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Bissie
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posted June 10, 2003 01:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey sweethearts,

I am currently researching synastries.
My question is - do you happen to be involved, or if you know other people involved, in a some sort of dengerously passionate affair. That type of affair where you dont give a damn about the circumstances and follow your heart despite everything. When you loved so much, it hurted. When you tried to move on and get on with your life, but couldn`t.

have you experienced this? I would be curiouse to check out that synastry....not giving a reading, just making a research.

thanks

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lioneye68
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posted June 10, 2003 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean a relationship where our heart got broken, and we never quite recovered?

Sheesh, everyone has a story like that to tell, I would think.

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1scorp
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posted June 10, 2003 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Except this one girl I wish I would feel like that! No, not really. It scares me to think that.

I can honestly say that I've never gotten that emotionally attached to a mate.

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pidaua
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posted June 10, 2003 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is a guy that I am friends with, but there was this strange attraction, hatred, desire, etc.... it blew up in our faces, but now we are friends. It may be that we both had Pluto in our first house, both conjuncting our ascendents.

Here is my data:

December 16, 1969 11:45pm Artesia, CA

His:

September 9, 1966 6:49am Silver Spring, MD


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Bissie
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posted June 10, 2003 07:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1Scorp,

its because you have too much Scorpio in you -always in control of your emotions, and if you let them out.......then I will need to listen to your story

I think the ones who have experienced such amazing love passion are Neptunian people - (a prominent Neptune in their chart)....these folks simply love to suffer in love and are overly romantic.

a friend of mine, with Pisces Rising, was so destroyed after his wife left him for another man - he was hospitalized and lost about 40 pounds. 10 years later - he still think about her every day........
and still hopes she will be back some day

oh well, I need to listen to some passionate love story now....
where are you Romeo and Juliette........

P.S. thanks, Pidua

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Oxychick
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posted June 10, 2003 09:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie...I could give you birth times of a couple where the husband has a Pisces rising and apparently has severe episodes like that. If you're really interested, e-mail me at my moderator e-mail addy.

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Twin Lady
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posted June 10, 2003 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah, yes...I've got Pisces Rising...and Neptune in my 7th. When I first found out my ex husband was cheating I could not eat for a week and lost 16 pounds. So he told me if I didn't eat he'd take me to the hospital to be fed intravenously. Altogether I lost a total of 40 pounds, and 13 years later it still takes very little to make me cry if I allow myself to remember. Having Venus in Taurus doesn't help.

BUT...the good thing about Pisces Rising is my spirituality; being able to look at the big picture and believing we had karma that had to be balanced. I am also grateful for my Gem Sun and Mercury because over time I have analyzed the experience and learned from it. The combined spirituality and thinking things through have enabled me to hold on to my sanity and discover a strength I otherwise would not have known I possess. I think my Scorp Moon has aided me here too.

Still...I was profoundly hurt, and guard my heart carefully now. Maybe one day I'll love again, but I will never be that "innocent" (or naive) again, ever.

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Lunargirl
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posted June 11, 2003 12:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Pluto and Neptune theories make a lot of sense.

I just want to add that in several charts I've seen, a Moon/Saturn square often seems to indicate a confusion between suffering and love, or the expectation that true love means having to suffer. Often this is rooted in parental issues. When it appears in a male's chart, they have mother issues. In one case it became clear when I met the family that the problem also had roots in that the quiet, polite mother just didn't like her son very much, and so he hadn't acknowledged it to himself on a conscious level, but kept seeking out traumatic relationships or creating conditions of suffering if they were absent.

But this is more of a frustration aspect and on its own doesn't lead to great self-immolation on the Pyre of Love.

Lunargirl

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Nebel
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posted June 11, 2003 02:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Biss How are you doin?

Well... since you have asked - i think i have a perfect relationship to fit that description... In love with an older man - that BLOODY AQUARIUS! (No offence to other aquarians intended!), he isn't ready - then is... he breaks my heart but i love him even more than when i first met him... i cross the ocean to be away from him - then race back to be by his side... i am told umpteen time by everyone (Including you!) to keep away from him but my heart just says 'be patient - he will come around'...

