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Topic: An interesting astrological thought.
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matty
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posted July 21, 2003 03:31 PM
 
I have always wondered what it would be like, astrologically, if a child was born, on a space ship, flying in a low orbit around Jupiter, or on Jupiter(if you could be "on" Jupiter, under proper conditions).What an amazing chart that child would have with 52+ moons. WOW. Emotional or what? I really do not have a question, just something to ponder. peace,
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N_wEvil
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posted July 21, 2003 03:35 PM
im not aware of any articles on this - What would a Martian kid be like? or a Plutonian? interesting ideas!  IP: Logged |
matty
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posted July 21, 2003 03:38 PM
And not just the moons idea, but how important does Jupiter become in that persons chart?What about earth? Heck, I don't understand terrestrial astrology even, now I am off trying to figure out Jupiterian(?) astrology. Oh well, just thought I'd pass the ideas along, not too many other places on earth I could ask this question, with any hopes of getting a reply other that, "who cares". Be well.
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proxieme
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posted July 21, 2003 03:48 PM
This thread is really, really interesting, Matty - and I sincerly hope that it gets some great feedback.
Dubya and I, respectively, have tried initiating convos like this a few times (there's a "The Earth from Mars" thread floating around somewhere), but they've not ever taken off.
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N_wEvil
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posted July 21, 2003 04:14 PM
mitosis in smilies...whatever next.Anyway..back on topic. It was mentioned in "secrets from a stargazers' notebook" - anyone know of any other speculative texts? What about reports from the men who supposedly visited Luna? IP: Logged |
matty
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posted July 21, 2003 08:19 PM
Who knows maybe each moon of Jupiter deals with one emotion.I don't think I even have 52 emotions... I would love this thread to progress, however as I said, my earth based astrology isn't all that. So extra-earth based, is a bit weaker. One other thought is....the moons nodes, oh my freaking god......How many good/bad karmas does one need to work on. Ok, well, I will be back, maybe I'll take a trip out to Jupiter and ask around... Peace,
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Aphrodite
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posted July 22, 2003 11:10 AM
I suspect, the solution to this thought---even though it was explicitly stated not as a question (what double talk, are you a Gemini?)--lies is other dimensions some of us are not present to, or conscious of. Some people do a bit of astral traveling. If some of us are lucky, we may get an opportunity to strike up a chat. But if some of us don't, well fear not.  IP: Logged |
matty
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posted July 22, 2003 11:16 AM
Nope, not a Gemini, share a planet with them though.Much prefer Vulcan, if it can get it together and get discovered. Not really a question no, Just wonderings. I tend to complicate things, but that is how my mind works currently. My soultion I suppose, is to head on out ot Jupiter and ask around...anyone for a road trip...
-The ever curious Matty
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NikiSpeedy
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posted July 26, 2003 11:23 PM
WELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL --I am stumped on that one and that makes me mad!! LMAO I hardly ever at a loss for words. Makes me think the Astrology on other planets would not even be recognizable to those of us on Earth!! Or maybe the thot of Jupiterian astrology would not even be necessary, as they would be so fat and happy there!! As for other Planets - I guess we would have to think what kind of beings they would be, and what strivings they have. Are they looking to understand themselves and others the way we are? Yes, this IS interesting. Maybe the Moderator/Randall could comment??? IP: Logged |
anafaery
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posted July 27, 2003 03:24 AM
ah... i love threads like this. they get you thinkin outside the box. the thing of it is, is that there is so indication that jupiters moons mean the same as our moons. our moon already has it covered, and so jupiters moons would likely mean other things. think about it... when pluto was discovered, even though it was attributed rulership to scorp which previously shared mars, it didnt just become a new mars with the same meanings. its just logic to me. all those moons would have meanings wholly their own, astrology doesnt need another 52 moons that mean the same as our own. just the same as how if we were born on mars, we wouldnt transpose earths meaning onto mars and vice versa. mars would stand for the same old thing, and earth would stand for the same things that it does now, which is rising sign. lioneye and