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Topic: Libra / Scorpio attraction
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Calypso
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posted September 16, 2003 03:38 PM
 
Help! Can’t get this person out of my mind and we are both married … not to each other! Very strong feelings (not acted upon) … just in my head or is there something “Cosmic” going on??
Libra male 28/09/60 Ottawa, Ont. Canada 7:12 am
Scorpio female 21/11/73 Hearst, Ont. Canada
Thanks!
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pixelpixie
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posted September 16, 2003 06:13 PM
hey there.I don't have a quick astrology program, but I just wanted to let you know, you are not alone. I am a scorpio female, married. I have this incredible connection to a libra man, married (not to each other) I swear, these things are thrown at you to see what you do with the feelings.... I never know what's right, because everything happens for a reason, and I am a romantic, so I think.... Is this where I should be? Is this my soul connection? But I love my spouse too, it is just so confusing.
Linda mentioned the sign after yours having something to teach you, and you are naturally drawn to each other like teacher to student, etc. I guess until a full chart is done, you will be wondering exactly what it is that you are so Drawn to... a karmic connection, etc. I hope someone helps you with this. But i thought that I'd mention to you that sometimes connections happen, whether right or wrong. If you choose to be more than friends, that is what it is, a choice. My morals have become a bit tainted over this, it has me wondering what kind of a disrespectful person I can be. Even though, like you, nothing has happened. My problem is in my head, it has. I feel conflicted. So if you ever want to commisserate, I am here, in complete alliance with you.IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted September 16, 2003 06:18 PM
Hmm. I think Calypso is the Libra man in this equation. Or are you?IP: Logged |
Calypso
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posted September 17, 2003 10:53 AM
Hi PixelPixie!
Thanks so much for your response! It sounds like you are going through the same thoughts and feelings that I am. I also believe things happen for a reason and can't help but feel that I belong with this Scorpio girl...that makes me the Libra in the equation :-). I am also very conflicted because I still love my spouse but can't stop thinking about the other ... wanting to be with her in every way ... physically, emotionally, spiritually ... the magnetic attraction is so strong I actually "tingle" inside every time I see her! The choice, for both of us, has been to respect our spouses and not act on our feelings. Yet, it is difficult wanting someone (so much) that you can't ever have ... maybe that's part of the attraction. I wish I could figure it out ...
I don't think that we are disrespectful for the feelings that we have because we can not control those feelings. The only control that we have is how we act on those feelings. I wish you strength also! I would be happy to hear from you again ... it's good to hear your thoughts on the matter, especially since you are also a Scorpio girl!
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pixelpixie
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posted September 17, 2003 12:56 PM
Calypso~
Indeed, we can probably help the other, and give accurate descriptions about what drives us along. That is why I reponded! I have mercury in libra too, so we will understand one another's talking style.
I found, in my experience....oh, and here's a little back ground. I was with this man for about a year, but was going through some personal things that he got ensnarled in, due to my ping ponging emotions. When we parted ways, it was without malice, just my need for controlling my environment. We hadn't spoken in about five years. Then when we happened upon each other, it was like BANG! The connection that we had then seemed to never go away, we'd just shelved it while we went on to other things. He insisted that there had been a void in his life for a long time, due to my absence, and I recognized that indeed, I'd missed his easy smile and the way we could talk forever without ever becoming bored or disinterested...the topics would become deeper and more varied and it was such a spiritual, fun connection. One that I have yet to recreate with anyone else, not even my husband.
