posted October 30, 2003 09:16 AM              

Sun in Scorpio

By Rev. Alice Miller

The Sun enters Scorpio on October 22. To be born in Scorpio means that the Spirit of Scorpio energizes your life with power, passion, and magic. Scorpio confers depth, intensity, and the power generated from concentrated attention and shared objectives. Scorpio is the evolutionary level at which consciousness becomes fully creative.

Scorpios must claim the creativity of their spiritual genetics, learning to create by the power of the word. This takes two basic forms. One form is ritual and the ritualistic use of affirmations and visualizations. A side-effect of this is the discovery that applying emotion to our goals naturally intensifies them, when we declare it to be so. In the end, emotion has no power of its own, but we give it power by our declaration. Scorpio is also the sign of relational and social values, of shared goals and cooperative effort. A basic expression of this is reproduction, and two mundane expressions are mutual funds and political action groups.

Scorpio=s reputation for passion is well-known. What may not be recognized is that sex is only one form of passion. We can be passionate about many things, and Scorpios usually are. They become manipulators and sex addicts only when the environment offers them no rights or opportunities to use their inherent power. For this reason, earlier generations of women had difficulty with this placement, producing the negative energy attached to the term Witch and its slangy relative.

Scorpio=s real power is based on a fusion of Spirit, Soul, and Body. When Spirit is directed through form consciously, we become fired up, intensely committed to and focused upon some intended action. We are passionate about it. Our passion electrifies the idea and our concentration on it attracts the necessary substance for manifestation. This is the principle of true magic which is innate in Scorpio. It can look more like procreation than creation.

In the highest sense, Scorpio is born invested with power, a symbolic priesthood, intended to lead groups of like-minded people. The raising of power in a pagan circle is one application. The healing energies of prayer groups is another. When Christian and Pagan understand the similarity of principles underlying prayer and ritual, the world will see such a new force for healing and empowering humanity as has never before been envisioned.

The ultimate power of Scorpio is Love. When we value all humankind, when we acknowledge our commonalities and value our differences, we will truly be the children of our Creator-Creatrix. Then, and only then, will we have the right to spread out across the Solar System and the Galaxy, taking our message of hope and healing to other worlds.

Moon in Scorpio

The Scorpio Moon represents the need to invest our individuality into the structure of society. Given the social conditioning of the past, it can be experienced as a need to invest our individuality in union—the union of marriage, tribe, culture, nation, etc. Remember that a good investment increased your principle. If your investment is not paying dividends, you need to re-invest elsewhere.

Scorpio Moon Mother

The Scorpio Moon Mother was suffering the effects of an abusive relationship—usually with her mother—during the bonding period. Although her attention was turned away from you, her emotions were so intense that they overwhelmed you. You have much of her power-struggle in the base of your emotional structure. This can feel like a struggle with her, but it is really a kind of reliving of her memories.

Very often, these mothers have used the struggle against their abusers to power their transformation. You can tap that power, to effect your own emotional transformation when you realize that the power struggle is not between the two of you.

Such struggles generate a great deal of power. Giving up the struggle allows this power to be used for creation—especially in the form of money and other values. This Moon is intended to transform emotional energy into tangible goods—to feed the economy—which means having a generous flow of money in your life. No fair stockpiling! This money is meant to be kept moving. If you wish to save for a large purchase, invest the savings in growth funds so that they stay active.

Special Comment: Often this is interpreted as a need for sex. What you are really experiencing is a perceived need for bonding, due to having had a distracted mother who created a poor bond. Sex is the only adult form of dropping boundaries that compares to the mother-child bond. It is important to expand the meaning of passion, allowing yourself to express passion in some other ways. It is also important to realize that you are a highly evolved being who has outgrown the need for a strong mother-child bond. If you were not, you would not have survived. Let go the intent to fill the void, let it control your life.

Scorpio Rising

This placement suggests that you look powerful. However, almost the only way that adults every assign power to small children is through blame. Whatever happens, this child will, most likely, be told, A It=s all your fault.@ (See the power in that?) Of course, it is seldom or never true that the child caused that which is being blamed on him or her.

