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pidaua
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posted September 29, 2003 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

Okay, I am trying to put some thing into perspective and grasp the big picture with all the annoying little details. LOL..

Here is my question. What should I expect or should I be more aware of now that Saturn is in Cancer and completing my T-Cross.

In that I mean, Saturn in Cancer is in my 10th house. It is currently opposing my Cap Merc in the 4th house, while squaring my Libra -Uranus (a singleton as well) in my 1st house and squaring my 7th house Aries Moon.

For some reason, I think of all the transits that I have experienced (the opposition from Saturn in Gem was a huge one), I see this one as teaching me some major life lessons.

It is said to look at the house where the empty leg of the T-cross resides. For me, that is Cancer. So now I "have" an amazing planet occupying that house.

Any thoughts or advice?

I know the following:

1st house is that of appearance, temperment, self projection, etc.. Ruled by Aries

4th house: Domestic affairs, nuturing parent, home and family life: Ruled by Cancer

7th: Marriage partners, business contracts and joint endeavors: Ruled by Libra

add in the 10th: Reputation, social statue, fame, worldy status - other parent: Ruled by Capricorn.

I am seeing a bit of a pattern: All these houses are ruled by the signs that are also forming the T-Cross. Not only that: My mother is a Cancer and father is a Capricorn


Thanks in advance for the help.

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pidaua
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posted September 30, 2003 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone....anyone....where are the astro specialists?

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lioneye68
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posted September 30, 2003 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think they're all caught up in the drama elsewhere, Pid. What a fiasco! I'm refraining.

Hmmm. I'm not good with all the details either, Saggie rising you know. BUT being the good sport I am, and also cuz I like ya, I'll mull it over some. But first...

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So now I an amazing planet occupying that house.

Pid, what the heck are you trying to say there??

Saturn is fixin' to aspect all your sensitive points in the near future, and that can only translate to one thing. BIG challenges leading to BIG changes. These are changes that will leave you permantly altered, your personal image, your family life, your carreer, your relationships...Pid, you're about to move into the next phase of the journey! It's a little freaky, I know, but ohh, it's more than a little exiting as well! Be open minded, but make intelligent choices, and be prepared to re-invent yourself.
My version, and overview....and I wish you love and joy.

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pidaua
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posted September 30, 2003 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye,

I just about rolled on the ground laughing realizing that I had forgotten an important word...LOL..I did fix it though.

Thank you for your insight. I am going to have to read up on some of those challenges and get prepared.

You're the best...but as a Leo you already knew that huh?

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Aphrodite
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posted September 30, 2003 03:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi pidaua,

t. saturn is making a grand cross in the cadent houses with uranus, mercury and moon. the transit through your 10th house means the energy will create tension through your career activities. so much so that it also makes you re-examine how you have been functioning in the past (saturn symbolizes the karmic past) as yourself, home life, and partnerships. whatever things in these parts of life that have not been working out will become more difficult to deal with, to the point where you must make a break and pursue activities closer to your soul's INTENTion.

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pidaua
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posted September 30, 2003 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aphrodite,

How are you???? Thanks for the info. Well, you have that totally right. My job is forever getting more of a burden. I am in the process of making a slow and calculated change (trying to make the change - Uranus, while minding all my details - Saturn).

In the past I have been such a "pleaser" and now I want to live for myself (not in a selfish way) but do be true to myself.

Thank you so much for your insight!!!

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Aphrodite
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posted September 30, 2003 04:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi pidaua,

i am doing alright. i have been working on a community project for local homeless young adults for this upcoming early december. it's called, "Easy Meals 1-2-3," where volunteers (hoping for professional or student chefs) have cooking demos to teach them basic skills while they are in transition to becoming independent adults.

so, basically busy with life, wedding (not mine!), having dinner parties, concerts, classes, work, etc.

i hear you about the "pleaser" issue. you mentioned it before. there is nothing wrong or right with wanting to please people. it's when our integrity gets out of place and what we stand for gets muddled into something else. it's happens to the best of all of us. there are other sinkers too, like "rebel," "weird," "fiend," and others. mine is "i don't matter and nobody cares." of course i know it's bunk, but you know how it goes. kind of like comfort that doesn't go anywhere.

i have a lot of cardinal planets in my chart, so i am experiencing saturn from 0 to 29 degrees which includes 3 retrogrades, from 2003-2005.

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pidaua
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posted September 30, 2003 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Aphrodite, you are totally busy. I really admire you and what you are doing. Working with the community like that makes a huge difference in the world. You are teaching people a skill that they can use forever.

OMG, you are really in for some cosmic activity. Being as strong and enlightened as you are, I know that you can handle it, but it will be hard. I will be wishing you the best and lots of strength.

I also wonder what this will do for my mom and dad. Mom is a double cancer and dad is a capricorn with a cancer moon. I am sure they are in for a few whammies.

