Lindaland
  Astrology
  Triple Gems for Firestar

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Triple Gems for Firestar
FishKitten
unregistered
posted November 30, 2003 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Firestar.

As I'm sure you know, Gemini's are twins. To the outsider like myself, it often seems like there are actually two different people living in the same body. But some Gems are triplets, like three people in the same body. Don't you have actual physical twin sisters? They wouldn't want to share everything they own. They each need their own belongings. Linda said a lot about this attribute of Geminis and talked about Gem triplet, but I can't remember which book. I'm probably thinking of a combination of Sun Signs and Love Signs. I've known several Gemini males (my father, two ex-husbands, a very good friend, and my current brother-in-law). I find I usually get along incredibly great with one twin, but have a variety of problems with the other. To be fair, one of the twins usually doesn't like me very much, either. Being a Pisces, I have some dualities myself, so that could be part of the conflict. Fortunately I have been given ample oportunity to resolve my difficulties with Geminis. We just stay the heck away from each other during the clash times, then have fun together when all is cool. So how are you handling it? Any Gemini's out there care to comment? I don't mean to say that you guys have a good twin and an evil twin, I just mean that I usually have different relationships with each. I have Mercury in Gemini, so I love the way you think and talk. Never boring. Not ever.

IP: Logged

firestar
unregistered
posted November 30, 2003 09:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya Fishkitten..*smile*

Thanks for sharing that. I too have noticed that for some reason I always end up surrounded by many Gems. I am currently in a long term relationship (almost five years living together) with one who is the love of my life. Things are about 95% good. He is just so...well, everything...I am madly in love with him. We have one major point of contention...I've talked to others in here about it and I pretty much have come to the conclusion that his behavior could possibly be an addiction. These behaviors are exactly what Gemini's are typically known for. We are self employed and really don't have many friends or contact with other people. We do have each other and everything is very calm, peaceful and we are very happy.

The problem that we are having is that he likes to get on the internet and talk to other women. When were first together we went through a two year period where we battled about it constantly. Things kind of blew up, I told him he had to leave, he promised not to do it anymore and then backed that up with almost two years of keeping his word. Recently it happened again. Oct 27...it started, and soon after I discovered that it was happening again, it ended. The other thing that he does that has only been an issue when dealing with this matter is lie. It doesn't matter how absurd the lie is, he will stick by it. It drives me crazy.

So..there it is...he goes on the net to flirt and talk to other women. Gemini
He's a Libra Asc...and I read someones post the other day that said that lying for them is almost always done while they are attempting to keep personal relationships harmonious.

Unfortunately he is doing it for entertainment and from past experience although the women he has relationships with are aware that this is supposed to be a fantasy type thing "cyber only"...some, but not all of them lose site of that and end up hurt in the end. So, believe it or not, because I am a softy, and because I tend to put the others feelings before mine, I end up more upset because he is hurting them.

There are many ways it has an effect on our relationship. I have different views and concerns that some people may find hard to understand when trying to give me advice.
I do know that I have to figure this out. This man is beautiful. I believe that he was sent to me by angels. I know that in a relationship you can't expect anyone to be perfect...and he, once again, seems to be on the right track.

What bothers me is this...I hadn't thought about his desire to have so many things was because each twin has to have their own. Because he is all sunshine, love and happiness almost always, I think I was underestimating the duality of his nature.
I guess I had determined that his twins were identical..or really close to it. HOWEVER..if this one who chats is the other twin, that would explain why on earth, this dear, sweet, sensetive man could be continually involved in something that causes ME...someone he loves deeply..and another pain. I have thought from the begining that this is just not like him at all, seems so NOT to be his nature.

Curious....right?
Do we accept our loved ones faults?
Can they control this...or is trying to enforce limitations on something that is a huge part of their personna eventually going to push them away?

Gemini's are supposed to be quick to leave...I do not want him to go...anyway, you asked.

*grin*

IP: Logged

firestar
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 03:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm going to bring this back to the top and hope for some ideas. Of course it is my typical Libran trait of needing input from others to make decisions that made me do it.

