posted July 28, 2003 05:34 PM              

Birth Data

Birth Name:
Birth Date: 4/28/1937 (Apr 28, 1937)
Birth Time: Not Known
Birth Place: Tikrit, Iraq
Latitude / Longitude: 34 N 36 / 43 E 42
Rodden Rating / Source: XX / Date in question.
Source Notes:
ECS quotes INFOsophia No.15/ 1991 for 4:05 AM BGT from an Arabic B.C. seen by Barbault. In July 1998, LMR contacted Jean-Christophe Vitu to please ask Andre Barbault for confirmation and Barbault answered that his niece, Martine, had seen a document in Arabic that she was told was Hussein's B.C., but inasmuch as she did not read Arabic, it meant nothing to her. Barbault writes that he is "as skeptical as you."

Pandit Ashutosh Ojha writes in AFA Bulletin 5/31/1991, "Hussein was born on the night of April 27 or the morning of April 28; the reported time is 3:35 AM Baghdad time (-3 hrs)."

Bill Meridian called from Abu Dhabi, United Arabian Emirates on 11/09/1991, quotes a Lebanese astrologer who said that Hussein's mother went into labor on the night of April 27 and delivered on the early 28th; rectified to 00:07 AM BGT.

Helen Ederer quotes Herbert Yohag for 7:12 PM.

T. Pat Davis spec 9:15 PM GMT.

Julian Cohen talked to a local University professor who had been formerly in the mid-east, who wrote to his contacts and came up with 8:55 AM: Julian does not vouch for authenticity.

Caroline Gerard writes from Scotland that Nick Campion has data from Eric Mores for February 16, 1937, 8:55 AM.

Frances McEvoy has a chart from a correspondent in France that gives 10:30 AM.

Grazia Bordoni writes in March 1998, "I read in the newspaper that he was born in a Bedouin tribe where no one registers birthdates; not only the time, but the date is also unsure."

Transit 7/1998 gave February 17, 1937 for Hussein, but also noted that Iraq had celebrated his 61st birthday on April 28.

Any comments on his chart? I thought there was interest enough for a new thread. Kind of tired the antichrist one. I saw right away Uranus is right next to his Sun.

Jupiter is in Capricorn, sometimes means paranoia and distrust of others. I have seen this a lot in people I know. Jupiter in Cap is a tough placement. Moon and Mars conjunct in Sag.
I KNEW his Mars was in Sag, or Aries.

Natasha

posted July 28, 2003 06:51 PM              

There is a of Chinese astrology on the web regarding Saddam, and that conclusion is that he had very little mothering if at all and feels isolated from people. He lacks Water (mother) and needs to feel the unconditional approval he didn't receive. In any case, I know Pisces can be militant too but usually Pisces does seek out approval, am I wrong?

I just thought it would nice to discuss current affairs, this is a drama playing out right in front of us, who knows where it will end.

Natasha

posted July 28, 2003 07:11 PM            

Saddam Hussein
Born on Wednesday, April 28, 1937 at 08:55 in Tikrit IRAQ
Sun: 07 Taurus 31 Moon: 05 Sagittarius 49 Mercury: 24 Taurus 13 Venus: 21 Aries 51 Mars: 04 Sagittarius 21 Jupiter: 26 Capricorn 50 Saturn: 00 Aries 20

posted July 29, 2003 11:34 PM              

I am looking at both charts, and I see one possible chart for Osama, has the Sun conjunct Uranus again. I am inclined to believe his Mars is Leo, because it's hard to believe Taurus Mars could be that dangerous. I know a Capricorn Mars and the earth placement can make a person ruthless and controlled but usually not into hurting people.

Still if he's being as a tool for others, it's possible. I have a hard time believing the moon could be Virgo, or Gemini or Cancer, all seem so passive. I know Virgo moons and they are not the organized killer types. I kind of believe the Cancer moon could be correct even though I have that because I can be very singleminded about my beliefs, but I do not know other water moons who are like this.

So far I trust the March 10, and July 30th charts. Are there any famous Leo dictators except for Napoleon? It's strange but I know a few wackos born in 1957 including the scientist I mentioned. Possibly the Saturn in Sag, Trine Uranus and Pluto in Leo is the clue.

Any comments? My scientific curiousity is showing.