Try and figure THIS one out!

Him: 16th Feb 1963, Hamilton, Australia at 11.30pm.
Me: 4th May 1981, Geelong, Australia at 7.30am.

Take care Biss - i hope this can help
LOL
Nebel

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hrj777
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posted June 11, 2003 03:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bissie,

This relationship was intense, passionate but very destructive. I don't want to elaborate in a public forum but I would be happy to answer your questions via email if you have any. Just ask Randall for my email address.

Female - 01/16/66 05:09 AM, Melbourne, Australia

Male - 03/27/69, 05:36 PM, San Francisco, CA

Good luck with your reaserch. I do a lot of research on synastry too.

Love and Light,

Heidi

PS. Working on one right now that may turn out to be twin s-elves. If it works out I will definitely let you know about it.

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morgana
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posted June 11, 2003 04:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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1scorp
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posted June 11, 2003 09:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww... Twin. It's those lessons we have to learn. Seems to always take that wide eyed innocence from us.

Bissie: You're right. I think all these placements have made me a bit cold really. I keep a little detachment between myself and who-ever. I don't think they notice it... however, it's there.

I don't allow myself to get too wrapped up.

Also, I have a retrograde venus. So I wonder if that contributes to it?

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sthenri
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posted June 11, 2003 09:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nebel, it's that Taurus Aquarius thing going on, been there myself...Turn on your emotions, they are good for both of you even if he is a little scared. You can't change another person, or make that person feel more secure, it comes from inside.

Good Luck,
Natasha

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Bissie
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posted June 11, 2003 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aww, how nice to hear from all of you, guys

I am at work now and don`t have astro software neraby, but I am going to check out those charts you provided. I am so very curiouse to see what causes the great but destructive passion between two people (aside form the free will, I understand that).


oh, Twinlady, you took it to much to heart, remember - we do not possess other people, and marriage doesnt authomaticly make us the master of their domain. I guess you were hurt not that much because he had sex with anotehr woman, but because you thought he loved her. Then it really hurts. But let it go....


hrj777,

you got me curiouse now, you know that...

what are the aspects that lead you to believe that the couple you are researching now are twins?
Please, share some thoughts on your synastry research with us, I am most willing to hear of another person`s findings, rather then to just read the cook-books.
What are the most frequently seen aspects in deeply involved couples? How about in sexually obsessed couples? Have you found something interesting there?


hey you, Nebel,

yours is a typical case of great but destructive passion. I feel you and I am thinking about you sometimes, wondering what is going on with you and your beloved Aqua man....Where is your relationship with him at now? Still as before, a little better or gettin worse? Hope you both will find a solution and find enough strenth to look at each other and say what are your fears so you can sort them out.
P.S. forgot to tell you that I never ever have seen such a taurus like yourself - you have Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, mars and ASC in taurus, all at a close degree. A-amazing!! And your guy squares with his Mars and Saturn all that bull energy. oh my my


Bissie

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Nerwin
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posted June 11, 2003 02:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, i definitely had such an experience.. its a long story but we both ended up getting hurt. When i was with him, i cared about nothing but him, I put my life on hold, i risked everything just to be with him. I still havent gotten over him and the dimmest memory makes me cry like I have nothing left to live for. I feel as if Im a bit masochistic, like Im always looking at something that reminds me of him and i just sit and sob. Its pretty pathetic actually.
I learned my lesson after him though, and now my heart is behind locked doors, and I'm not planning on giveing anyone the keys.
I don't know if hes over me, but I know that while we were together he just made it all very difficult, and tortured himself over so many things that we could have worked out, like he was enjoying the drama.

My birth date: March 7 1982, 4:00 a.m, Kuwait City, Kuwait (pisces)

His birthdate: September 18 1979, Kuwait City, Kuwait (virgo) dunno the time but i know we both have our moons in leo

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gladeyes
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posted June 11, 2003 05:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bissie

If you want to look at another one

me 25 feb 1956 12:05 pm Blackburn England
him 6 November 1962 4:10 pm London England

I don't know what kind of relationship we have, he confuses me but I feel very strongly about him

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Oxychick
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posted June 11, 2003 09:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you mind if we don;t have the birth time?

