posted October 23, 2003 08:33 AM            

But the kinkiest guy I've ever known had tons of Gemini, including Venus and Mars in Gem.

posted October 23, 2003 12:15 PM              

He liked sex toys too.

posted October 23, 2003 09:13 PM            

Personally, so long as a couple of someones are enjoying the ride, I don't care at all what toys they use!

posted October 24, 2003 10:06 AM            

OMG, I have Mars in Pisces too (in my 6th house) and I find that people love to open up to me about their sex lives. The thing is my Saturn in the 8th just about has a total epileptic fit while my Venus is the 3rd cringes at rough talk.

I also find, that with my friends that do have sexual problems, it is easy for me to listen and talk to them about it.

Another thing I have noticed about Mars in Pisces is that we spend a lot of time, daydreaming about what we want (having it in my 6th I see myself dreaming about what I want to accomplish before doing it) and then we go get it. It's like we have to totally feel it first, on a dream level before we can actualize it.

posted October 24, 2003 11:48 AM            

My Pisces Mars is in the 7th house, both Venus and Mercury are in Aries in the 8th,natural home for Scorpio/sex...soooo, I don't mind the rough talk, I don't mind what people need to be, well, happy sexually. Oh, there are exceptions--I have no room in my world for true deviants, those who want children or animals, etc. But between consenting adults, well, generally I'm interested and fascinated by people's sexuality, but don't care to judge them for their needs. After all, we choose ourselves and our tastes/needs on a much higher level than this one...

posted October 25, 2003 03:14 PM              

Does anyone else have Venus in the 4th? Mine is in Aries too and Mars and Ascendant in Sag (1st house) and I am happy with plain talk but only if it's not done in a way that does not shock and offend those who are more sensitive. There are lots of ways to desensitive a person. I am either totally turned on, or off, no in betweens. Luckily it comes and goes quickly so I can wait until evening for the feeling to come back again.

I do not like fantasy much because lots of times, I just want a little not a lot, and the fantasy wears me out. I prefer to be spontaneous with small bursts of affection. Venus in Aries I think is like that. Sometimes you get what you want and you don't want it anymore because it wasn't what you needed, or you just wanted a little not a lot. Other times it's someone else's fantasy which feels unjustified and shallow to me. It has to come from my own security not from the partnership. In other words I like it to be mostly my idea so I feel comfortable with it.

I am very INVENTIVE already so not much bothers me but I like to be in on the decision. Scorpios tend to fantasize a lot and you have to guess what they are thinking. I prefer a very verbal partner. "Like CNN, constant updates" Libras make wonderful lovers, one kiss and they are revved and ready to be molded to your desires.

I think more of "desire", than imagination or fantasy, and worshipping and adoring someone's body rather than fooling around. I find it almost impossible to fantasize and stay faithful in my mind, because I want to go do it now. Words are important to me, but it's also how happy a person looks all around, if someone is sad that I like and looks vulnerable I am more attracted which is not always good. Must be Neptune in the 12th, and the 8th house Moon. I can be a real prude with slang, pornography and sleazy sex, strippers and those sorts of establishments. I do not like the **** and Ass mentality of the US.

As Lenny Bruce, Time magazine has features of Billy Graham right next to an ad for a new Las Vegas Strip Club, and what's the attraction? **** and Ass, Ass and **** , Class with Ass, will anyone buy that? He was so right on, he had an 8th house moon too, with Mars in Sag, and Ascendant in Sag, with a Mercury in Libra, he could really reel off the zingers. It was well known though that he was really a prude about sex, according to his friends when he died. He married and divorced a stripper, to save her from that life, but he got swamped by it. I could see that he was trying to get rid of the dirtiness of sex but he couldn't, it's too ingrained in the US culture. You would never know by his stand-up act, but I knew by the 8th house moon. 8th moons are very reserved and obsessed with secrecy anyway, anything secret must be revealed. I feel that Saturn in the 8th kind of works the same way except that Saturn in the 8th also does not want to talk about it as much as me because of my strong Sag and mercury in Gemini in the 7th.

I do not like it when people "walk the walk" but won't "talk the talk" A hypocrite is not someone who talks the talk and refuses to walk down that road, everyone has the right to talk as much about sex as they want, how else can we combat ignorance and disease? We can change our minds, people can do that, we are entitled to our own individuality and new ideas regarding sex, no one has to be consistent. I went through my whole, save the stripper thing where I "rescued" a stripper because as she put it "she had no choice", well all the choices later she went right back to it and worse and broke my heart. All I can say is you get what you expect, no more, no less out of life. I couldn't help her, smart girl too, a Scorpio. It's arrogant to think you can help people when you can't even help yourself, plus it's to make you feel good and you know it. I was pretty arrogant when I was younger. I'm no social worker, your problems are your problems, I learned that via my bleeding Sag rising heart.

McDonalds is consistent, but people are never happy that way, everyone needs change and spontaneity, if I don't have it I will go crazy. I think the more sex is talked about, the more couples stay together, communication is key. If fantasizing about your hairdresser helps you make love to your wife, more power to you, but she or he better not be me because you will tell me and then I would take it too seriously, and get turned on? confused? I can't listen sometimes...