted June 06, 2003 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, so I may be a Sag and we are known for being outgoing, energetic, somewhat annoying and we like to offer our opinions ALOT!

BUT, we are not known for telling our sob stories or getting personal with other people, nor do we like when people try to close to our emotions.

SO, there is a point to this. The Big CEO - Taurus, who has made it his past time for the last year to use me as his whipping post, challenging me on every point and at times getting angry because he can't break me, wants to take me out to dinner with him and his wife.

Now, I find out the real motivation is that he wants to give me a chance to "open" up over the break up of my marriage to the Virgo (ancient history mind you), so that I can feel that he cares. First off, I do not let my private emotions get into my working life. Hell, no one here even knew I was having problems with the cold as ice Virgo nor do they know about my Hot as hell relationship with the Leo.

Sooooooo, astrologically what do you think I am in for?

He is a Taurus with a cappy moon, and I totally doubt that he or his Cappy wife give a crap about my emotional well being.

Needless to say, I AM DREADING THIS DINNER!!!

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1scorp
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posted June 06, 2003 03:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That just sounds strange. I mean, if he's just a working partner...

I can't say as I blame you! Why would you have to go into detail regarding your personal life with this guy?

Astrology wise I don't have a clue. That's just my opinion on the subject.

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lioneye68
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posted June 06, 2003 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's odd. Could it be that he senses animosity from you, and wants to try to have a better relationship with you? Bringing his wife may be just so you don't get the wrong idea of his intentions, or maybe he tells his wife all about what goes on at work, and it was HER idea to do this? Or, maybe he has a very jealous wife, and she would only allow this if she came too. Or...maybe they want to see if you're interested in a threesome with them! (that happened to ME once...I declined)

Actually, my bet would be that he's uncomfortable with the animosity and he just wants to mend whatever harm he's done. Taurus's sometimes regret their bullish behavior, and the guilt eats away at them. But do you think they stop and think about it before they do it again. Nope. They can't help it. They're Bulls. They have to do and say what feels honest to them at the moment. (not unlike Saggies)

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sisterchasingmoon
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posted June 06, 2003 03:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua~
Being the Scorp that I am I would be wondering what the real motive is here? I dont give away too much info either but if it were me, I would go and only give enough info to win over the wife!
That way whatever the "real" motive is for him, you will have her as a cushion, so to speak!
Goodluck that sounds like a miserable dinner

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sthenri
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posted June 06, 2003 04:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would talk to the wife too, charm her and he will be happy with that. Taurus does not usually need a lot of personal attention. Guilt is a big issue with Taurus and he may feel obligated. Cappy moon does not like emotional displays, so I would be cool, but not funny or warm. Hard for a Sag, simply do not state any opinions on anything and urge the wife to talk. Taurus is not too talky they like to listen. Cappy moons are hard to handle for me because I am pretty emotional. Taurus simply is a guilt monger and wants to get over that. Maybe his wife is behind this? Don't drink, speaking from experience.

Let the Taurus eat dessert so he feels nice and guilty and watch his every bite. Fill him up with dessert and drinks but too many drinks.,

Natasha

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pidaua
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posted June 06, 2003 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI all,

I should give a bit of info on this. He and his wife are in their 80's and both work for the company. They run the company and are known for being ruthless and not fair people. I used to be close to both of them and they even went to my wedding years ago, but when he discovered he couldn't break me, then things took a downturn.

Hmmm, well it looks like it was canceled, but a rain check is in place for next week. Ahhh, better to have the dinner during a Libra or Scorpio moon than when it goes into Virgo, at least for me.


Also, I cannot hide my true opinionated nature. He is one of my direct bosses and we have had to debate over scientific protocols and other such things in our work. He knows where I stand on many issues, which he admires, but it also bothers him when I am stubborn. LOL
As for a threesome....ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, we're talking serious old raisens here!!! LOL

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lioneye68
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posted June 06, 2003 04:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Everybody needs a little lovin' now and then

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sthenri
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posted June 06, 2003 04:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really can't stand company dinners, I say that I prefer to separate work from my private life and I do not like to discuss work while eating because it upsets my stomach and interferes with the enjoyment of the evening, and I know it does the same to others,

They may make this a regular habit,

Take Care,
Natasha

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Lunargirl
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posted June 07, 2003 12:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All you can try to do is be totally professional, charming personally, and deflect, deflect, deflect!