Natasha, you know my story...and you have given me good advice that I do appreciate but I still have concerns and questions so any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

I know that we are influenced to behave in certain ways according to our Sun/Moon/Asc...etc. I also believe that as individuals we can use this knowledge in our every day lives to interact with those around us as well as gaining great incite as to our strengths and weaknesses. I guess that what I am worried about...and wondering about is how far is it safe to go when asking or even hoping that an individual can keep from doing things or trying to be something that is part of their basic nature.

For instance...As a libra I have a really hard time making decisions about anything.
If I met someone some day that just couldn't deal with my indecisiveness and said that if I didn't change immediately or the relationship was over, then the relationship would have to end.

That may be a poor example...but what I am trying to figure out is if I should be accepting and understanding about this situation, should I impose strict guidelines and seek counceling as Natasha has suggested or should I just kick his bottom right on out of here?

I have searched all over the internet, his chart in hand looking for answers and solutions. I read the same thing over and over again....

"Because Geminis find communication intruiging, they pursue either the world of conversation."

"Since they are social at heart, it's easier for them to run off and explore the new and different rather than to work through a serious situation with an 'old' partner."

"Geminians need to keep their minds active, and can become so absorbed in a hobby or interest that they begin to neglect their partners, although this is usually quite unintentional. One lady who filled in one of my questionnaires said that her Gemini husband sometimes put his computer before her."

There is a ton of stuff, but you all know the common characteristics that I am refering to....communication with women, lying, (He is a Libra Rising, I read yesterday that they will lie to protect personal relationships, which is what he has done.) Much of the Gemini sun things that I have read talks about how Gem's tend to not be monogomous or stay in relationships for long. I have hope concerning this because of his Taurean Moon influence. I read something yesterday but can't find it now which says that he needs to find a mate who is not jealous and will allow this communication that he needs to exist.

There is one other factor which is a major point in our situation. We are self employed, we work with animals, we don't go anywhere and are not in a situation where he even has contact with people...(lol...no, I don't have him locked up)...so the internet is the only means he has to communicate.

If I need to accept this and allow it to some extent, I am willing. I have been more upset about his lying about it and trying to hide it.

The opinions of all of you...and incite from a few of you Gem's would be of much help.

Thanks

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 03:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm of such a nature that if what you described was an immutable part of another's nature, we'd just have to accept that an intimate relationship wouldn't work (I suppose as one would with an you and another if that other insisted on clear decisiveness, as you had indicated).
I'm sorry I can't be of more help, firestar

IP: Logged

FishKitten
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 04:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOPS...at the end of my last post I said my Mercury was in Gemini. I meant to say my Mars is in Gemini. My Mercury is in Pisces.

Anyway, Firestar...no one can or should tell you whether it is time to, as you put it, "kick his bottom out of here". I do, however, think some kind of counseling might be in order. When you say that indecisiveness is part of your nature and you can't change that...well I can see what you mean. And perhaps Geminis have the need to communicate with a number of people. You wouldn't want to change that about the man you love even if you could. Still, if his communications with other women are of a romantic or sexual nature and result in him lying to you about it...that seems like a different thing all together. My ex-husbands that were Gems did not leave me to find greener pastures. I ended both those relationships because I found that their activities made me sad a lot of the time and affected the way I felt about myself. I guess what I am trying to say here is please just respect yourself and your needs as much as you do him and his needs. He is lucky to have someone as understanding and caring as you are.

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 04:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
To clarify, I'm not saying that what I said would be the answer for you, just that my own feelings on what he's doing completely cloud any advice that I could give you.

IP: Logged

Nackie
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 04:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, you want input from a Gemini? One with a moon in Taurus?

So what that he chats with other women on the internet? Unless he's ignoring you to spend all his time on the net with other women, I say leave him be. It's not SICK lol you guys make it sound like a disease! I don't do it myself, but I do peek into this forum all the time, and that is something similar.

Geminis don't just need intellectual stimulation--they needs lots of DIFFERENT types of intellectual stimulation. Especially, as you said, you guys work from home and never have a chance to be around other people. That must be very frightening for him! I couldn't deal with it...

I can understand the lying about it, too...would you want to tell your wife or husband that you feel the need to flirt with other women/men and risk having that poor, innocent person feeling hurt that they aren't enough for you? This is where the taurus moon comes in, I believe. I would lie about it, just so as not to hurt my hubby--why should my actions that I do out of a genuine need hurt somebody else because they know about it. Ignorance truly can be bliss.

