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Duality
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posted December 17, 2003 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is something interesting I've found on the About Astro forum. Thought I would share it with you all.

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Hey--I just read about this recent discovery by an astrologer on the web, and I thought that I'd pass it on to other astrologers, because it doesn't seem to be very well known phenomenon--it is simple to figure out, yet seems to yield some very interesting results--just add, and then subtract 83 years EXACTLY from your birthchart and compare it to your own birthchart--there should definitely be a few similarities, especially if you are strongly Jupiterian (Sagittarius or Pisces prominent in the chart--also, maybe Cancer, because Jupiter is the exaltation ruler.)

Now, Jupiter should be very close to it's exact postion at your birth (if it's not you added/subtracted wrong--it will be a few minutes of arc off, don't worry, that's normal), and so should the Sun (because it is the same day, though this may be a little more off than Jupiter--technically the cycle is 83.034 years)--so you can leave all of the INFO in the calculation of the chart the same (time and place), just draw up the charts for EXACTLY 83 years before and/or after your birth.

I have chosen to do 83 years before, and then 83 years after my birth, but I guess theoretically you could go back or forward as far as you want, but it will get fairly complicated--but in the more recent charts, you will find a few similarities between these 83 year seperated charts and your own--and keep in mind that these charts are seperated by an astonishing 166 years!

The Jupiter charts could possibly offer some clues to past/future karma or spirtitual activity, if anyone believes in any of that stuff. When you do the charts, take a close look at the Nodes of the Moon, because they are usually involved in a significant way in these charts (the Nodes are often thought of as karmic), possibly because of Jupiter's exaltation in Cancer. (Nodes of the MOON)

These specific years, 83 years apart, also seem to be linked historically and/or astrologically in a Jupiterian way.

To give you all a brief example of my own chart (and this is not the only example by far from my chart, just the most obvious one): I was born on a solar eclipse, it occurred at 29 degrees of Gemini about 15 hours prior to my birth, so this is certainly a major "hot spot" in my chart, and the pre-natal eclipse would be for anyone, anyway.

OK: When I click back my chart exactly 83 years, I find the Nodal Axis at 29 degrees of Gemini/Sagittarius. When I click the chart forward exactly 83 years, I find Neptune at 29 degrees of Gemini (conjunct the previous chart's South Node), both of them within a few minutes of conjuncting my pre-natal eclipse, despite being 83 years away from my birthchart. Coincidence? I think not!

There are numerous other examples, but rather than list them all here, I will turn you all loose and let you find them in your own charts, or those of family, friends, etc. I have found that family member's Jupiter charts connect to the natals (either their own or your chart) in eerie ways, even though they are well over a hundred years apart!

I'd really like to read some of you other astrologers findings here on this thread if you choose to toy around with this cycle, to see if anyone else finds such interesting connections to the natal chart.

The Mathematics of the Cycle:

By multiplying the precise 11.862-year orbital cycle of Jupiter by 7 cycles, you come up with an almost exact 83-year "Jupiter Return"--degree-wise and date-wise.

Simply multiply 11.86 years (one cycle of Jupiter around the Sun) by 7 (7 cycles of Jupiter around the Sun). The answer?: 83.034 years!

Have Fun,


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astro junkie
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posted December 17, 2003 09:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Duality:

I tried it and although almost all planets are different, I did notice what is now my South Node (Aquarius) is my North Node there.

I started looking at other stuff too, such as comparing past life memories I have now with what challenges were back then, and it does seem to make some sense. It's not like things were totally topsy-turvey, such as a lot of fire signs back then. They seem to make sense in an evolutionary way.

The best relationships I've had are with Taurus, and my Neptune and Pluto were both in Taurus back then. Soulmate? Soul union?

The guy I've been liking a lot for a while now is Taurus with Aquarius Moon (North/South Node)...

Also, I've had this real FEAR of getting addicted to drugs in this life, like I'll say, "I'd make a very good drug addict if I became one..." My chart back then shows a Saturn in Pisces...(?)

My Saturn now is in disciplined Capricorn.

Hey, thanks for passing that along. I'm really ALWAYS thinking about my past lives because I remember them so well. That is to say, unexplained memories which resonate in me. Now I can sit down with this and go to town!

Thanks!

.gloria

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