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N
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posted November 04, 2003 03:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
is there any end to leo or aries? i'm a double sag and my father a double aries!!!???

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lioneye68
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posted November 04, 2003 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If by "end to" you mean 'cease to exist', I'd have to say.... NEVER!!! BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA

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pidaua
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posted November 04, 2003 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's so funny, I have never seen so many problems with fire signs. LOL.. Aries and Leo again?

Hey N. who is the Leo in the mix. I think it would be a bit harsh to have a double Aries dad and be a Sag. Aries are very set in their ways and can try to stifle the little archer in you.

My dad is a Capricorn with a cappy rising and I am a Sag with an Aries moon. Let's just say we had out battles. LOL

You should tell us a bit more so that we can help.

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trillian
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posted November 04, 2003 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Triple Aries here, with Leo rising...and that Aries sun is in the 9th house (natural house of Sag)!

So. You got a problem wit me or what?

Pet a Leo right and you've a furry friend for life!
Let an Aries lead a little, and you'll also have a friend for life. So there. Problems solved.

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Aphrodite
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posted November 04, 2003 08:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The quickest way to lose an Aries . . .

Be boring . . . very boring . . . sooo boring . . .

Okay, now I am bored. Bye!

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N
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posted November 04, 2003 11:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok here r the more details.
me: sun sag, moon sag, asc virgo
dad: sun aries, moon virgo, asc aries
mom: sun leo, moon sag, asc capri.

and they are ALL OVER ME!!! :-(

but its the aries dad who is the real b******

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trillian
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posted November 05, 2003 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Was it Linda, or Debbi Kempton-Smith, who said of a Leo "I can't accept you as an equal until you acknowledge my superiority!"

N, you're the mutable of the bunch. Stop fighting, let them believe what the want...stroke 'em a bit and smile adoringly.

Hey, it can't hurt!

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N
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posted November 05, 2003 12:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but don't i have a danger of standing manipulated in life?

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Aphrodite
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posted November 05, 2003 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh . . . umm . . . parents

I remember when I lived with mine, eek. They always talked over me, than with me. Annoying as hell.

You seem pretty young. Are you living with them? Appears like it

I don't know what the culture is like in India, or if you are male or female. I don't know what the situation is, or if you have a job to support yourself in the event you must become independent. Advice is a two way street.

The true end for most mortals is death. Just being pragmatic. Then it's the story we run in our heads after they're gone. What anyone else says outside of what's between you and your parents will always be an incomplete, and slightly inaccurate depiction.

Just saying how it is from an abstract point of view, as I think a Sagittarius like yourself would probably like it.

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pidaua
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posted November 05, 2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL.....No N, you don't. Mutable means adaptable, not easily led or manipulated.

You are also blessed with an analytical rising sign that gives you a great perspective on life.

Sagittarians are adaptable, yes, but we are also very strong in our convictions. Just think of how many times your parents have tried to put you in your place, only for you to "escape". It is the way we are. LOL

We see everything as a challenge to our freedom. It will get easier and they will understand at some point that you cannot be controlled, but you can be somewhat tamed.

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key
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posted November 05, 2003 01:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm sorry, N, but I can't help but laugh! My mother is a Leo Sun/Moon/Ascendant (Yes, a real STAR), and my dad is an Aries Sun/moon, & Cancer Ascendant, and I'm an Aries Conjunct Sun/Moon, & Capricorn Ascendant. I have an Aries Sun & Sag Moon/rising daughter.

Your comments are hilarious. Everybody is the boss and knows it all! I can only imagine! I promise you that these very same people who drive you nuts right now will be the same people you will be so immensely proud of one day (when you are looking back!) Remember - those manipulative parents of yours CARE ABOUT YOU. Maybe it is not the astrological sign combinations that are the problem. Sometimes, when you have lived a little longer - like your parents - you can forsee problems that might arise in the future (from experience). They love you very much, and are doing their best to shield you from a potentially harsh world.

Please give them a big hug tonight and tell them how much you love them. Cause you do.

I guess the above advice was given by a true Aries!

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trillian
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posted November 05, 2003 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
N, my point was not for you to be manipulated, but to manipulate the situation yourself. You know what they want, what they require, so, on certain levels, you can give that to them without sacrificing the integrity of who you are. Be respectful, meet them halfway, while keeping your mind free.

I know parents of two sons. One was always off doing his own thing, blowing off curfews, never phoning home, and subsequently, always in trouble and getting grounded.
The other son always phoned home, met his curfews and was respectful. He always got everything he wanted...

...and both boys were pretty much doing the same things, out with their friends, girls, etc., nothing nefarious.

Of course, you've been very very general. We don't know your situation, or your culture, but I wish you well.

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N
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posted November 05, 2003 01:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello all. i truly acknowledge ur replies. by the way, i'm a fire sign to so i have some 'hot' problems within my self too! the biggest one being obsession. i get obsessed about things that capture my mind and then speak all day about it sometimes ending up saying what i should not. maybe that's why my aries dad thinks i need to be grounded. the fact is i learn more when i'm given more time and then i end up comming with a solution too! but obsession problem is what i just recently realised.
anyway, i'll get back to u later tomorrow. got to sleep. bye

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key
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posted November 05, 2003 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What Trillian said -

"I know parents of two sons. One was always off doing his own thing, blowing off curfews, never phoning home, and subsequently, always in trouble and getting grounded.
The other son always phoned home, met his curfews and was respectful. He always got everything he wanted..."

is worth repeating.