So that gets me a bit concerned. After all, I never thought I'd get married, I am not the type, but here I am, it was the right thing to do at the time, but I feel now like I have sacrificed a deep spiritual need that's been gnawing at me, that only this Libra can understand truly. But I am an honest honourable human, and I love my husband. In fact, I love him and respect him as a person enough to wonder if i am forsaking him with my thoughts of another, that just won't go away. I feel as if I am 'going through the motions, but not being fully present, and that though I love him, this is not where I belong in the long term. Until I know for sure, or am confident in my position in life, I can't make the leap of faith, and break everyone's heart, including mine, to give this a go. WOW! Sorry, it just came pouring out, didn't it. Kind of cathartic....not as romantic as I'd intended. Point is, voice your concerns here....they will fall gently into my hands with no judgement.... And good luck!IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted September 17, 2003 01:07 PM
I think the challenge is that Libras are very good at therapeutic love, that is the Libra ideal. Love and Sex Healing. Many Libras and Scorpios make good sexual therapists and psychologists for that reason. What you could be experiencing is the emotional transference that you feel when you get to talk to someone about your deepest problems, ones that you do not dare discuss with your spouse.Have you tried truth or dare with your spouse? Have you tried sexual games, dares, sexy lingerie, anything at all to jump start your marriage? It's the way that you love not who, and if you can learn from someone else, do you think you can teach your spouse all over again? Are you putting your lost feelings into this taboo relationship, or did you actually find new love? you need to feel complete and regain not get a new love, but how likely are you to get the wholeness from someone brand new? If someone knows you it's a bore, I agree. Nothing is harder than friendship because it lasts and lovers are temporary. Libras and Scorpios like the mystery of a new lover, but find it harder with friendships. Once the thrill is gone, there is always friends, other people, vacations. I have yet to find a Libra or Scorpio who was happy with one person as a friend, it's just that there aren't enough experiences in the marriage. Look at all your possibilities when your body and mind tingle, there is a huge control issue in the self denial of your body with someone you love, so you can save it up for someone else who may or may not want it. Very exciting because you are saving it up. Try refocusing that energy into a game of tennis and see if you still feel it. If you do then refocus, but if you don't then it's just a body tingle, not a real connection. Good Luck, I have known many Libras and Scorpios with this challenge, especially with Cancer, Capricorn, or Sag mates. Libras and Scorpios need a lot of mental challenge and feel they have to settle for the physical. I think it's better to be single than settle if that's what you feel, but Scorps especially have a tough time remaining single or being the guilty one, they at least need a close intimate friend they can trust. Libras can be a little more open. Natasha Taurus
"The heart is judged by how much it's loved, not how much it loves" IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 17, 2003 04:17 PM
sthenri~
Those were very well thought out points, and I agree with you. I know, no matter who I am with, I will have to work hard in order to keep it alive.I am aware of that on an intellectual level, and I've not strayed in reality, just wandered there in my head. I am overcome with a yearning though, and I know that my husband is a kind, sweet, passionate, giving person. I give him all the credit, he is an awesome person, really. That is why I am so overcome. I feel like such a failure because i don't deserve his special love, I daydream about someone else, not because my husband is a bad guy, but because I am somehow connected to this other man, in a way I've yet to determine. I'd like to keep it on a friendship level, although there are some huge sparks, and when I am in his company, I don't want to part with it. I was with him before, we were very compatable, it was life experience that broke us up. I know with both men, that I have different connections. I know it would be easy to stay married, and I probably will. But in my experience, I have to poke and prod at my spiritual connections, to see if they are real, and what they mean to me. This is a terribly conflicting time for me. I could go on and on.....sorry.Calypso- I didn't mean to take the forum from you, please don't think I'm taking away from your circumstance, as we are probably on the same page with this. IP: Logged |
FiReY leo 1
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posted September 17, 2003 07:06 PM
the planets that rule libra and scorpio (venus and neptune) are magnetically attracted to one another, i read this in a book.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 18, 2003 01:54 AM
neptune?IP: Logged |
Calypso
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posted September 18, 2003 08:20 AM
Natasha makes some good points, however I have tried many of her suggestions and still feel the same. For me, it has been going on for almost a year and my feelings have not changed. I am in the same position (for the most part) as pixelpixie in that my spouse is a very good person but I feel a special connection to the other.