Scorpio Rising is often told that it is not-good (not-Taurus) or not good enough. In the past such children were sometimes told that they were of the devil, or that they had a devil in them. The simple truth is that this is a parental self-evaluation, projected on the child. Ultimately, it represents their opinion is that nothing good can come from them.
Scorpio Rising may also be the competent oneBas opposed to another (usually a sibling) who is the incompetent one. The problem with this is that it usually entails taking on much responsibility, because the native can do so much. It is as thought competency carries an obligation to enable incompetency.

The good news is that Scorpio is the sign of transformation. It is also the natural psychologist. At some point, we realize that we have the power to change our lives. Two elements are key.

First, we must learn to love our Personal Power/Pluto as a gift of spirit. Second, we must claim and own it as our own. Part of the process is the realization that much of what was said to us came from adults who, feeling powerless in their own right, were using their parental authority or superior size to claim and use our power. These people never had any real power over us except our love for them. We believed that our love for them required us to permit them to abuse us.
We can now change our minds, and change our lives. This is the transformation available to every Scorpio Rising native.

posted October 30, 2003 10:00 AM              

Maybe I should take time to get to know you. It seems as though you think that Scorpio is a pretty cool way to be.

The only two scorps I have known really well have pretty much scared the heck out of me so pretty much I, well, I can't say I avoid getting to know them because I've not met any....so, all scorpios don't do things purposely to hurt other people. Because these two sure do. Actually....I knew one of them and he'd been doing things like that for years.

Then I found myself in a bad situation over the past few years that was so stressful and conflictual for me that I actually finally had to get medication to deal with it. Then out of the blue....It occured to me....I knew this problem...it actually was a duplicate of a problem I had finally gotten rid of a few years before.

only this time is was a woman....not a man.
and not my spouse....but a business aquaintance.

Wow...and I was in the same position.
For my ex spouse, I was a filter for pretty much the whole world. I had to stand between him and everyone...friends, family, co-workers....because he would do and say things that hurt people. Well, he did that to me too, but it was okay..at the time because I ~LOVED~ him.

So, guess what I am doing now. I am helping this business aquaintence of mine who is actually fighting breast cancer run her business. For her....I have become a filter...between her and her employees, customers...and anyone else that might get hurt.

Am I a creature of habit or a glutton for punishment. I can't tell.

At least now as she goes about her normal ways of speaking to me like I'm an idiot, nickle and diming me to death, and out right saying things that really hurt my feelings, I just laugh to myself and feel happy that I actually have control over this and I am not letting it bother me.

Actually, I read this really cool book that teaches four really intense and enlightening things about how we communicate with others.
One of them is...Don't take things personally. People use their black magic, which is what he calls hateful words...mean things....in an attempt to make others feel bad, because basically, they feel bad. So..it is really about something going on inside of them...and not about the person they are projecting the black magic towards.

Anyway...I am living in San Diego, I thought I would say hello because we are fellow Coloradan's. As soon as my friend is done with this breast cancer thing I am moving back home....I wanted to leave last year, but stayed to help her.

posted October 30, 2003 10:15 AM              

I would consider you left-dominant. The "blurring" is probably caused by living in a right-dominant world.

posted October 30, 2003 10:27 AM              

The keyword for Scorpio is "intensity" so whatever a Scorpio is, they are intensely so. Like the little girl "with a curl in the middle of her forehead" of nursery rhyme, "when they are good, they are very, very, good and when they are bad, they are horrid."

In the older generations, Scorpio rarely worked well for females because society confined women's personal power to the role of manipulating and controlling their mates and/or children. Because they could only use power through others, many of them became bitter. A bitter Scorpio can be quite dangerous because their thoughts and words carry considerable creative power. (The legend of the "evil eye" is definitely Scorpionic!)

Scorpio has, traditionally, worked better for males. However, even the best of them have some tendency to manipulate others, if only "for their own good."

As concsiousness rises in the general population, Scorpios everwhere will get a better grasp of the power that they have and what it is intended to do. Their's is the task of working "modern magic" which is really just the use of the creative side of human consciousness. If we could train them all as metaphysicians, they would become a powerful force for good.