i are firm believers that the rising sign is ones 'earth' sign. even if we were born on mars i believe it would still have the same meaning, because our species originated on earth.believe me, if one day we colonized a planet, nothing would change. the core meanings are based in antiquity and even though more planets have been discovered at that point, their meanings havent changed all that much. perhaps some things have been shared, and in that case astrology would be a lot more specific as to rulerships. even now if we wanted to we could apply jupiters moons to our charts, but i dont think anyones decided what moon rules what. i daresay that it would be different. although to be fair... perhaps the moons of jupe would rule things of the emotional realm, just more specific things. perhaps one would rule jealousy (although i think that lilith already rules that, but its just an example) one might rule sadness... who knows dont worry though, new planets just add, they dont rend the whole system of astrology apart. that would never happen imho. an interesting note too, is that uranus rules things like the internet... and it wasnt discovered until we kinda had need of such a thing. the ancients certainly didnt need a planet to describe the internet, and mercury did quite well for their needs. just food for thought IP: Logged |
ash_14
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posted July 29, 2003 08:34 AM
anafaery, uranus was discovered in 1781... not too much internet usage going on then.i think if you were born on jupiter or even near it you would probably be very emotional as you would be DEAD in so many ways (+ jupiter is made of gas so you couldnt even stand on it) science girl to the rescue... i'm sorry. question tho- astrology seems to have something to do with distance i.e. mars has more influence than the stars so what it you were born out of this galaxy? even out of this galaxy cluster? in a space completely devoid of ANYTHING for about 100MPc (one Pc=30 thousand billion km) this is how far it is to anything out there. you would have nothing to influence you, your chart would be pretty empty. last question, people keep mentioning this planet vulcan that is going to be discovered. do you mean discovered in our solar system? or somewhere else, cos i'm not seeing that to be too likely anymore since we can detect planets in other solar systems. surely we could find one in ours...? IP: Logged |
anafaery
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posted July 29, 2003 09:50 AM
uranus rules technology, and the internet is one factor of technology. in the late 1700's people did start to get more technologically inclined, the early 1800's saw the industrial revolution etc. uranus obviously existed before it was discovered however the fact that it wasnt known has a lot to do with certain things in the sense of the psyche of collective human consciousness. certainly humans have had technological advances throughout history however in the relatively short time since uranus was discovered (200+) years, we have seen technology advance at a very rapid rate. i personally think that discovering uranus and its rulership being attributed to technology and such that the energies were more directed, and now we have technology for technologies sake, rather than adaptive techniques born from the need to survive. we dont need the internet to survive, however we did need to develop tools to survive in ancient times. things like the plow and the wheel... thats a form of technology but its hardly sophisticated. previously technology was ruled by other planet, mercury took much of what uranus currently rules (if it existed back then) and other planets picked up the slack too. since uranus has been discovered though, technology has come into its own and has become limitless in principle and design. what i am trying to say is that since its discovery technology has had an energy all its own and has exploded and advanced because of it. uranus rules other things too but we were discussing internet and technology in general so thats what ive narrowed it to, i could go on and on and no one here wants that lol. it would be interesting to see what uranus and mercury were doing on the day the internet was born... some things are 'triggered' by transits between the planets, a close aspect will definitely create triggers. mercury ruling communication and the written word is what makes me wonder about uranus transits around the invention of the internet. as far as vulcan ive said in other threads that i think that was probably a bit of wishful thinking on lindas part, i personally think we would know by now if there was a planet as close as vulcan is purpoted to be. as far as your other question, astrology has a lot to do with distance. if you were born on a very far away galaxy, i daresay mars wouldnt matter a whit. the reason some astrologers use fixed stars is because they are so large that their effect can be felt (in a muted degree), but usually its a universal thing (as in a global trend), and any aspects are interpreted with extremely tiny orbs. no greater than 1 degree, usually. same with our outer planets... pluto for example should always be considered with a very small orb. some astrologers do, some dont... some even stay true to ancient or medieval astro and discount the outer planets altogether. IP: Logged |