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key
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posted November 07, 2003 01:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi N -

Are you okay?

Thought you would enjoy some of my favorite quotes on family:

"I am he as you are he
as you are me
and we are all together."

- beatles

"The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and be loved in return"

- Moulin Rouge

"And it ain't about the money
it ain't about the time
it ain't about the love you lost or the things you think you left behind
it aint about your losing streak
makes you feel like you're falling apart
what matters is the heart"

- E. mccain

"This is my family. I found it, all on my own. It's little, and broken, but still good. Yeah, still good."

- lilo and stitch

"Remember as far as anyone knows,
we're a nice normal family."

- Homer Simpson

"Storm clouds may gather and stars may collide, but I love you, until the end of time."

- Moulin Rouge

"Ohana means family,
family means nobody gets left behind.
Or forgotten."

- lilo and stitch

"Lean on me,
when your not strong,
and I'll be your friend,
I'll help you carry on.
For it won't be long,
'till I'm gonna need
somebody to lean on."

"Remember, you are not alone. Everybody's family is crazy."

- Jeff Foxworthy

"All you need is love, love
Love is all you need."

- beatles




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N
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posted November 07, 2003 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
true. but these are just excuses one coud give to him/her self. the fact is the my fmaily is a fuckingly stupid leo lady who is uneducated (though not illiterate) and is pouncing on us to ruin our mental peace and thus three male fire signs are wasting their life; me doulble sag, dad double aries and brother leo.
and otherwise also such assumption are always excuses when u give to ur self while fighting with a leo. what's there is there. the trouble is there and that is the leo mom. and we i can't just go on thinking that its all ok.
someoen give me a trick to murder her!!!

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aries-chick
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posted November 08, 2003 02:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Okay, I think you've gone a bit out of line (i'm saying a bit to be nice). You don't want to murder your own mom. Whatever she is doing to anger u so much, i'm sure she only wants what's best for u, your brother and your dad. I know that leos can be overbearing and arrogant sometimes but they are also very warmhearted and i'm sure she loves u a lot. U should remember that before saying things like 'the trouble is my leo mom' and 'give me a trick to murder her'. Anyways, how old are you and are you a guy or a girl?

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aries-chick
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posted November 08, 2003 03:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not mentioning the fact that you called her 'f-ingly stupid'
(i just re-read that bit)

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key
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posted November 08, 2003 04:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi aries-chick -

You have a leo mom, too? Cool. I'm glad you get along with her, and maybe even cut her a break when she is less than perfect.

N -

Guess I have figured out that you didn't quite care for my family quotes. Oh, well.

Sounds like the women in India have been gaining in power, after all. My daughter's good friend (in California) has to go back to India after her education, to an arranged marriage.

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N
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posted November 09, 2003 02:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
forget it. let time give me the answer. pluto will conjunct my natal jupiter this december. lets discuss something better in a new post!

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key
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posted November 09, 2003 09:39 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I must say something else, N. Just because somone is "uneducated" - doesn't make them stupid. I know lots of very well educated people who are obtuse, narrow minded, ignorant, and not particularly bright. I know some "uneducated" who are brilliant. Maybe your Mom had no choice in her level of education.

I don't know what you are going through. Yes, it is time to not discuss this any more, because you are saying some ugly things. Educated or not educated - using the "F" word isn't appropriate on a public forum. There are more creative ways to express yourself.

Hope you learn some grace along the way.

Regards -
Key

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lioneye68
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posted November 09, 2003 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think you probably typed that post immediately after having a run in with your mom, and you were still riding the rage wave. I would hope that whatever it is you and your mother are argueing about, you are trying to see why she's holding the opinion she is holding. What's at the root of it for her? Fear of you being a failure? Fear of her looking like a bad mother? Fear of being left behind and forgotten? Anger at a lack of respect? That's one thing that really burns ME up, as a Leo mom, is when my kid displays a lack of respect for me, especially in front of other people. That sort of thing only leads to great difficulties for her, because it only results in her getting zero cooperation from me in any way shape or form. You can't treat a Leo with disrespect, then expect them to cooperate with all your little plans...oh, hell no!

You just don't know how to appeal to a Leo. If they're on your side, they'll move mountains for you, but if they think you don't respect them, or love them, or admire them or whatever...TO THE DUNGEON YOU GO!! (or to the crazy house from all the nagging a bi*ching)

N, you only get one mom, and she'll probably leave the planet before you do. Don't let your relationship with her be aweful. You'll regret it.

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key
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posted November 09, 2003 06:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are such a love, Lioneye. I mean it.

I know you are giving birth to another child shortly. This child is going to have a wonderful mom.

xo
Key

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lioneye68
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posted November 09, 2003 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am?! Do you know something I don't know???Cuz you just freaked me out beyond belief, because I'm late!

Ok, now I'm scared.

OH, you're confusing me with "Lioneyes" (no "68")...she's about to have a baby. WHEW!! Ok, I'm calm.

Where are my manners!?! Thank you for that lovely compliment!! You're probably a damn fine mom yourself, Key!

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trillian
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posted November 09, 2003 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Teenage angst, ain't it grand?

lioneye, I think you're pretty groovy too!


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