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ally
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posted July 14, 2003 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is there a sign that is more inclined to tell lies? Would it happen to be gemini, capricorn,or cancer?

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1scorp
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posted July 14, 2003 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Let's see who steps up first to lie and say that they don't lie.

I know how to lie

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proxieme
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posted July 14, 2003 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes I lie/almost lie despite myself; I have to fight not to.
Dern Fishy Sun.

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pidaua
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posted July 14, 2003 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who doesn't lie? That would be the real question. LOL......I never trust people that say "I never Lie!!".

For myself, I try to be as honest as possible or just not comment. There are times when I stretch the truth (A sag exagerate a bit? LOL) but I try not to lie and yet, it still happens.

I guess the other question would be "Do you lie to get something from someone or do you lie to get ahead?"

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proxieme
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posted July 14, 2003 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I lie, it's usually in order to smooth things over or to hurry things along, most often being a lie of omission. Otherwise, I've noticed that I'm prone to lying in order to maintain my privacy.

(Sucha Pisces, sucha Pisces.)

That's prolly a more apt question:
How and why does each Sun Sign lie?

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Cat
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posted July 14, 2003 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think all people regardless of their Sun signs can have the ability to lie....but to what degree is a different story.

I'd always take a look at Neptune in a chart - where it is and what aspects it makes to other planets in the chart. eg: Neptune/Mercury could "confuse" the communications.

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pidaua
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posted July 14, 2003 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good question Prox!!!

I lie mostly by omitting something or just no commenting. I will also tell a few tales (stretch the story) to make it more humerous, but not to make myself look better or someone to look worse.

So, then I would say Sagittarians like to make things more interesting or funny.

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Aphrodite
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posted July 14, 2003 03:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Ally,

This is a deep question to ask and involves many things. There are all kinds of lies and asking which of the three horoscope signs you listed is more inclined to, does not give whole groups of Sun Signs justice.

In any case, I myself would be lying if I said which is more inclined to lie because that would be making up a story, upon another layer of story on the basis of Sun Signs.

Do you think YOU are being lied to?

Because if you think so, and have no basis for that train of thought---this is also a lie we create for ourselves.

Aphrodite

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lioneye68
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posted July 14, 2003 03:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I try not to lie, because it's too hard to keep track of, and I'm bad with details as it is!
However, when I do feel I have no choice but to fib, it's usually because I don't want to hurt someone's feelings. For example...
Co-worker: Hey, let's get out of here and go somewhere nice for lunch.
Me: Oh, man, would I love too, but I'm way too busy today, plus I have to wait for so-and-so to get back to me on the thing, so I can't leave my office until he does.
(truth...I can't sit through an hour of you carrying on about why everyone in the office is so stupid and/or an a-hole, because that just brings me down)

Now, I use to go out with a Pisces who turned out to be a compulsive liar. But his lies were just to make himself seem like he was going somewhere in life, when really, he couldn't even keep a job for longer than a month. He kept getting fired. His side of the story was always bull-shi* anyway, so I have no idea what the real stories were (about why he was fired)

I also knew a Virgo that lied alot, or more like exagerated alot. He'd say "I told you that 6 times. Why can't you remember it?"
When he never did tell me at all, or if so, only once. Or he'd lied to make a point, like he'd say "I KNOW for a fact that so-and-so did that, because I saw him do it before". He was always so sure that he was right about people being less than honerable, that he would lie to support his opinion about them, and to convince others to feel the same way about that person. He did that ALOT.

My mom, the Saggie was good at making up b.s. stories to work the system, or to get days off from work, or to get people to do things for her.

My Gemini sister has a way of twisting up facts to make things seem more exiting than they really are, or to get two people mad at each other so she could sit back and be entertained. She's growing out of that, thank God!

Hmmm. I'm seeing a trend. The mutables seem to be the "story tellers" in my experience. But not for malicious reasons, like to steal or to get someone into bed or anything like that. Just for basically harmless reasons. (except the Virgo. He just wasn't very nice sometimes, turning people against someone who HE didn't like)

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1scorp
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posted July 14, 2003 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alright, I'll spill it.