Pixel .. please don't worry about "taking over the forum"! I may have started it but make no claims to it  I am very fascinated with what you have to say .. It sounds very much like what "my" Scorpio has said to me. Although it doesn't help the situation, it is almost a comfort to know that we are not alone ... or crazy 
Out of curiosity, what sign is your spouse? Mine is Virgo and hers is Gemini (I believe). IP: Logged |
trippysht
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posted September 18, 2003 09:58 AM
hi calypsoi dont know a whole ton about synastry but i took a look at your charts anyways -for practice!- you two don't share a whole bunch of luminary aspects like many married couples do, nor many venus/mars and luminary aspects that would bring lots of attraction but perhaps no long term relationship. However, you do have a whole boatload of Saturn aspects, coming from both of your saturns. You two have had a long karmic history together, lots of ups and downs, triumphs and hurts, and you're meeting each other again to try and level things out. no matter where the relationship goes, you two will be given the opportunity to learn and grow with the help of the other. it's not much, but perhaps it will give you something to think about. IP: Logged |
1scorp
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posted September 18, 2003 11:16 AM
Hey  Scorpio is ruled by pluto
Pisces is ruled by neptune IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 18, 2003 11:47 AM
yeah, 1scorp, that's where I was going with my response-neptune?Calypso~Funnily enough, I apparently have a lot of "karmic saturn" aspects with my libra too!!! Just trying to get it right in this life I guess. My spouse is Aries, with Cappy moon (like me!) and Sag rising.
I am scorpio sun, cappy moon and leo rising.
I have venus/sagittarius ~ I wonder if that's why I always feel unsettled? Also Mars in scorpio.
You seem like an honourable person too, genuinely stuck in a situation you didn't really create, but you were drawn into, inexplicably. We might choose our connections on another plane, but damn, it's hard to understand why we would pick a soul connection while we are involved already. Why would I realistically hurt someone I love? Plus - do I not love myself, and want what's best? IP: Logged |
Calypso
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posted September 18, 2003 02:10 PM
Trippysht ... Thank you for your time and providing some insight. I am pretty new to all this, some basic knowledge of the sun signs but very little undertanding of all the intricate details (ie luminary aspects). You have given me a good explanation of why I feel so connected to this Scorpio ... definitely worth thinking about!
PixelPixie ... I don't think we have the luxury of picking our soul connection, it either finds us or it doesn't. If we are lucky enough to be found, we can't help it if we are already involved, so I don't think we have done anything to deliberately hurt someone we love and it doesn't make us bad people ... it's just bad timing, that's all. I think that we could go through our entire life able to love a number of different people but never meet someone who could be a soul connection. Perhaps, in another life, we will be lucky enough to meet that person at the right time and can complete that connection. Until then .... we continue to stumble around and do the best with what we are given. C'est la vie! IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 18, 2003 04:02 PM
Calypso ~
Spoken like a true patriot of the heart.  IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted September 19, 2003 12:05 AM
Calypso, mine is *Libra*. He was divorced a while back before me. I know that if I wasn't "there" he would reconsider, that is why we are close. I feel the same way about him. I wanted a mate who worked really hard on the spiritual and emotional not just the physical because I was tired of that. He makes me work hard at love and I admire him for it. His venus is in Virgo/5th house, Moon Gemini/1st house, Ascendant Gemini. My Ascendant is Sag/Conjunct Mars (I am a lot like an Aries), Moon Cancer/8th house, Venus Aries/4th house. His Jupiter is conjunct my Ascendant. My mercury in the 7th house is conjunct his moon and ascendant. He is the only man who has ever honestly made me happy to see him in the morning every day.I do know a few Libras who have left their spouses for another, for some reason I have seen a lot of Libra/Cancer unions split up. Usually these Libras will go with another Libra. I cannot judge because I know how deep a Libra's love is. Look at your Ascendant's ruler, if it's Mars then look at the position of Mars in your partners chart. It can tell you a lot. Natasha
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Calypso
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posted September 19, 2003 08:35 AM
Natasha~
Thanks again for your insight. Unfortunately, I haven't a clue what my (or my spouse's)Ascendant's ruler is ... I'm new to all this. If anyone would care to tell me, my data is 28/09/60 Ottawa, Ont. Canada 7:12 am, my spouse's 30/08/65 Guelph, Ont. Canada ?? am
Coincidentally, I was previously married to a Libra and the only connection we had was physical. We had a rollercoaster marriage for seven years during which time we were separated twice, then she left me ... for another Libra! Although the physical side is still very important to me, I need to feel a strong connection emotionally and spiritually for the physical to mean anything ... without it, I just feel empty.Pixel~
Thanks
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pixelpixie
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posted September 19, 2003 08:41 AM
Calypso ~
See if you can somehow get her time of birth.... use that libra charm, implore her that you'd like to understand her better, and want to work up a birth chart. It is inaccurate by many degrees if the time of birth is missing.