Geminis aren't easy bears to live with, I guess. I once read somewhere that an unhappy gemini is about the least lovable house companion of all the signs.

Your hubby needs to take a little journey once in a while. He loves you so much, and respects you so much, that he takes what he needs in the least offensive way that he can. A lesser gemini might just leave you for long stretches of time, or go out and find a real woman instead of an internet one.

So, there's Nackie's Take on Life Vol. I
lol

Dunno, maybe it helped...
Nackie

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Again, why I'm not into Gems

IP: Logged

trillian
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 02, 2003 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm reading this thread with interest, as I am involved with a triple Gem (Sun, Venus and Mars!) with Virgo rising and Sag moon.

And...I'm with Nackie. I know my Gem loves to chat on the 'net, and flirt. It's not sick, it just fulfills a need, especially for one like yours, who doesn't get to interact with others much. Heck, I'd need it too! I'm a triple Aries, I love to flirt in real life (so does he!), love the buzz it gives me. But it's innocent, there are no promisies implied, it's just...fun.

There are so many flavors in life and while this may not be your favorite, I think it's reasonably palitable.

You love this man, and he loves you. I think you can work through it. Do you want to tear out your heart over this?

Here is a quote that represents one of my few philosophies of life:

"Change your perspective and you change the world." Because you're sure as heck not gonna change anybody else.

Find your way to accept him...Geminis need time away in the ethers...and with your acceptance I think perhaps he will have no need to lie to you.

In any event, I wish you the best.

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...or Aries.

But that's why there're so many different kinds of people, ya?

IP: Logged

FishKitten
unregistered
posted December 02, 2003 11:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good point, Trillian. The only person you should ever try to control is yourself. That's enough of a responsibility.

IP: Logged

Nackie
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 03:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prox, I forgot? Are you a fish? Cause I have weird feelings about fish lol My sister is one, and we just DO NOT get along. My best friend all through highschool was one, and I played saviour to her, but it was a fun relationship (mostly). I think Geminis and Pisces just THINK so differently (or maybe FEEL, I dunno :shrug Funny, though, eh? lol

To each his own, chacun a son gout! But you're right, it is the spice of life that everyone thinks differently...what would us poor gems have to talk (and talk and talk and talk) about otherwise!


@Trillian, I think Gemini and Aries are also alike in a lot of ways, in their thinking styles. Both need room to breathe and be among others but for themselves outside of the relationship. My first boyfriend was triple Aries, too...we were together for 5 years! But boy, did we fight a lot lol...

Poor Gems, no one loves us *sniff*
Nackie

IP: Logged

firestar
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 05:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow..thanks for all of the responses. I was
going to feel bad if I looked back in and no one had responded.

Ok...there are some other facts that have to be considered. I tried to include as much as possible before but didn't want to scare everyone off with an enormous amount of information.

First and foremost, I met him in chat almost 5 years ago. You know how Linda says that Libra women have a hard time making decisions but when she comes across a Gemini man who sweeps her off her feet, she may jump into a relationship quickly? Well, I am that exact Libra. We met in March of '99
and he moved here to CA from NY July 1 of that year.

Secondly, my previous marriage was really bad. My Gem always said he doesn't like to be compared to my ex, but it's hard to keep from doing that because we learn from past experiences. It shouldn't bother him, I guess I should point out to him what I'm going to tell you guys now...It's actually difficult for me to do because they are as different as night and day. I am extremely happy in this relationship except for this one issue. On a scale of 1 to 100 my ex would be down somewhere around 20, that may even be generous. This guy would get a 100 if it weren't for this...(and as I said earlier, we have actually set up a compromise and it seems to be working)..still
I have to give him a 95. Simply because he is a beautiful person. It is such a positive change from the negative hell I'd been living through.

