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taj
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posted June 26, 2003 08:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you know this book? copyright 1989.

was browsing at my fave bookstore and saw it.

discusses aspects between signs. (no mention of orbs.)

tis compiled and edited by a crystal bush and comes with a companion text by a c... reynolds.

wasn't sure how much of it was LG's writing until i happened on a quoted reference to Star Signs... that gave me an idea of the sections of the book that are LG's.

her writing's quirkily witty.
the chortles kept coming fast, i tell you.

will share some later.

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anafaery
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posted June 26, 2003 09:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ooooh i feel thats a hot topic here. this thread will have the flamy thing on the file folder thing in no time, im sure.

as far as relationship signs, i appreciate it for what it is, but i dont feel its linda. i dont trust the book as i trusted her others (barring star signs, i couldnt believe a lot of the things in it, and thats just me, no offense and i dont want to start anything here).

it has wisdom, but as for what is really lindas and what isnt? she could have written 10 pages, she could have written 10000. theres no way of knowing, so i dont read that book thinking its wisdom straight from linda. i take it with a grain of salt, because its been 'sifted' somewhat.

it kind of bothered me that they never explained what was linda and what was 'enhanced'. or else they did and i didnt see it. *shrugs*

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taj
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posted June 26, 2003 09:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"i take it with a grain of salt, because its been 'sifted' somewhat...it kind of bothered me that they never explained what was linda"

what have you done, anafaery ?
you've come and jiggled... nope, prodded with a stick, that teeny weeny niggle of a doubt!

yep, if only we could be assured of the parts which were LG's...

i did check their website to ask but it's under construction.

anyways, let me share some and see what everyone else's thinks...whether it sounds "Linda" at all.


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anafaery
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posted June 26, 2003 09:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that seems to be my mission in life, taj. sometimes it makes for a lonely life. most people dont like their beliefs shaken, and tend to fear me for what i dare to question.

ah well, curiosity killed the cat, but satisfaction brought it back, ne?

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hrj777
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posted June 26, 2003 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taj,

If you review some of the older threads you'll find there are a number of them discussing "Relationship Signs". I think the majority of people feel the same way about this books.

Take a look for yourself ... it has been a very hot topic in the past.

Heidi

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Lost Leo
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posted June 26, 2003 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wasn't it copyrighted in 1998?

Really, a hot topic before???

I've read it... didn't really like it.

It wasn't Linda, you could tell...

The part I didn't like was the how-many page intro of Crystal explaining how this is Linda's wish for her to complete it and how close her and Linda were...

DIDN'T like that at all... If you were so close, why are you trying to prove it to us?

I think this was a ploy for the publisher to make $$$ off of Linda's leftover notes/writings, but that's just my onion

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hrj777
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posted June 26, 2003 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lost Leo,

Yes, I have an advanced copy of it that says "Hardcover On-Sale Date June 1998".

Here are some of the other threads I was referring to:

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001893.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000018.html

Love and Light,

Heidi

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Lost Leo
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posted June 27, 2003 12:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WOW Heidi,

Thank you so much for that link. Once I read the first couple posts I was stuck reading the whole thing thru...it's lke the complete hisory of how LindaLand came to be.

Everyone should take a glance at it.

Real cool, Thx!

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taj
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posted June 28, 2003 04:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey, heidi, thanks!
the links are engrossing, as lost leo says.

lostleo, yep, 98. typo error.

some observations about the texts:

Sun conjunct Saturn:
"...unless you've read Chapter 9 in my book Star Signs and don't plan to allow your present body to die. In that case, the lessons must be lerned at some point in time of the existence of your "Physical Immortality" on this earth." (this WOULD be LG's.)

Venus conjunct, sextile or trine Pluto:
"....Should your relationship be that of lovers or mates these aspects have the same foregoing effect....but they have also an additional profound and complex meaning, as you saw in "Love aspects," the first aspect discussed in Section Two." (this WOULD be the editor's comment, yes? but tis not stated so.)

Moon sextile or trine Saturn:
"...Note: Read Chapter 9 in Linda Goodman's Star Signs. - Editor." (here, tis acknowledged.)

Saturn sextile or trine Saturn:
"...This can be especially true after you've both learned to master physical immortality and age reversal through cell regeneration.

This revelation is explained in detail in Chapter 9 of the book Linda Goodman Star Signs. - Editor" (this last sentence is obviously not LG's. the one above it is presumed to be.)

Mercury opposed or Square Neptune:
"..Then consider that trust vibrates to the number 19 in the Chaldean numerological system. Check the meaning of the double number 19 in Star Signs. If you follow this multilayered recipe for contentment, you'll reach the 19 vibration of trust and eventaully stop doubitng each other." (doubtful whether this would be made up.)

Venus conjunct, sextile, or trine Mars:
"...With obvious sarcasm, my high school English teacher, Ms Helen Fay, used to train us to remember proper usage...The point is, dear gentlepeople, that either way the sentence is true and should be remembered."
(i don't know about you, but the last line is 'typical' LG to me.)

Venus opposed or square Mars:
"(Serves you right: you should be vegetarians.)"