Good luck!
OOOH! Also, your potential lover's as well, this could help you greatly, even in understanding your connection.IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted September 19, 2003 09:15 AM
HI Calypso, yes the birthtime is usually on the birth certificate. I am having some technical problems this morning but I see that you have a Libra rising, mercury and venus are in libra on the ascendant which is an interesting aspect. Your moon is conjunct saturn in the 4th. Read up on your aspects first before anyone else's because there are valuable clues there to tell you what you need and want. You have a lot going on in the 4th and 12th houses, the water houses. Almost your entire chart is on the left side which says you are a self starter. Your sun is in the 12th along with your north node which is in Scorpio. Yes a lot of water action here makes love very important in your life and you will work hard for it. Have you tried www.astro.com? You can enter your birthdata and there are lots of free reports that are updated every few months. Anything I give you could change depending on transits. They are very reliable and pretty much everyone on this board uses their service. The readings are very accurate. Natasha IP: Logged |
FiReY leo 1
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posted September 19, 2003 07:30 PM
omg lol, sorry! yes, scorpio is ruled by PLUTO, not neptune. that was a blonde moment.   IP: Logged |
Calypso
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posted September 20, 2003 08:21 PM
PixelPixie / Natash~
Birthtime for my spouse is 4:45 pm
30/08/65 Guelph, Ont. Canada
Thank you both for your comments IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 21, 2003 06:52 PM
Calypso ~ for a good do- it - yourself, enter the info into the venus section at this site.... http://www.adze.com/mart/reports.html
I have used it on someone's reccomendation, and found it fast and accurate. Even just getting the basic vibrations, and then reading into it further with the info on your birthcharts it gives you. Look into it!!!IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 23, 2003 11:52 PM
Hey Calypso? Where'd you go? I am wondering how it fares with you?!IP: Logged |
Calypso
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posted September 24, 2003 09:00 AM
Hi Pixel,I have been reading some info from the sites that have been recommended ... some very interesting and eye opening stuff! My wife has been away on a trip for the last week and gets back on Friday. I will have to discuss some of these things with her. Even though we have strong feelings for each other, we have a hard time communicating ... I will have to try harder!
As for "my" Scorpio ... there is definitely a connection there and she feels it too. She is going through the same soul searching as you, as she is very much in love with her husband and says she couldn't ask for a better one ... trying to understand how she could possibly have feelings for someone else. Having heard your story, I understand her better and I am feeling very selfish now. I am thinking that I should stop trying to maintain any kind of friendship with her because it is just too hard to stop having those feelings and it is especially unfair to her. She is probably feeling like you ... that she is a bad person for betraying her husband's trust. What do you think? In your situation, would it be better (or preferable) for you if "your" Libra stopped trying to keep a friendship going? IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted September 24, 2003 09:26 AM
Calypso
I know the circumstances may seem daunting, but whatever reason the two of you were brought together warrants enough merit on its own to not discount the connection. I think it would not only taint the situation as 'dirty' if you were to stop all communication, it may even cheapen the connection you feel. I would be so sad if it were torn away from me. After all, you don't choose your connections (if you did, I would get along with my mother in law!) they choose you for reasons that are never clear until all the chess men finally fall into place. If you absolutely feel that you would be helping things by stopping, then do as you must, but I know it would hurt me in comparison. You can't help loving someone, but you can temper your physical reaction to them. The emotional roller coaster is probably part of the thrill, It is hard to justify it, but some things conveniently fall into a grey area. I may be emotionally torn, but maybe some things are worth it, don't you think? I'd rather feel like this a million times than feel nothing. It reminds me that I am human and alive. Point is.....No. I don't think so...
You may think it is noble to catapault her feelings above yours or anyone's, but I think it is safe to say, unless she indicates to you, with great certainty that she is so uncomfortable in this situation, she wants to lose what brought her feeling so much in the first place, I would honour her by staying in her life. My opinion.
Marriage is complicated business. So is love. Hard to hold onto, hard to find. In whatever way it finds you, honour it. IP: Logged | |
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