Thirdly, (and I'm sorry if this offends anyone or causes anyone to think poorly of me but it is the truth) I don't know if it is because my first relationship of 22 years ended up sexless, or if it is because of the placement of Mars in Scorpio, but...I am very open sexually. I also made sure when I selected my new partner that, (and this might sound a bit odd, but, again, it's true)
1. He would be open minded about such things as religion and spirituality. and 2. I would never allow myself to be trapped in a sexless relationship again. No sex wouldn't of course mean no relationship but I believe that sex and love are different. Well, I guess the proper way for me to put it is that ~to me~ sex and love are different.
I think that sex is more special and fulfilling with someone you are in love with, but I will never again go for years without sex. SO...this for me transfers over to this business of him chatting with other women. He was actually having many romantic relationships. They weren't of a sexual nature, (I know this because I had tons of actual conversations)...but they were relationships where he would tell them that he loved them. THIS bothered me. He had a specific pattern, as soon as it got to the point where he felt the woman had lost the "it's only cyber" concept, he would end the relationship. I would rather he'd talked to them about sex.

Then, I found this thing this certain astrologer says about Gemini

"In personal relationships, Geminis feel misunderstood, for the emotion called 'love' is conveyed to another in an intellectual manner. Words are more important than gestures, but the other eleven signs don't respond to this kind of a demonstration of love very easily. When a Gemini says he loves you, he may love you with all his heart, but he has difficulty demonstrating that love. First of all, his intense feelings may be completely different in the morning! Second, he may feel threatened when you tell him that he is not acting as though he loves you. Neither the male nor the female wants to be put on the spot where love is concerned. Love is a lofty ideal that can be thought about, fantasized about, dreamed about. For the Gemini, the words 'I love you' might be a sufficient demonstration of affection, and might not engender another period of affection for six months. As Gemini matures, he will learn that he has to give more than mere words. And here comes the test, for Geminis often feel that the needs of the loved one involve testing, and they resent it"

Now, I am not sure what this means...but, I do believe that he is in love with me and I am positive that when he said it to other women he was not. Seriously, most of the time they would be saying things like that to each other by the second conversation.

Fishkitten...were the activities that you speak of concerning activity with other women? Thank you for saying that he is lucky.. He tells me that himself all of the time. You see...the first time, two years ago or so when it was going on, he was neglecting me. This time I was unaware of what was going on because this time he was NOT neglecting me. I think that I have been mostly worried about all of this because of the things they say about Gemini's changing quickly and leaving suddenly. I don't want him to leave. I really like him a lot. We have a great time together and the sex is outrageously awesome.

I do feel better after finally obtaining his time of birth and reading all of the things about his Taurus Moon and other aspects that make him more of a permanent fixture. I can't see finding anyone else that I would feel so comfortable with.

Nackie...I do agree with you about the lying.
I hadn't even gone that far in thought and thank you for that, that is something I will have to discuss with him. At first I worried about this transferring into a real time thing where maybe he'd be out flirting with the neighbors or something, but...he is actually extremely shy in person. This is another reason I think he is so taken with the internet...for the first time in his life he is able to communicate and is not shy online at all.

proxieme, lol...I do get your point as well.

Some how throughout my life I have always found myself surrounded by Gemini's. Both my male and female best friends are Gem's..Things seem to flow freely between us, the only difference is that both of them have a tendency to be unhappy...grouchy occasionally...and aloof at times. My Gem is only unhappy when I am giving him **** about the internet. I don't think I've ever known him to be in a bad mood.

trillian....yep, that is what I was looking for. It sounds so simple. Change my perspective.

Wow..I know all to well about not being able to change someone. I thought that if I loved my ex, was nice to him and gave him the world he would quit being so hateful and negative. In the end, I started to just agree with him so he would be quiet. It was making me ill.

So..instead of trying to accept the behavior,
(when or if it occurs again)..I should change the way I look at it? I'll have to give it a shot. I really love this man.

IP: Logged

firestar
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 07:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow...this could have alot to do with my mixed feelings about the situation. In fact, I told a friend of mine that for some strange reason I seemed to feel some sort of excitement when this situation occurs.

My Mercury looks well aspected to me.
Is it?

Mercury Scorpio 01°41'21 10 retrograde
Mercury Square Jupiter 3°12
Mercury Sextile Uranus 2°07

"If Mercury is well aspected in the chart, she finds a partner who is intelligent, funny, and quick-witted. The Gemini quality is airy, sometimes skittish, but always lots of fun. The Geminian gets close to a situation, then pulls away. Sagittarius rising can be seduced by this type of mentality, as she reacts to a challenge. She may never be able to pin this type of individual down dompletely, and is therefore constantly on her toes. Since one with Sagittarius rising doesn't want anything that is too easy, as long as the relationship is full of fun and stimualtion, she is filling his needs."

