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Archer
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posted December 08, 2003 09:46 AM
 
i find more and more sagittarians becomming anti leos! including me. i read these posts from 'N'. and there are so many sag friends of mine who have found hidden agendas with leo. is there any current transists that is making leos such?also, almost always i see battles amng leo and scorpio. and in the end the scorpio alwya ends up diggin up one truth "leo has some hidden agendas". why is it so? and who is a more powerful individual?
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lioneye68
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posted December 08, 2003 12:30 PM
Why would you create a thread with such a title? What are you? 12 or something?IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted December 08, 2003 12:42 PM
That is just a mean way to start a thread. Not to mention you could not be further from the truth. I think in most situations what we are seeing in that you are too young to forge a relationship with another fire sign. Two fire signs need time, lessons and to be tempered with heartaches before they can have a successful relationship. N's problem stems from being young and having anger issues with her parents. Most Leos are loving, caring and they DO NOT have a hidden agenda. Of course you see battles with Leo's and Scorpio's they form a natural tense square, just like we do with Virgo's and Pisces people. But you have to have the maturity to deal WITH IT!! IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
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posted December 08, 2003 12:43 PM
I would really like to see this thread locked because it is already offensive.Randall, can you please do that? Archer if you have genuine concerns about your relationships with Leo's please start a thread with some tact. IP: Logged |
NikiSpeedy
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posted December 08, 2003 12:51 PM
I would like to see this deleted altogether. There is no excuse for this bashing of Leos.Very judgmental and immature Archer. And PRAY TELL?? -- What is your agenda?? IP: Logged |
Jazzebel
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posted December 08, 2003 01:01 PM
I dont see why someone cannot express their opinion on Sun signs freely, and if they do - the thread has to be locked down. Excuse me? I`d say - that is immature.
Leos can handle a bit of critising, couldnt they?IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted December 08, 2003 01:07 PM
You might feel differently if it were entitled "Down with Virgos", Jezzebel.I can take a little criticism, I don't mind, really, if it helps to make me a better person, but the title of this thread ?!?...C'mon, man you could have thought that one out a little more. IP: Logged |
pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 08, 2003 01:09 PM
Oh please. It is one thing to start a thread that may state "Sag and Leo...how come we fight" or "Please provide advice on why I have problem or why some Saggies have problems with Leo's" Archer doesn't even provide a history concerning the basis of her opinion. In fact, she states it has to be all the Leo's fault and none of the Archers fault. As a Sag, I like to see the other side of the story as well, not just one persons opinion. IP: Logged |
NikiSpeedy
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posted December 08, 2003 01:22 PM
There is a WAY to express yourself without this kind of bashing. And as for immature Leo's handling criticism - well what about immature Sag's learning the all-important quality of TACT?Most any sign can become puffed up with self-importance. Leo's don't own that. All this from Miss Pisces -- lol IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted December 08, 2003 01:25 PM
Hmmm, guess what I think? I think that Archer and N are the very same person. Is it a coincidence that they are both are Sun and Moon Saggies with Virgo Ascendents? Funny too is that N and Archer BOTH have Leo mom's and Aries Dad's. Hmmm, and a review of their posts show major similarities in that they tell the same stories again and again. So I think what we have here is someone that is obviously abusing this website and doing what he or she can in order to cause pain against a group of people that share a similar birth month. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted December 08, 2003 01:34 PM
o_0..You're probably right! You've been right before about know-flakes mis-representing themselves.IP: Logged |
pidaua
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posted December 08, 2003 01:40 PM
Well I first coincidence was that the writing style was the same, then I noticed they were both from India. Then I read in the 'Insight into Virgo" thread about Archer having a Virgo Ascendent, Sag moon, etc...then there was mention to the Leo mom and Aries dad. So I started to dig (You know Pluto in the first house kind of digging).Well, lo and behold, they both signed up in November 2003. Archer quotes N, like N is the premier expert on Sag-Leo relationships. N doesn't really post often, now Archer has become more frequent. Either Archer and N are twins, or they are the same person. I am leaning towards the latter. IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted December 08, 2003 01:53 PM
Hmmm. You're a sleuth, Pid! I did notice the simularities, but I wondered if maybe they were friends, and thought that one probably introduced the other to Linda-land.But it's a little suspicious that they both are trying to start an 'Anti-Leo' movement.  IP: Logged |
aries-chick
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posted December 08, 2003 09:11 PM
Im sorry...but im a bit confused, I thought N was a guy, is he a girl? Is archer a female or a male or are they both male or female...I think i missed something, i've been away for a while  PS. Archer or N whoever u are...'Anti-Leo' sounds more like a protest not a thread, u wouldn't like it if i started a thread titled anti sagi would u now?! 
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aries-chick
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posted December 08, 2003 09:23 PM
O...I found something else...Archer said his/her whatever (i'll just call him it ), name was Neerav...starts with an "N"IP: Logged |
Archer
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posted December 09, 2003 05:23 AM
the subject of the thread is just a way to convey the generaly idea. and it doesnot suprise me that most offenders are leo or aries. and what timing!? before anyone coul discuss or debate about the topic they try to diver the attention.
also i started the thread wanting to start a discussion. i don't know why it is so offensive. anyway, some repliers seem have the wrong information about me.