How did you learn his motive is to use the topic of your divorce as a tool for 'reconciliation'? He told you this?

Probably they look at you as some 'wayward' daughter or granddaughter-figure -- oo wee, would that make ME boil! Oh well -- do you have good HR support you could go to talk to about how to handle the dinner? I'm serious-- because whether this couple is trying to be kind to you, patronizing you, or ganging up on you (and let's hope this -- that they mainly want to set things RIGHT with you ), the professional and personal lines are way too blurred. I guess it comes with the territory when employers treat you like family-- at least you know they must admire you on some level.

BTW, are they early Taurus and Cap? Maybe Lanny could comment on whether this dinner is some kind of Saturn in Cancer opportunity for you all.

cheers,
Lunargirl

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pidaua
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posted June 09, 2003 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

Well, sorry it has taken me so long. I was busy this weekend and just now got some time to post on this list.

The CEO is a pretty okay kind of person, or else I thought he was. He is pretty much of the mind set that people under the age of 60 are just a waste of space and that most women should never be in a position of authority. (He is an old fashioned, stubborn Taurus). I know he wanted to pick my brain because he made it known to 2-3 people and the CFO that he wanted me to open up emotionally concerning my divorce.

Anyway, I now have to have to dinner with them on Thursday. I don't mind so much, but I have a hard time being friendly to people that are extremely mean to me. At one time, he tried to blame me for my managers mistakes and went so far as to try to force me to sign off on them and accept full responsibility. I, being even more stubborn, did not do it and told him that I would hate to get lawyers involved since it is a direct violation to make an employee accept responsibility for their supervisors actions, especially when that supervisor was laid off, with a golden parachute, bonus and glowing recommendation. In other words they wanted to blame someone and thought that since I was "vulnerable" I would take the fall.

LOL.....not in a million years.

So, I will keep you all updated on what is up.

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Lost Leo
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posted June 09, 2003 08:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pid, sounds to me like you got it covered!

You understand him, you are ready for any surprises, and you are aware that their may be an alterior motive, you'll do fine!

Although it may be a crappy dinner... good luck!

Lioneye: Wait.. they did wha? How did you respond to that!

The same thing happened to me...
It was my Scorp buddy... and his Virgo lady... He asked, of anyone in the group who do you want, she said me... and he took it upon himself to solicit the proposal onto me...

The first time I was sober and shocked and said, "You want me to what?"
The second I was a bit more vulnerable, as I had been partying in rockstar style all night... tried to get me to come to his pad with her... Freaked me out!

He had a hard time understanding that I don't think we could be friends after something like that
And in true Scorp fashion he was like, well I only wanted it for her full sexual satisfaction... some of the things he mentioned trying we straight out of a porn movie...

Now they're married and have a kid, thank God someone had a level-head about that

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1scorp
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posted June 09, 2003 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yo Leo, I believe you're confusing me with Lion. Never had the threesome offer before. Get your head out of the gutter man!

Good luck Pidaua... keep us up to date.

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Lost Leo
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posted June 09, 2003 08:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops, I corrected myself, thx...

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lioneye68
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posted June 09, 2003 11:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey! 1scorp stop trying to plagerize me! j/k

Yeah, my response was very simular to yours, Leo. It would be too weird after. It was my room mate from Quebec, this crazy French chick. I lived with her for 5 years, and watched her sleep her way through town, then it turned out she decided she was a lesbian and in love with ME! She was a Taurus , and very posessive of me. (I should have clued in, but duh.)She moved back to Quebec after our second fist fight. Yeah, crazy as$ $hit like that went on. She brought out the worst in me. Definately some unfinished Karmic business there or something.

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Lost Leo
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posted June 10, 2003 01:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What!?! Two fist fights...?
You certainly are becoming quite an interesting lady...

May I ask who won?

The charging bull or the fierce Lioness?

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 01:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who do YOU think?

I'm not proud of it, but she knew her place after it happened. At least temporarily.

Believe it or not, I'm not a violent person at all. Only 3 people have ever driven me to violence, and the funny thing is, they were all Taurus's.