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 08:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nackie -

Yep, I'ma Fish. I generally get along well w/ Gems casually, or even as not-too-terribly-close friends if they're another goil, but my first boyfriend, an at-first-sweet-then-cheatin'-Gem, left a sour taste in my mouth as far any real Geminian influence in the chart goes - which is funny, since I've a 3rd House Aqua Moon & consistently attract guys with Air Sign Venuses. The first 2 guys that I was *cough* with were a Cancer and a Taurus w/ Gemini Venuses, a guy w/ a persistent crush on me at an old job of mine was a Cappie w/ an Aqua Venus, and my Love & Husband, Jase, is an (3rd House) Aqua Sun, Taurus Moon, Scorp Rising, Cappie Merc, Aqua Venus, Pisces Mars man (put into bold because I can say in all honesty that he's the only Man - not boy - I've ever been in a relationship with...and I'll stop now before I make ya'll gag w/ my inevitable, but truthful, vows to him ).

IP: Logged

Nackie
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Go on, Prox, go for it lol

I'm a scorp rising, also a water sign....hehhehe

C'mon, I know you wanna....

*giggle* Nackie

IP: Logged

trillian
Newflake

Posts: 0
From:
Registered: Apr 2009

posted December 03, 2003 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, prox, you don't like us Aries? Did we hurt ya somewhere along the line?

I'm crushed!


More soon on this interesting topic...

IP: Logged

FishKitten
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 01:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Firestar.

Yes, the father of my son was a Gem and he did cheat on me. Mind you, it wasn't until I was about 8 months pregnant, but after the baby came, it continued. No way was I about to put up with that. It just made me feel really bad and betrayed. He tried to get me to stay with him by saying that I would never be able to find another man who would want me when I had to spend my time supporting myself and a child. Boy was he ever wrong. Actually, once we were divorced and I no longer cared who he slept with, we became friends again. He told me once that he would have never started playing his games if he had realized that I would just move on and never look back. Too late for that, however. My second Gem never fooled around on me. Our problem was that one of his "twins" carried a lot of anger and wanted to argue and have verbal fights all the time. That didn't get to me right away, because at that time in my life I was as able to just ignore him when he started yelling insults. I could swim away into my own world. The end came when he gave up on getting an angry rise out of me and began trying his emotional abuse on my son. Goodbye came immediately when that started. None of my experiences mean that your Gem guy will behave like that. Astrology aside, people are all individuals and even though they may feel pulled to do certain things, they always have the freedom to choose not to do them.

IP: Logged

firestar
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 02:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fishkitten...*hug*

Thanks for sharing that and sorry you had to go through any of that. My ex did the same thing from day one, convinced me I would never find anyone else who would love me...and yes, he also was very wrong.

I already know what is going to happen as far as this situation goes. I've been thinking long and hard about it when all of the time I knew the answer. I will give him a chance to choose NOT to do the things that really bother me. I will allow him to make his own decisions but I expect him to stick to the compromise we have made. When and if he chooses not to, I already know that I am not as patient as I was in my previous relationship...I will not allow myself to continually feel bad or have doubts about my self worth. It took me to long to build myself back up to where I am after the divorce.

Thanks for your input....I also wanted to let you know (fishkitten) that I am taking a writing class. You'll have to watch my posts and see if you can tell the difference after time...ok?

Everyone have a great rest of the week.

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 02:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, naw, Trillian - I like ya'll just fine, but Aries guys have always been a little too flirtatious for me to really synch with.
I don't really flirt for fun, mostly because I don't really flirt. I'm a wee bit too oblivious for all of that; I'll take my equally oblivious Aqua Man

IP: Logged

proxieme
unregistered
posted December 03, 2003 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, oblivious isn't quite the right word.

With our respective and joint astro combos, we kinda tease, smoulder, and cuddle.
I like that so much more than flirting.

IP: Logged

FishKitten
unregistered
posted December 04, 2003 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Firestar...congratulations on the writing class! I'll send lots of writing vibes your way. You go girl!

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2011

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a