In time, that will happpen. Meanwhile, we can all learn from them. The abilities and powers that they have are latent in us all. We simply have not "remembered" them yet.

posted October 30, 2003 10:47 AM              

I am surprised with your short response, am I being a bit too friendly, inquisitive, or something?

This is all stuff that I need to know, that I really want to know. I try to better myself always. I don't know very much about astrology. Before I came here, I thought I knew something but in comparison I know only a grain of sand.

Your words...your descriptions seem to also be explained according to religion. This is something I've not seem before. I am quite pleased with what I have read.

Actually...I was so blown away by it I had to call people in here and show them.
What initially freaked me out about this stuff and what I learned was that I am the total description of Linda's Libra. Hardly even a slight variation. I loved what I learned and I have used it to better myself...and my life and to help me relate to others better.

OK...but what I saw on your page really is ...well, I will just explain it to you.

You say something about Libra there that is something I have never heard anyone say or write before. It is pretty much something that I believe to be true...something that I have learned over time that I believe that God wants me to learn during my life time.

I tell people this. I always tell people this. And you have it written right there...

actually, I really love your definition
Altruism gone crazy.

That is me.
I believe that the lesson that I need to learn in my life time is that It is not good for me to be as selfless as I have always been.

I love what you said....all of it....and freakishly enough...it's all me.

Actually, Alice, can't you see it there in what I asked you before? That is what my problem is with the two Scorpios....My ex husband....my friend now....I am a giver, I give too much...and the problem is especially bad when I have someone in my life who is a taker.

Both of these people are....I gave everything to my exhusband...I didn't want anything for myself in return, I just wanted him to find happiness. I worked his hours, I gave him the money, I gave him all of the love I could possibly give....I didn't want him to give me anything in return, I thought that I was so full of love, happiness and all things that are good that he wouldn't have a chance but to let go of his negative aspects and just be happy.

So, here we are...24 years later. In the end I finally had to make myself accept the fact that instead of him changing...becoming happy...more caring and loving...instead I had knots in my stomache all the time...living in fear of what he might say or do...and living in constant confilct eventually began to make me ill.

Anyway...long story short...before I knew what was going on..and without realizing it, Scorpio or not...enter the next important person an big part of my life...and, wow, guess what, she will gladly take all I've got as well. Same as he did..and then make me feel bad as well. I have grown over the years though. I also know that I am as much as the problem or even more so. I am responsible for how I feel...and now, I am growing daily. I am not allowing her to take advantage of me the way he did.

Well...I'm not anymore.
I pretty much did the first few years because of course, it is my mission to make sure that everyone is happy.

If I feel that I have been any type of displeasure to anyone...at any time for any reason...It really bothers me.

I am going back to read some more of your stuff.

posted October 30, 2003 11:09 AM              

You know I am enthralled and on the edge of my chair.

Yes, they are both intense....it overwhelms me. When I read the description of scorpio in the sun sign book inside I feel the conflict and intensity of just the way they are described.

And, oh my, yes....my ex could be so nice..and it would give me hope. My friend now..sometimes I actually will allow myself to believe that FINALLY she has come around...and then...as I said before...she will come at me with something that is so awful and full of hate I actually have to recover from it, come to terms with it...but, at least now I do that, with my exhusband I just would allow it to hurt me..I spent way too much time crying.

And...then...wow, Alice, Her mother was a scorpio and I always try to understand that in addition to being a scorp the relationship that she had with her mother was damaging to her. You know what I'm going to say next...right? You have described her mother exactly. She was controlling and manipulative until the day she died. She did horrible things to her out of pure meanness...and you know what, my friend does the exact same thing. Of course being as naieve as I am when she was doing those things to me I didn't know, or just didn't want to think that she was actually doing them on purpose...to hurt me...or to teach me a lesson before even a warning signal had been given to me. Then...I got the opportunity, and actually still get to regularly to see her do those same things to other and actually tell me how she is doing it on purpose, to make the suffer, teach them a lesson ....I tell ya, it makes my tummy turn upside down

She is everything a scorpio woman is supposed to be. She isn't married, she is very intolerant of pretty much everything and hasn't been able to find someone who she finds interesting but also will allow her to ...well, now I know...dominate them.