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It doesn't help that Taurus squares just about everything about me, and I'm starting to suspect it opposes my ascendant.

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Lost Leo
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posted June 10, 2003 12:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You go girl!

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 01:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going!

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pidaua
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posted June 10, 2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye,

You have a Saggie ASC don't you?

Pidaua

1Scorp and LL,

Yeah, I will keep an eye on Mr. Taurus. Funny, it seems he is already turning on our new Pres / Division CEO the Aquarius. I knew that was only going to be a matter of time. Mr. Aqua is a pathological liar and kind of a spaz. I am not sure how we pick them. LOL...but what it is they say "Keep your friends close and your enemies Closer."

I guess it is safe to say that although I am a carefree Sag, I do have Pluto in my first house conjuncting my ASC which does lend it's own kind of Scorpian sting.

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1scorp
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posted June 10, 2003 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lion, put a copyright on it

Pidaua: I'm going to copy Leo's remark to Lion.... YOU GO GIRL!

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 02:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Like I told LL, I'm GOING!!

Pidaua, did you want me to come and kick that bull's toilet apparatus?

Oh, I guess it's not nice to beat up seniors. Ok, or anyone for that matter.

Yeah, my ascendant is Saggie if my birth time of 3:40pm is correct. But we don't know for sure. And the description of Sag. Asc. doesn't really nail me. Or does it? I don't know anymore.

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pidaua
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posted June 10, 2003 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sag Ascendent:

You're breezy, outgoing and extroverted, but you often lack concentration and may be superficial unless Jupiter is well placed. You have many acquaintances but few friends. You're very talkative, direct and to the point, but you need diplomacy and tact. You're very restless and love to travel and be on the move. You love horses and the out-doors and you have an inclination towards philosophy and religion. You make a good executive, but women lack femininity and quietness. You're often tall with small shoulders and big hips. You tend to put on weight in your middle years.

Sag in the first house:

You project yourself with optimism and you appear interested and jovial, but you tend to take things for granted and think about things from your frame of reference. You're able to influence others to a system of thinking that's arranged to give you all the advantages and since your ambitions are geared to large-scale goals, so you may use this ability selfishly. You find any restriction hard to take and you often scatter your energies due to lack of concentration. You often procrastinate. You have a keen sense of humor and love to have a good time. Your strong desire to please others leads to impulsive promises which you often fail to keep, giving you a reputation for being unreliable, which you usually are unless Saturn is strong. You experience a definite spiritual change in later life.


Sooooo, tell me, does that sound like you? Also, keep in mind that your ASC is what is projected when you first meet people and really demonstrated when you are a child. For me, I can really see my Virgo ASC at work when I am new to an environment and even when I was a kid. I take in all the details and appear quite reserved....then when I am comfortable....here comes the She-Devil: Well, okay, maybe more like the Mischevious Archer. LOL

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 03:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes and no. And thank you for posting that, in your own thread that has nothing to do with my ascendant. You're cool, Pidaua.

The details thing. Definately. But that's a quality shared by Leos as well, and well, I got a truck-load of Leo in my chart. Someone suggested that when your big three placements blend very harmoniously together, it's hard to distinguish where one ends and the other begins. That could be why I feel so ambigious about my ascendant. But I'm not very tall, 5.4 only, and I'm pretty darn feminine in appearence. I mean I'm certainly not "boyish" or "butchy".
And I'm not really blunt like an archer. In fact, I have to work on my assertiveness skills. (no, really)

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pidaua
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posted June 10, 2003 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most Leo's that I know are very organized. They like things pretty tidy, but can also tolerate messes to a point. The Lion's Den should be neat and comfortable for the regal kitties.

Sagittarians are also known for having long legs and especially long thigh bones. I can attest to this because my legs are pretty damn long. I am 5'9" and my legs from heel to hip make up about 45 inches. No wonder I have a tendancy to trip over myself. LOL

I have not known many "butchy" Sag's and have known more of the ones that tend to be really foo foo regarding make up and stuff, but very competitive and sports oriented.

I have always loved sports from soccer to softball and swimming, to playing football, hiking and vollyball. BUT, I still have my hair done as well as my makeup. LOL

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