Here's One: (f) Feb. 10, 1979 @12:03PM New York

(m) Jan. 27, 1979 New York I THINK somewhere late at night..but I'm not sure.

That definitely fits what you're looking for.

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Bissie
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posted June 11, 2003 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oxy darlin,
and what`s the story behind these two love birds? Are these the same people you mentioned before or another couple?

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hrj777
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posted June 12, 2003 03:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bissie,

I can't really give you any info about the twin s-elves because I have never seen a chart of twin s-elves before. This is a hunch and I will only be sure of it in time.

With regard to the aspects between deeply involved and sexually obsessed couples, I found the obvious which is pluto aspecting the personal planets of the other person's chart. Also, a lot of strong Saturn ties.

I honestly get more information about a relationship from a composite chart using midpoints. The particular composite chart of the couple I mentioned above has Neptune in Scorpio exactly conjunct the Ascendant. That pretty much describes the big picture of that relationship to a T!

Good luck with your research! Feel free to ask Randall for my email address if you want the scoop!

Love and Light,

Heidi

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Oxychick
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posted June 12, 2003 06:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not lovebirds any more! lol No not the same people. The other couple (still together): (f) 7/20/74 3:25PM, NY. (m) 11/21/73 1:04PM NY.

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Daphne
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posted June 12, 2003 07:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bissie,
Many years ago when I was married to someone else, I went to a club and met a man there. In the first 10 seconds, I knew he was my first and only true love. I left my husband several weeks later to be free to pursue him. Turns out, I scared the living daylights out of him. After 4 months of *friendship* I left town, broken-hearted. I married again and now, 20 years later, I ran into him on the net and my feelings for him are stronger than before. I am afraid to see him again. How crazy is that? He never married and we really enjoy writing to each other but I have always wondered what the deal is with us. Do you know?
me Nov 2, 1955 at 12:17am CST
him Sep 11, 1951 at 7:45pm CET

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mutablefire
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posted June 12, 2003 06:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't really had that many romantic relationships so that I would qualify to make a statement on the topic and am in fact still legally married but and have been for almost 25 years but it's my opinion that we never really get over anybody we truly cared for whether the relationship was lengthy or brief, or even if it became physical or not we still carry them withus a corner of our hearts.

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Nebel
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posted June 24, 2003 11:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Heya Biss How are you doin? Good I hope?

Thanks very much for your thoughts - God knows i need some extra strength sometimes I actually moved interstate to be away from my Aqua man, cut phone and eMail ties - even started another relationship (Which was HORRIBLE! (God only knows why I attracted HIM into my life ... even so I missed my Aqua man more than ever, got really sick with lonliness - moved back home JUST TO SEE HIM (Even though i had a new job, new friends, a new house in my new city)... we tried AGAIN... lasted about three weeks. He told me i could only stay if i 'didn't smother him', wasn't affectionate towards him, 'gave him space' - what typical Aquarian statements! He eventually told me that he 'wasn't ready for a relationship' with me, and 'just wants to be friends'. Now here i am - back home with Dad to help heal myself AGAIN - tryin to work out if I should keep trying or move on... Gee I'm stubbourn! (Must be all that Bull in me

Take Care Biss
LOL
Nebel
P.S. And I love him more than ever! How STUPID is that!!!

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WychOfAvalon
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posted June 25, 2003 02:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
definately...
my ex fiance. I'm an Aries he's a Capricorn. We had a love/hate relationship. Still do even though we broke up 10 years ago.

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hello my love, here's to your heart ..release that dream into the world ..join in the air race, leaving tonite ..how does it feel to follow the light? beautiful dreamer, it's up to you if we glide through the glamour of love ..we believe in our dreams reaching out for love

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hrj777
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posted June 25, 2003 07:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi WychOfAvalon,

I know all about that love/hate thing ... I'm a Capricorn and my ex was an Aries. It was such an unbalanced relationship. We were either inseparable or couldn't stand the sight of each other. Never anything in-between.

Love and Light,

Heidi

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