Definitely no children...she was afraid she would be like her mother.

She is into tarot...alternative medicines...always knows more than the doctor...etc.

I have to read the rest of your site.

So..you aren't a scorp

posted October 30, 2003 11:13 AM              

no wonder I was confused

posted October 30, 2003 11:14 AM              

I read your article on Capricorn and enjoyed it. I wish there had been more written on the Capricorn Moon.

Best,

posted October 30, 2003 02:13 PM              

I am a 37 year old scorpio woman.
I loved your piece on scorpios.

Only in the last 4 years have I realised the power within. It scares me and invigorates me at the same time.

At times, when I'm really in touch with it, I "ride" with it for a bit, then squelch it. I know I could do great things with it, in fact, am making great sacrifices, putting myself through an entire transformation, and career transition.

*out of the corporate world and into the healing arts.

At times, when I'm in tune with my power (which BTW, isn't of me, but from above), I feel I'm being grandiose or delusional.

Then I slip back into being mediocre. Settling for less. Where are the mentors? Where / with whom, can I connect with others who have ideas and hopes and dreams and a calling, to do great things? I don't know it all, not even close, and I need a teacher.

I know I'm on this earth to affect change. I have a desire to begin a non-profit group for women in transition. Offering financial, emotional and practical support to women in transition, like myself. Going through this can be lonely, and I see a need for it.

Rather than hurt anyone else out of my own frustration and life restrictions and lack of resources and confidants, I only seek things more intensely, get more determined. Or. . . I let the power implode in on itself, into me, rather than outwardly.

I agree that we need lots of love. Everyone does.

The difference between me climbing (or moving) the highest mountains, or settling for a life of mediocrity, is love and nourishment and support.

I'm looking for my other half. I feel that I will not be complete w/out him by my side.

I scare alot of men! I am not flattering myself, but I tell you this with as much humility as I possibly can: I am intense, beautiful, creative and intelligent.

Again, I scare men. Being all these things, I feel, is a liability. I fear I will live out my life, and die, alone.

I'm seeking my twin flame, but I have not yet found the one brave enough, secure enough, centered enough, and just plain loving (and light hearted enough) to handle me. I'm not malicious. Just intense. I love hard, very hard. And I work hard, and I play hard.

Thank you for your beautiful words on Scorpios. We are VERY complex creatures, very complicated, and very misunderstood.

Thank you for understanding. Here's hope that, over time, will come greater understanding.

posted October 30, 2003 02:40 PM            

I just browsed your site and landed on the sample Lifeprint reading for an Aqua sun, Cappy rising and Gem moon.

I was astounded by the parallels to my own life. I have the Aqua and Cappy placement with Virgo moon.

My question is: how can the basically same childhood be the same for two different charts/people?

That was really uncanny I actually wanted to hug this person because I k-now how that childhood was.

juniperb

posted October 31, 2003 03:26 PM              

Lordy! The scorpio rising description was PERFECT. Scorp sun/rising son and Aries sun/moon conjunct mother here. I could write books on our relationship, and books on my son's ability to rebound. But, I guess you have heard it all before.

Linda Goodman was an Aries with a Scorpio son. That is what attracted me to astrology in the first place - not astrology so much as how she coped with their situation. I still remember watching her on TV years ago. She told of how she kept nagging her Scorpio son, and it only made him go the opposite direction. When she let him find his own way, their relationship improved. Just back off. Count to 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50. Very hard to do.

Say a prayer for me when you are in church this Sunday. I'll be reading the paper and having my coffee/bagel.

xo

posted October 31, 2003 04:02 PM            

juniperb

posted October 31, 2003 10:23 PM              

My son is a Nov. 6 and I'm an April 6. Reading about the Reverand's description of Scorpio Rising makes me feel bad, because that describes how I have acted as a mother - in the past.

posted October 31, 2003 10:44 PM              

I just checked out your website. Thanks a million! Cap rising here, and your description fits! I try to take care of people, and it gets draining.

posted November 01, 2003 11:29 AM            

Oh yes, we had out moments .

juniperb

posted November 01, 2003 01:44 PM              

Firestar: I am an Aries who "looks like" a Scorpio-my rising sign--and with a Sagittarius Moon, Mars, N. Node....lots of Sag. How about a pioneering "psycologist"-metaphysician using the language of astrology.