I'm a Male and 20 years old. and so is N a male and 19 years old. ------------------
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Archer
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posted December 09, 2003 05:27 AM
pidaua...what ru saying! N and me the same! offcourse N's posts motivated me to write about leos. but its just a collective trend among we sags. these says. and that's why at the beginning of the thread i mentioned...i find more and more sagittarians becomming anti leos! including me.and yeah...i didn't notice that N has the same sun signs parents. but N is confusing. sometime he mentions leo sometime sag. ometimes he calls himself scorpio! ------------------
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aries-chick
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posted December 09, 2003 08:00 AM
N is confusing...SPOT ON description of yourself...U're such a silly Saggi boy (way too agressive for your own good sometimes), not the best liar in da world either (but thats a virtue not a fault)IP: Logged |
Harpyr
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posted December 09, 2003 02:33 PM
well, part of the offensiveness could be unintentional, stemming from language barriers, seeing as how English obviously isn't Archer or N's first language.I can relate to some degree, about holding a grudge against Leos. (I too am a Sag, Archer..) My first boyfriend was a Leo and by the time that ended, when I was 18, I was extremely bitter towards all Leos. This particular one did have a hidden agenda, but I think alot of that may have involved his Scorpio moon. I eventually came to realize how unfair and inaccurate it is to carry a grudge against an entire sign. One thing that spurred me to that realization was when, to my surprise and temporary horror, I discovered that my rising sign was Leo! 
Well, that went a long way to teaching me that generalizations really aren't fair and the whole person needs to be taken into account when making observations about their behavior.
Also, I would ask Archer to look inward and see if he ever operates with a hidden agenda in regards to relationships in his life. Often the people who aggravate us the most are simply reflections of the characteristics that we ourselves have, but don't want to see or admit to having.
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pixelpixie
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 09, 2003 04:23 PM
Very insightful, Harpyr.
I also think, alot of us have to throw out our supposed information on signs and their general make-up. General being the operative word. Keep an open mind, and try to remain unbiased. I also have Leo rising, and heard for years we don't get along..... I don't find this, in my personal dealings at all. I understand why we wouldn't, but I choose to overcome this. Operative word in that sentance? Choose.IP: Logged |
purplezen
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posted December 09, 2003 09:15 PM
My best relationships have been with leos, and my mom is a leo. I LOVE leos!IP: Logged |
spiria
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posted December 10, 2003 12:46 AM
Well said Harpyr and pixelpixie!
yes, generalizations are a bad thing. i, myself have personally dealt with one very sneaky sag with a multitude of hidden agendas! and a few very honest ones! and truly, even the sneaky sag could be brutally honest, sag-style and ultra lovable. as for leos, most of the ones i have dealt with have been very loyal and honest. then again, i have dated quie a few sags and no leos, but i do have a ton of leo relatives, coworkers, etc.. but i decided years ago to not dislike a sign based on a bad experience or two with one...
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Everlong
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posted December 10, 2003 02:31 AM
My POV:I don't see why this thread shouldn't be here. If someone wants to express their view, let them. You may think it's immature and stupid, but there's no reason to get angry- it's just their opinion. If I saw a thread bashing Pisceans, I would just avoid it. Simple as that. I'm not saying that I agree with the intent of this thread though. But I'm not saying I don't either =). I've had horrible experiences with Leos, but I'm betting there's lots of terrific ones out there. IP: Logged |
Archer
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posted December 10, 2003 12:35 PM
hello Harpyr...
first of all, i don't hold grudge to the entire sign leo. i'm sure there is a simba out there! deserving to be crowned. like yesterdya i saw this wonderful leo kid with the simplest eyes.my experience with leos have been bad only because of my virgo ascendant. in indian astrology otherwise...even my ascendant is leo! and it has been bad with leos cause while they remain safe and secure with thier stuff they pounce on others who never thought that there were selfish beasts out there who can put on a sunny smile too. and they dramatize so well that things can't get straight forward. if they do however then i never fail to bombard them with my witty sag arrows. so offcourse i've been a tough enemy to them. it sjust that they dramatize sooooooo well that its hard to not remain disarmed. hiden agenda and me? well...only if it has to do with involving tact in some work related area where my saturn in scorpio comes into action. otherwise in normal day to day life, if its dealing with difficult people who pose themeslves as inpossible and insoulble (only leo andtaurus does that i suppose) ...my hidden agenda itself is to get things straight forward and put down unneeded bridges that leo tries to build to catch on ur trust. i think all leos when childnre are as generous as it gets. then city life or so called practicality gets over them and makes then adopt certain ways to get things done, in the name of tact. even sags do...can we be saints?? lol ------------------
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pidaua
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From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo
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posted December 10, 2003 02:12 PM
I have a Virgo Ascendent Archer. I have not felt that Leo's take advantage of that at all. I think you may be suffering from a martyr complex feeling like you are not getting a fair shake. Then again, maybe the culture in India is different and therefore cultivates a different breed of Leo that other countries since you seem to think that the city somehow makes them evil.Your posts DO bash on Leo's. I read many of them and was shocked at how you seemed to post on any thread possible and include some extremely offensive remark towards Leo's. You are entitled to your opinion, but you must also accept the consequences when you offend someone. We have all been on the other side of the coin where we may have offended someone and then we had to defend our point or apologize. It would be more enlightening if you could demonstrate how you had been victimized by the Leo's of the world. You paint a picture that a Leo is a person that lies in wait for a weaker person just to beat them up and pound down their self esteem. Why is that? Is this because you are angry at your Leo mother for being overbearing and angry at your Aries father for not understanding and helping you? Why don't we address the problem and find a solution instead of just bashing on Leo's. IP: Logged |
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