Lunargirl
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posted July 29, 2003 01:47 PM
Many of the planets in our solar system are uninhabitable for us, but we might one day orbit them as colonists, so yeah, how to calculate interplanetary charts would be a brand new field is a cool question...If Terra is an earth, and material planet, and is home to material beings and a material-oriented philosophy/astrology, then perhaps Jupiter, as a gaseous planet, might be home to gaseous beings and gaseous-oriented philosophy/astrology. Just my sophistry, Lunargirl IP: Logged |
ash_14
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posted July 29, 2003 05:51 PM
okay okay, as i've said before i know f.a. about the technical aspects of astrology ie what represents what, so i get the technology thing, its just that you said 'internet' not technology so forgive me for being all 'i dont think so'... if that makes sense.ana, you said some stuff that confuses me. not so much confuses but mistiffies me (i know i cant spell), it is one of the major problems i have with astrology. the think about how a planet has no influence until its discovered... i mean come on! so this really really big chunk of planet is floating about unknown to us and then as soon as soon as some guy looks in his telescope and says "wait a second- its a planet!" then all our lives are changed forever... right then. you suggested its a psychological thing but i dont think the progression of technology is to do with our knowledge that theres another planet out there. and another thing, since this rant is going strong, what about pluto?? its not a real planet technically speaking, it was just captured by our suns gravity. i can tell you my reasons for that statement but you sound intelligent so i wont be an a$$ and explain it. the thing to do with our solar system being formed and how the inner planets are all terrestial but the outer ones are gas- except pluto etc etc. so what if that happened again? its unlikely i know, but hypathetically speaking- would that change all our lives? this rant has nothing to do with this thread does it? sorry got carried away, i might go now and try and start an argument elsewhere IP: Logged |
proxieme
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posted July 29, 2003 11:18 PM
Well, There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy
(or in your science, now, as that has become our new religion - as sure an ideological tyrant as any scriptural canon, and with its own preachers and prophets of dogma to boot).*prox said, feeling very much the Fish*  IP: Logged |
ash_14
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posted July 30, 2003 10:12 AM
right... okay... that means...?IP: Logged |
anafaery
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posted July 30, 2003 05:40 PM
ill get to this soon ash just got lots of other stuff going on, and i *do* need to spend less time on the internet. ive been on a lot the past week or two (since my husband left for the states) but i need to start spending some of my time to sort things out in my real life as they are quite serious issues. i could get so lost in the net lol... and i dont want to, its not healthy for me. probably tonight or tomorrow ill answer your questions, give you more fodder for debate but right now ive got to get off and go out and do some shopping. ive not eaten for a couple of days heh. i just found out though that i can spend the money i set aside for a bill so im gonna go get some grub. DO NOT APOLOGISE for directing comments at me about astrology. you can ask anything you want, you can debate my points, no apology is needed for getting 'carried away'. it doesnt offend me. indeed i admire you, you are honest and i fully understand the need to have things proven before you will put stock in them. i have those qualities myself. the only thing that would offend me is if you wouldnt listen to reason and werent accepting to things that i might say, even if you knew they were true. do you know what i mean? people that argue just for the sake of arguing, you can never convince those people of anything, they could totally believe you but argue you anyway just because they wanna be troublesome. i dont think that you are like this. i dont 'get' that from you. its just hard for you to accept something blindly (as it should be!) without determining it to fall into your standards of truth. i think that if you fully understood astrology and it met your standards, youd be a big enough person to admit its value. i just really dont feel you are here to make life miserable. you just have higher standards of proof than most people, you are more discerning. that i can respect. the other kind of skeptic is not worth my time and energy. its not debating the issue, its debating the other person, and having power over them, 'winning' over them as a case of who breaks down first. thats unhealthy debate, and i dont get that from you. phew! lol. i probably could have answered your questions in the time it took for me to say all that lol! i just get carried away. i will answer those questions though soon, i gotta run now. take care and ill be back soon! dont go too far away now ~ana IP: Logged | |
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