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Aphrodite
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posted September 30, 2003 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
t. saturn is conjuncting mama pidaua's sun and moon conjunction, all three squaring neptune in the 12th house. she must have gotten away with behaving not so kindly or being diffuse. the transit in the 9th house will require her to think more broadly of the consequences of her past behaviors. t.saturn conjuncting the personal planets bestows an aura of loneliness, isolation, and a secret paranoia of dying alone. i sense that the more she continues being defensive and diffuse, the farther away she will push loved ones. her 12th house neptune placement will make it hard for her to relate with others to ask for help.

t.saturn in papa pidaua's chart is in full force right now activating his T-square with mercury, neptune, and the moon. this transit also marks his saturn return again, where he will have to evaluate his life critically to see if he has lived it according to his perceived potential. capricorns are extremely hard on themselves and he may go into deep silences as he recollects the dreams he had that hadn't been fulfilled at this age of his life. it is interesting how there is so much cardinal energy in yours, mama pidaua's, and papa pidaua's charts. t.saturn is conjuncting his natal moon, so he may proceed like your mum and feel alienated from people. he may decide to work less, retire, or pursue something else as a profession by the saturn return.

this makes up for the questions you didn't ask when you submitted your family's birth data a while back

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pidaua
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posted October 01, 2003 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Aphrodite,

I actually responded to you on the past life thread. LOL....I must get some coffee. I am all over the place.

Thanks,

Shawnee

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odi
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posted November 25, 2003 12:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua-
I'm interested in finding out how you've made out? I've been in a similar situation with saturn in cancer... I have a t-square in my natal chart with my opposition being my midhaven/nadir...my ascendent is in cancer. I didn't make it out so well. Lost my job, my mom is dying...it goes on and on. I now only can say, I hope I'm stronger when the universe is through!!! It's made me look at myself deeply, and try to evaluate what's truly important in my life.

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Nackie
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posted November 25, 2003 05:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's nosy Nackie, looking for all the drama...

DUH, sometimes it pays to look at the date on the posts lol

Nackie

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lioneye68
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posted November 25, 2003 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where IS Ms. Pidaua anyway?? I'm getting worried about her because she had that "November 22nd" dream, and we haven't heard from her since last week.

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pidaua
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posted November 25, 2003 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All!!!

Sorry it has been so long since I posted. I have been on a whirlwind tour since Thursday and has it happens I spent 11/22 with my paternal grandmother. She is a fiesty Aries Sun / Libra moon that is going to be 91 in April. LOL..

Maybe this dream was more about me getting in touch with my family. I flew into Las Vegas on Thursday to meet my mom, then flew the next day to Orange County, Ca to meet my dad. We then woke up early Sat and drove out to Central Cali to see my grandmother and about 20 of my aunts / uncles and cousins. LOL...that's only about 10% of the family.

I met up with a cousin that I have been close to since I was a kid. We chose seperate paths. She got into a bit of legal trouble, got married, had 4 kids and is now in a weird marriage situation. She is only a year older than me. We had a strained relationship because they always thought of me as the "black sheep", the Orange County girl type of thing. Now she realizes I was just me, independent and still family oriented. She commended me on being brave and leaving my family to follow my heart 5 years ago when I moved from Southern California to Maryland for my ex-husband. I told her I was just doing what came natural and that it didn't mean I wasn't missing my family. I also told her I would be back soon and will start a family of my own within a few years. Then she sighed, looked at her four out of control kids and said "Well, would you like one of mine. LOL" She is a strong Taurus woman.


As for Saturn. Well, with that line up on November 8th, the transiting Saturn highlighted my T-Square, but - it made me see so many things that needed changes.

Odi - I have been lucky in that my losing a few of my friends, although it hurt, was the best thing that could have happened. I realized that I didn't need to always be the pleasure and trying to make people that are always bitter - happy, doesn't work.

My father on the other hand, is the Capricorn with the Cancer moon. He is retiring from his 34 years in law enforcement this year. I know it is hard on him, but he is also happy to let it go and start to travel. He, like you, it watching someone he loves start to erode. My abuela (grandmother) is dying. She is old and has many problems, but she is SPUNKY!!! I listened to so many old stories this weekend and learned more about my family in that 2-days than I had ever really known. My father also said goodbye to one of his sisters a few months ago. My aunt died of ovarian cancer.

Right now I am updating my mom's AOL and getting ready to go pick her up from work. I was in her shop, getting my hair done, for about 4 hours. I am a little frazzled as a few month ago I went from my normal brown hair with highlights to a darker brown with a rich red. I wanted to go back to my highlights, but my hair turned orange


Needless to say, my mom is an expert at this stuff, so a few hours later, lots more attention and my hair is back to normal. But me being a Saggie that loves my hair...well, I let a couple of arrows fly and my sensitive Cancer Sun / Cancer moon momma was kind of sad. But everything is cool now...she got back at me with a few of her own quips.


Hey Lioneye...I totally miss you all. It feels like forever and a day. I will check in tomorrow. Mom has to work and it will give me time to catch up.

Take Care!!!

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