For the one who mentioned it, I am spiritually ecclectic with a strong belief in a God/dess that does not care what we call it. That does not ususally fit into the existing religious structures. I consider my "calling" and my "mininstry" to be Astrology.

Aphrodite: To learn more about your Moon, you can purchase the book "The Soul of Astrology: Inner Dimensions of the Modern Moon" from the "Books" page of the site.

Astrid: Yes you are correct. Scorpio power does not come from us, but through us. Often the most powerful use of it is to trade in "will power" for "willingness power." Say something like "I am willing to do/be/become this or that. Show me the way."
This would be particularly useful around the issue of an "other half." You may discover that yours is inside, not outside. You sound pretty whole to me, not lacking either half.
As for your fears....visualize a "mantle of power" around yourself and you need fear nothing, especially not being alone.

Juniperb: Generally speaking the outlines of childhood are determined by the wheel of the chart (houses) and especially the horizon. This will show a type of experience which is common to all with the same or a similar wheel. The placements within the wheel will show variations. We all have what might be called "astrological relatives"...meaning people with similar charts and similar experiences. When we meet these people (and you could be said to have met this person via the site) they provide a mirror. In doing so, we can learn more about ourselves and we can know that we are not being singled out for certain expereinces, but that they happen to other people also.

Key: Congratulations. Clearly you are learning what you intended to learn. I would also say that I believe that while we have to agree to it, our children choose us. So you were the (kind of) mother he wanted....and just maybe, part of his intent was to teach you. The younger generations really are wiser? more evolved? than we were at their age.

posted November 01, 2003 05:48 PM              

I am in Aries who still in Love with a Scorpio man. If you read my post
"In Love with a Scorpio Man" you see how madly I'm into this man. I found this site after reading Linda's book. With her son being a scorpio and she an Aries I related to their relationship.
My Scorp's birth -day is Nov.5th, we haven't spoken since Aug. He has such a hold on me that it's hard to move on, but he has moved on and clearly doesn't want me in his life, but why do I have the instinct/feeling that he still NEEDS me?

I read everything on your site regarding Aries.
Nice and Clear

Thanks

posted November 02, 2003 03:42 PM              

That was such a kind comment - that my son chose me and that I wanted him to choose me. Because, Juniperb, my son didn't get a mom like you, he got a more traditional one. I have always wanted him to work just a little harder, to study more, to act on his opportunities - and to go by the rules. In the past, I have been on his case - paving the way, fixing things up, and trying to force him into a mold. It all backfired, and the very core of me has been changed. Who am I to control another person? That is the message I have been given through my son. And this son is pretty amazing. Thanks again, Reverand, and I like your approach to religion.

posted November 03, 2003 10:31 AM              

I have been thinking about more of goddess theory, especially after reading - The Da Vinci Code - by Ken Brown

posted November 03, 2003 11:16 AM              

I see that you are -
"an Aries who "looks like" a Scorpio-my rising sign--and with a Sagittarius Moon, Mars, N. Node....lots of Sag. How about a pioneering "psycologist"-metaphysician using the language of astrology."

posted November 06, 2003 06:49 PM              

Very interesting . . . sort of like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. . .

. . .looking and looking and looking for her way, only to be told that it was there, inside.

I appreciate , and understand, that.

Still, I pine for a suitable companion.
A best friend and lover.

Life is cyclic. a decade and a half in a bad marriage, and 3 years now since divorce. I guess it's my time to be with myself. Lots of changes happening in my life right now, residence, job, all very transient. I've got wanderlust as well as an intense need to lay down roots. I want to lay down roots, but not until I find the right place. I've been on the go go go for 3 years, and I'm tired!
And . . . I'm not normally prone to lonliness, but I can't be the happy, strong, solid rock all the time--especially when by myself. I AM independent, and need my times of solitude to recharge, yet, I do not have a hermit/loner personality. Not at all. Love and companionship is my fuel. I'm running at about 65%. I am lonely lately. Hence my words about traveling through life alone. No fun!