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lioneye68
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posted October 11, 2003 02:14 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I love all the ladies here, I truly do. But it seems so unbalanced without a healthy dose of testosterone around here. I personally really notice the lack of it, and it just seems dull without it.

Now, granted it could be because astrologically I'm made up of predominately male signs, Leo X 4, Aqua moon and Saggie rising, but I notice that we all seem more insprired when there's male energy in the mix.

So, I think we should all try to recruit a male friend or two, and while we're at it, introduce them to Linda, and enlighten them about astrology. Hey, it could lead to an increase in Linda's book sales!
What do you think?

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silverbells
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posted October 11, 2003 02:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I tried, but it was a no-go. I didn't do it because of the lack of male energy though, I did it because I thought that this guy would benfit immensely from being around everyone here. He is a very sensitive soul but I guess it isn't his time. You are right I was thinking about the lack of males here just a couple of weeks ago. Maybe most guys are uncomfortable with being so open about their feelings.

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lioneye68
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posted October 11, 2003 02:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, that's prolly part of the problem, but they don't have to necessarily talk about their "feelings", though. They can just share their opinions and stuff. Thing is, most males don't really care to understand what motivated others. They just say, "Ah, Pis$ on it" when people behave in ways they don't get. Woman try to see the good in everyone, and try to come around to some kind of understanding. Woman are just naturally more evolved usually. USUALLY, that is. But certainly not always. There's certainly exceptions to that.

We need males who are exceptional in the sense that they genuinely WANT to understand people better.

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silverbells
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posted October 11, 2003 03:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh that is so true about what you said about most men not trying to understand motivations behind behaviour. Have we ever had any Aries men around here (Aries presumably being the "manliest man").
And I have noticed that this manly sign don't really care to even try to even think about what makes the other person tick. Hopefully I wrong about Aries. Yes, I am wrong.

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lioneye68
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posted October 11, 2003 03:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, your not wrong at all. Aries are generally like "This is what I think. Do you fit that? No? Ok, see ya!" It has to do with their driven nature. Molly-coddling is a waste of precious time to them because they're way too impatient and eager to "get going". Unless they have stong water or Libra energy going on, that is.

But we're digressing. So, ok we prolly can't get any Aries men to come here. I can live with that. I'd prolly just fight with them anyway.

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jason from oz
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posted October 11, 2003 05:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I dont know why anyone would say that women are usually more evolved, it may look that way if your only looking at the surface. Men generally are generally completely reluctant to pretend that the current state they and most of the world are in is physically, emotionally, financially, environmentally and otherwise dire. Most women though can "keep face" like everything is fine. So you might say that men are generally more genuine. But you might argue that women are more optimistic, I sometimes think that ,but at the end of the day its men i find that allow others their freedom more, it doesnt seem that way, ie grouchy fathers, but in my exp its judgemental narrow minded mothers and fathers who have to do all the dirty work, because they are "the man". AND the other thing is that men are more emotional, again it doesn't seem that way but confusian philosophy explains this, women are fem on the outside expressive, emotional, soft etc but inside are masc courageous, strong decisive,and men are the oposite. So this is why in my opinion that men dont express themselves readily, cos they get cut so much more, why do you think men get into fights? cos they care so deeply, there level of feeling runs way way deeper than girls does, actually thats why I like girls so much, because theyre so much sharper and uncomplicated, men are such stick in the muds, all the surface stuff - girls being gossipy and girly and guys being rough and manly is simply just surface stuff. After all its women who generally run an entire household, including suporting the husband who suffers emotionally from work, money stress etc a lot worse than she does. And its men who create the best art ,food etc, and no thats not just "patriarchy holding female artists back" . So dont go along with this airy fairy pc opinion that books "like conv with god "expreess, that poor women who have been repressed for so long are ACTUALLY the BETTER ones, how I hate that rubbish, its typical of feminism, being really more like female superiorism, just remember its men that had to fight in the wars mostly and men who work 70 hr weeks mostly, and men who have the weight of politics on their shoulders and womens opinions helped to cause the way of our world every bit as much as men. Of course women can argue that is the problem, that they want to do everything that men can do, but at the end of the day I know a million women who work part time in a pretty friendly job and say they refuse to take any more work or responsibility and dont have to anyway cos their husbands have high paying jobs, (not to mention the fact that he gets up at 5 every day for 40 yrs travels 3 hrs a day and works 12 hrs a day and never sees his kids ,which cuts him up more than youll ever know) AND I cant say I've ever met a bloke in the same position. The closest I know is guys who cant get employment as easy as their wives/gfriends and are home more, but thats hardly the same is it.
Sorry for taking up so much room and maybe getting off the topic,@but hey, thats the nature of conversation!
J

