posted June 17, 2003 08:15 PM              

All this commitment talk... sheez...

I just like someone that'll talk when they need to and stay quiet the rest of the time!

posted June 17, 2003 10:50 PM              

I feel it's hard to do that to someone else because I am not what they are looking for. Most men looking for a fling are emotionally vulnerable whether they admit it or not.

I think it's good to get clear whether or not romance is involved or a friendship, there is such a double standard for women, and it's not easy to be just friends with a man.

posted June 18, 2003 01:16 AM              

Natasha, How do you figure? Honestly, I'm curious to see your point of view, how do you figure?

posted June 18, 2003 10:27 AM              

Well . . . the sELF is different behind closed doors It's a fourth house thing, in contrast to the 1st, and/or the 7th & 10th in your case.

Your ethics with work and private life sounds a lot like my Ex. I am beginning to think it's a trait with Virgo Rising, because Pisces is on the 7th (in most cases), there could be a natural tendency to entertain with illusions (because it's fun, I would do it too, hehe) and mincing details to the public with the MC Gemini. Funny stuff

Randall is Virgo Rising too . . .

My Ex is a Pisces

posted June 18, 2003 12:17 PM              

Men who are looking for a sexual fling unconciously or not are not aware of what they want, they only know they don't want to think about it too much. That instantly leaves one open to all sorts of manipulation. You have to see where a man is coming from like this, imagine, he is running away from a bad experience, instead of running to another situation where there is love or hate, he is running away to nowhere.
Then the women gets emotional and he confuses that with responsibility and runs away from it. Then the relationship is just about sex, no strings and then it gets boring and the man wants more, pretty soon every one is tense and emotionally vulnerable. Women fall in love easily and that is an escape too, some women become addicted to falling in love and some men become addicted to making women fall in love with them, and stay and are miserable and make the women miserable too.

Sounds lovely huh?

Well, the plan is to have a plan in the first place, look at your own motivations when starting a fling, is it to get back at an ex? Is it because she looks like your ex? If you are angry at your ex, write down what you anger would look like if it had a face, what is it good for what does it mean? Then write down what happiness would look like? Usually it spells it out for you right there.

Anyway I am back from therapy so I am unusually centered today

posted June 18, 2003 12:21 PM              

i see myself in what you just wrote. and thought, "what am i hiding from?" and "what am i covering up with?" those questions are great inner probes you put down for us. lots of layers upon layers.

i am running from my ex is a huge part.

posted June 18, 2003 02:43 PM            

So, how was it being an Aries with a Pisces man? I really, really enjoyed my Pisces ex. He was sweet and charming, but not very spontaneous.

I do think the behind close doors things fits because of the 4th house. Both Mr. Leo and I have our Sun in our 4th houses, so how we are behind the scenes is so much different than in public.

Lioneye,

It's okay, I understand what you are saying and I thought alot about it last night and this am. I think one of the strong reasons I wait until I am sure, is that when I care for someone, it affects me on a profound level. I have very strong empathetic tendancies and can feel what they are feeling - at times it can be overwhelming and I do need to just run. On any given day I have 2-5 people stopping in my office to tell me their problems (I love to listen and help) but then it stays with me and I have to find a way to release the energy (usually my meditating).

Also, like so many people, I have a fear of being vulnerable or weak. At times I find certain emotions to be a sign of weakness (right or wrong, it's probably my Aries moon).

Natasha,

You're so right. I have found men with the Taurus rising to be so incredible sensual. I absolutely love their "gaze". They all seem to have those larger eyes, soft and sexy!

posted June 18, 2003 03:18 PM              

It was hard on me, and I am never going back. That's all I have to say about that, for now.