posted August 02, 2003 06:35 AM              

if a moderator would be so kind to do so, please feel free. i made this post in error and regret ever posting it.

posted August 03, 2003 04:10 PM              

If I recall, your Pluto was conjunct your ascendant:

At this time any relationship that you are involved with, intimate or otherwise will be greatly transformed. Your personality will be transformed now, bringing to light some very important but possibly unknown aspects of your psyche. This can be quite disturbing to you, because you don’t want to acknowledge these components of yourself. This may be an excellent time for professional help in understanding yourself better. It’s necessary that you accept all of yourself, not just those things that you might label nice. That doesn’t mean to act out some of the components of self that are not appropriate, just understand that we are all made up of both positive and what you may consider negative parts. These are real parts of your psyche, and have to be integrated into your conscious mind.

You may have exhibited some behaviors lately that are hard for you to understand, look at these as behaviors being driven by unaware parts of your psyche. You may be in denial to the point that you blame others for your behaviors where in actuality they came from within you. You will have a strong drive for power and control now, because you refuse to accept others authority over you. The best plan to handle this aspect is to seek help from someone who can be helpful but non-judgmental.

Because Pluto is conjunct your Ascendant, it stands to reason that its moving into your 1st house.

Pluto transiting the 1st house causes a revolution in many aspects of your self-image or personality. Pluto’s desire is to have us recognize the control the past and others have on all of us, and retake control of our life. If we consciously assist Pluto by facing our psycho-trash, as Bil Tierney calls it, we can revolutionize our life. If we resist facing our own history, and how today’s behaviors are shaped by it, well “Nellie bar the door”, its going to be a long rough ride.

Pluto’s transit usually involves two phases; a breakdown phase, and a rebuilding or consolidation phase. The effects of the breakdown phase of this house transit are often suppressed anger that comes out in our interaction with others. This is partly due to us starting to realize how we are being controlled and our need to reclaim control over our own destiny. We’re not about to allow anyone to try and control us now. The task that we need to focus on though isn’t others trying to control us today, that is something that we can handle. The question is, what experiences in our background has set us up to be controlled by others. When and where did we give up control of our life to others? In the second phase of this process your anger will diminish and you will start to rebuild your self-image. By the time this transit ends, you will be in control of your own destiny.

Hope that this helped in some way.

posted August 03, 2003 06:44 PM              

dont say that nobody cares- i do for one, and about a million other people on this forum do.

i really have no idea what this is about so i'll shut up now, but i hope you feel better. we should start our discussion soon (i dont think either of us has enough energy for an argument no matter how good natured it is) but it would be good as you definately sound like you know your stuff.

you said in another post that you hope i wont argue just for the sake of arguing and im definately not like that so you dont have to worry. i would just like some stuff explained in a more convincing way than it has before. if you cant answer all my questions thats fine, no one knows all the answers and i wont hold it against you. i also am not setting you the GIGANTIC task of trying to convince me of the truth in astrology as that would take years and would involve me studying it at great lengths as all of you have done, unfortunatly i dont have the time to do this although i have had a few charts done and also have some questions about them.

posted August 04, 2003 02:23 AM              

wevil- *hugs* thank you sweetness im gonna write a post about my foray into the mountains i think. i hope you will read it, although it might be a longer post, tee hee. talked to james today too, and things are GREAT on his end. hes enjoying his work, hes got a lot of focus, im so proud of him. he is hoping to be back in three months or so. yay!

lanny, thank you. that was so kind of you. it has been a rough time lately, but usually the fires are small and go out quickly. ive had pluto on my asc for a little while now, and most of it has been very very good. there are always snags though. certainly im more conscious of how i appear to other people.

its a good thing that my libra sun is somewhat compatible with my sag asc. i find more often than not the two are pretty complimentary. everything has a negative side though.

your comment 'control of my own destiny' is something very poignant and profound at this time. ill elaborate further once i have a good think about it, and can formulate some thoughts.

nJupe is sextile tPluto and asc, and my nMoon is trine both as well. that gives me lots to think about as well.

i am going to read your post some more and really think about it. thank you i dont think weve ever posted together, so its nice to make your aquaintance finally.

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 04, 2003 02:24 AM              

in your post, i dont think i said i hoped you werent one of the people that argue just to argue, i *know* you arent, as opposed to others who are (not necessarily here, but in general). thats why i like you so much. dont worry about me my dear, when we do get into our groove and have our discussion, itll be poetry. i am confident that i can answer all your questions, and dont hesitate to ever ask. i see a lot of myself in you, and i just feel that i 'get' you, and i certainly am fond of you. id never tell you to pi$$ off, dont worry. you dont offend me in any way shape or form. i LOVE your honesty! you arent mean, youre just honest. i respect that, a lot.

thank you for reassuring me i needed it... and it really helps. i care too.

*flutters off with her newly recharged wings*

~ana

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 04, 2003 06:17 AM              

~faery

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 05, 2003 01:00 AM              

i know you 'get' me. i know you understand what i am saying, without me having to actually say it. i think we have a mutual sympathy, ive felt 'connected' to you since i came here. thank you for your wishes, youve been very thoughtful to me lately and i am so glad

*hugs*

~faery

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin

posted August 06, 2003 02:57 AM              

~ana, off to bed for some well needed rest and recharging

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where i end and you begin there's a gap in between there's a gap where we meet where i end and you begin
and i'm sorry for us the dinosaurs roam the earth the sky turns green where i end and you begin