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Nackie
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posted October 11, 2003 10:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jason,
what the hell are you talking about?!?!

LOL
Nackie (who hopes you take the comment with the humour it was made in!)

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Cat
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posted October 11, 2003 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Lioneys
Re: "I notice that we all seem more insprired when there's male energy in the mix".
That's a Leo talking

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sthenri
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posted October 11, 2003 10:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jason I can understand where you are coming from, I think that we are all the same underneath and we are all entitled to express our emotions but men and women do not see that everyday. I do not always like the word feminism, I prefer the word liberation.

But as for men working more than women,
my grandmother worked in a coal mine as an indentured servant at 13 and then went on to open a chain of dry cleaners by herself with a sick husband. My other grandmother sold real estate and was a brilliant artist and writer. My grandfathers were brilliant too but they did only their share of their work. Women do their share plus the man's when he gets too sick and old to do it anymore. In a relationship there has to be equal work, and communication. No one wants the other to be their slave. I 've done every kind of work including agricultural work, to hospital work, for menial wages, plus free charity work, and supported a husband (with an "education")

What we need is more love between people regardless of gender, colour, race, culture, heritage, body functions, we need more love for the soul and more faith in eachother.

I honestly love people even if they are tangerine with black spots, men or women, animals too. I even love possums if that's possible. As long as one person is smarter than another, that person will always try and find a way to do less work at the other's expense, that's hard I know. It doesn't have to be a competition, because we know that competition invalidates our feelings as people and erases our humanity.

I will not compete with a man in anyway, but I will trust him, if he doesn't want to trust me then I can't be there and will fade away as a friend.

I hope we find new ways to trust in my world.
As you can see from my profile I have a lot of Aries energy myself. Aries are very sensitive but they do not have much of a political agenda about relationships. I do not like the politics of love.

Natasha
Taurus/6th house Sun
Cancer/8th house Moon
Sag Rising/conjunct Mars
Mars Aspects Midheaven

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lllog
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posted October 11, 2003 11:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey guys, what am I chopped meat??

Just kidding, I've noticed the lack of male inputs on some strings. I wonder what the ratio of male and female is here on the board. Randall, any idea?

Lanny

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lioneye68
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posted October 11, 2003 05:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cat...what can I say? I ams what I ams. But really, this board is alot more active when we have males putting their two cents into the opinion pot. Especially those who are good at expressing themselves. I dunno, it just seems to "up the ante" a little more.

Jason: I'm not interested in a battle of the sexes. I just meant that men aren't as into psycho-analyzing people who they don't "get" as woman are. They're more likely to bull-doze people into cooperation, rather the quiet manipulating that woman do. I don't mean that in a bad way. Hey, we're not suppose to be agressive, so what else can we do if we absolutely must re-direct a person or a situation, and still keep our poise intact? Perhaps saying we're more evolved was a bit much. We tend be more concerned about our relationships, though, and that's a sociological fact.

Illog, you're not too expressive at all here. I don't know a dang thing about ya, darlin!

Natasha, you're brilliant as always.

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pixelpixie
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posted October 11, 2003 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha~ I second Lioneye's observation about you. Just thought it needed to be said again.

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Ika
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posted October 12, 2003 02:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jason, i can also see where you're coming from, but i think that you're going a bit too far. I think men and women do the same thing, they always think one is better than the other, when they really should be equal. And when you said that its men who fight the wars.....you didnt say WHY there are wars in the first place....and you gotta admit they are usually created by men anyway.