I lie if someone asks a direct question into which they keep persisting that I answer.

Or... I do have a habit of not telling everything that pertains to a certain topic. Which gets pinned as being a lie... yet, think about it... I couldn't have possibly lied if I never volunteered the informatin in the first place! Ahhh... point made.

Or if someone is really annoying me and won't stop... Example: I just hate this new haircut... it just looks horrible... don't you think it looks bad?

Me: No. It looks alright.

NOTE: I DIDN'T say that it looked "good"

See... it's all a matter of reading between the lines

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N_wEvil
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posted July 14, 2003 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since an application of willpower directly interferes with reality and lying is an expinditure of willpower, eventually the lie can become more real than what you chose to disguise.

If i lie it's because I feel threatened, usually a preservative measure that never works, usually I dont see the point in lying because if people dont know the full story how can you expect them to react rationally or predictably in any manner?

The mind is great at filling in gaps in information, so usually lying would consist of supplying "dummy" information to fool a mind.

I suppose the circumstances involved determine weather its ok to lie or not, but the worst kind of lie is one you tell yourself, because you can start living it.

Those are my thoughts anyway

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Oxychick
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posted July 14, 2003 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi ally,

I posted a question about this a few months ago and got some really interesting information:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000771.html

Hope that helps!

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 06:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I read this and understood everyone's reasons for lying...

But it kinda saddened me that every person admits to being a liar... says a lot about us all, huh?

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N_wEvil
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posted July 14, 2003 06:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ahh....bless the human condition

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ally
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posted July 14, 2003 06:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think which signs may be more inclined to lie has alot to do with creativity and whether you're secretive or not. And there are certain parts of one's personality that can/could be determined by your astrological sign/s(i.e. creativity,secrecy),right?

I'm a sagittarius and I love lying. I find that I lie alot,but not about important things. I asked about gemini,cancer,and capricorn simply because I know people who're those signs,or have a prominent placement of those signs on their chart and they lie alot. I know that all signs are not the same,but that just seemed to link those three signs together.

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 06:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say lying is second nature for Scorps, if not it's first nature.

That's speaking only from my experience with them... but they lie...ALOT...

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proxieme
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posted July 14, 2003 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bah, I usu. fight tooth and nail to not lie (yep, trying to appease it that completely second nature), but some squeak through. In general, though, I think that my Aqua Moon beats me too mercilessly for them to pass frequently. I can lie for a sec and then...*BAM*.

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 07:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Personally, I try NEVER to lie...

Actually I'm known for being untactful and indiscreet amongst my friends for always, "telling it how it is"

The times I catch myself lying are the times when I'm trying to spare someone's feelings... I would honestly say that is the only time I lie...

When I was younger I used to exagerate when bragging to make myself look better... eventually I outgrew it as high school ended... no one likes a braggert.

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what... nevermind! I lie all the time...

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 07:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what... nevermind! I lie all the time...

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N_wEvil
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posted July 14, 2003 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
twice over, too - it seems!

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Lost Leo
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posted July 14, 2003 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oops!

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moondust
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posted July 14, 2003 11:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1Scorp- Typical scorpio comment, trying to justify/disguise your lies! I love it!

Lost Leo- Typical Leo pointing the finger and then lying about lying! J/K

Everyone lies, it's human nature. Why do you think a dog is "wo/man's best friend?"

How you lie or "why?" depends on one's level of consciousness. The more unaware someone is, I think the more they will be apt to lie or cheat.

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lioneye68
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posted July 15, 2003 01:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is such a thing as a nice lie, you know. You don't have to admit to your grandma that you don't care for the sweater she made you, for example. When she asks, you LOVE it, and so do your friends, who keep wanting to borrow it. In fact, you'd be wearing it today, if your buddy would give it back.... honest.

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lioneye68
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posted July 15, 2003 01:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Leo, you lie all the time? Really? That's not nice. For what reason?
Ok, I do too, but I swear, I only do it to spare the feelings of others, who can't handle the truth
Never for hurtfull reasons.
Only for their own good.
I'm a benevolent liar

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