Mercury opposed Mercury:
"...You see I have Mars in Gemini (the sign ruled by Mercury) so I'm able to play your mental chess games too - right along with you!" (did she have it?)

most expressions and phrases really 'feel' LG in the manner that they talk to you like a friend...sprightly, tongue-in-cheek, kind, conversational, humorous!

the part (rising signs) that are supposedly reynold's just have a different tone to it.

um, ok, regardless....
c reynolds and c bush came up with a very likeable though imperfect book. (the 'imperfect' part is my mars in virgo speaking, please) hey, what can i say? am impressionable

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anafaery
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posted June 28, 2003 05:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i looked over my copy again last night. pity i bought it hardcover, i could really use that lost 30 bucks now.

btw lindas mercury was in gemini, yes. in the lindas life forum i posted her birthdata, if you are interested.

lindas stuff is of value to me even though i dont view aspects like a lot of people do- meaning people who think trines are a gift and oppositions mean you are at odds, i just dont. ive been enlightened to a more balanced (and accurate!) way of thinking in the past little while. i didnt actually read through all her aspect information last night... but linda tends to be intuitive about astrology rather than 'just the facts, this is an opposition so this wont work'. again, i dont have a fresh memory of her interpretation of aspects in my mind at the moment. i love linda dearly but ive been open in other threads about my opinion that i dont agree with everything she said. thats not the point im trying to make here, im just being open. i have no argument with linda, and im not debating her contributions or supposed contributions to the book.

that said, i was appalled at what i read last night that was attributed to carolyn reynolds. its too bad she doesnt come here because i almost feel i am attacking someone who cant defend themselves, however she put her name on the line by having that stuff published, and connected with lindas name too so i feel i have a right to make my opinions known.

her contribution is one of the most cookiest of cookbook astrology ive ever read. it is uninspired, it is in black and white terms and any neophyte reading it with a sincere interest in astrology would be devastated, if they had certain things in their or their partner that she had a part in describing. i couldnt believe it when i was reading it, i felt awful.

aspects are not black and white!!! i wish people would REALIZE this! trines can turn against you! squares can SAVE you! argh! its so frustrating! they are treated so frivolously, and good lord! if i didnt have the instruction that i have, id be half crazy by now. luckily i was given some excellent examples and a very clear instruction as to how aspects work in a chart. unfortunately not everyone is lucky enough to have that experience... i just wish people would stop the doom and gloom astro and make sure that people understand that they have OPTIONS and free will, and that things arent black and white in this world!

argh... sorry. im just really passionate about this subject. *sigh*

no offense to carolyn as a person, as she can only teach what she was taught, but carolyn, if you are out there, whoever taught you was WRONG.

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Lost Leo
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posted June 30, 2003 02:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree

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anafaery
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posted June 30, 2003 11:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you lost leo! its nice to see that im not alone.

i was thinking about that again last night... and im just so FURIOUS at her description of sag rising. thats what i am, if you werent aware. ooh it made me so MAD. she says some offhand remark about how 'several marriages are in store with this firecracker', i mean wtf is that supposed to mean??? what if your sun and venus is in cancer, and your saturn happens to be in the 7th house? people with saturn in the 7th house tend to see marriage as a duty. doesnt matter wth your rising sign would be, youd hang on for dear life! i mean *i* shouldnt even be making such a general statement in my cancer example, without keeping in mind the whole chart, but its just an example.

the mere asc alone is not enough to determine any statement as final as that, and she doesnt even appear to get what an asc even is. the rising sign is *not* whats deep inside your psyche, unless perhaps it happens to have strong aspects to other placings, or in the 12th house (see below for an explanation of asc in 12th house). every DAY there is a 1 in 12 chance to be born with sag rising, that equates to MILLIONS of people with MANY other planetary placings, and shes just so bloody wrong and i will go out on a rare limb here (i usually dont insult people) but i think shes an idiot. harumph. honestly for me to insult someone, you KNOW it ****** me off to a very strong degree.

(i use the meridian house system, which uses an equatorial ascendant, you still use the 1st house cusp, but its more how other people would see you, and how you see yourself is the equatorial asc).

it just really got to me, how blatantly unfair it is, and reiterates to me how awful cookbook astro is. thought can be very powerful, and if one thinks subconsciouly that one will have 'many marriages', then more likely than not, one will. i dont believe that statements like that have any place in astrology. theres always two sides to every coin, and often even more than two. its like how i get so het up about aspects. im trying not to get into my beliefs about that here, i dont want to make anyone mad at me, lol!

it would have been FAR more honest of her if she had of said something to the effect of 'several relationships MAY be in store for this bla bla bla'. as an 'astrologer' and a 'writer' it is her duty. anything less is extremely irresponsible and tarnishes the real wisdom of astrology. one thing astro has taught me, is that people will *always* surprise you. no matter what their chart says, we all have free effing will.

can you imagine though, if a naive person read her description, and then thought, oh well, i guess i wont work on my marriage, because it says in the stars that im doomed for many marriages anyway? AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHSTOPMEBEFOREISCREAM!!!!!!!!!!! OH NO, I ALREADY DID!!!!

she did get one thing right. i *am* a firecracker. you know what though? only when its an injustice. and guess what? im a libra sun... and how do libras feel about injustice, mmm?

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Zerep
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posted July 01, 2003 05:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I bought it a few months ago, I suppose its good for beginners to try learn & understand a chart & aspects a little bit more.

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