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key
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posted October 13, 2003 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay. I am not sure that men or male energy or aggresive behavior is really all that welcome here.

Fine. I am a woman with sun $ moon conjuct in Aries, + mars in Aries. I came in here to lala land, tried to be funny (hilarious, I thought), spoke my mind - and got attacked for not being sensitive to others. Didn't mean to hurt anyone. Didn't plot to hurt anyone.

This website is probably better suited for the more helping / caretaker types. That is my impression, any way.

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key
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posted October 13, 2003 10:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry. I put a $ instead of a & in previous reply. Money. Thinking about it.

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Randall
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posted October 13, 2003 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Where did you feel you were attacked?

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key
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posted October 13, 2003 11:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't worry about it, Randall. It is over with and in the past. No need to drudge up anything.

Thanks, though.

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trillian
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posted October 13, 2003 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup, Jason, that was a reallllly sensitive male post of yours.

I'm with lioneye...this isn't a contest!
And...there are no absolutes.

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Aphrodite
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posted October 13, 2003 12:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natasha, I agree with every word you spoke about relationships. Right on

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trillian
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posted October 13, 2003 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep...Natasha, you make wonderful points.

A couple of years ago I saw a commercial for one of the evening talk shows, with a teaser for an interview with Barbra Streisand and James Brolin. The interviewer asked "Is this a 50/50 relationship?"

James replied "It's 100%/100%."

Bless him.

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lioneye68
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posted October 13, 2003 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Key has a good point. Part of the reason there are so few males here is because the PC police are always parolling through here.

It's no mystery that typically male or masculine styles of communicating are more edgy, and less molly coddling.

Yet, whenever someone isn't pollyanna enough, they get attacked. Some people need to loosen up. We're not THAT sensitive are we? We're not 5 years old are we? If people can't take a jab now and then, even in jest, well, they better get the heck outa Dodge. Better not ever communicate with people ever, lest they might "upset" you.

Of course, we couldn't let it go too far the other way either, or it would just turn into a slugging match, which doesn't do any of us any good.

Yeah, Key...I was a little surprised at how nasty some folks got toward you. I didn't get it.
Interesting to note, though...those that hit the hardest were also Aries, or Aries moon.

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Randall
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posted October 13, 2003 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know what you are talking about with the PC police reference, but complete freedom of expression is encouraged here (within the context of Love and Light). There are oodles of boards where someone can gossip, vent, and say just about anything. We try to keep our vibration much higher than that, and most of the time we are extremely successful at it. Attacking others for expressing their opinions or for any reason is not allowed here. Lindaland is a safe zone from the storms of the world.

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key
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posted October 13, 2003 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lioneye68 -

Well, what can I say? I love a leo - always love a leo. Guess this place is no different than the "real world". Leos have always been my helpers, and my most loyal friends / supporters. Plus they make me laugh and warm me up inside. Thanks, lioneye68!

Aries types say what they think. I appreciate and understand that quality. Okay. I might even have that quality. Aries people don't usually hold grudges, though. I know I don't. Certainly hope that the Aries types around here don't hold grudges. Do you? Cause I am probably someone you might really enjoy hanging out with.

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Randall
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posted October 13, 2003 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have always enjoyed your Posts, Key. Don't know how I missed the attack, but I find your thought-provoking words very uplifting.

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lioneye68
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posted October 13, 2003 03:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Key

Randall, it's very rarely the mods or yourself who get all up in someone's face about something they've expressed. It's hypersensitive know-flakes or just argue-box know-flakes who usually do it.

In fact, I don't think I've ever seen you step in just to say "Hey, hey...that's not acceptable. Watch your step" (although there's been times when I was expecting it)

It's hard for the guys here to really feel comfortable being honest, too because they're so outnumbered by females, who quickly get fired up over anything "typically male". Some people have built up resentments and baggage that they huck at anyone who reminds them of the person(s) who caused them hurt. It's misdirected anger I guess.

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