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sthenri
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posted January 22, 2004 09:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We are now out of Capricorn and into Aquarius. put on your rose coloured glasses, and get ready for Valentine's Day. Peace and Love everyone, brothers and sisters. Do your friends seem hormonal to you? Do you wonder why everyone just can't get along? Do want to roll around and make snow angels now?

Welcome to the months of Aquarius

Take Care,
Natasha
Taurus/7th

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sthenri
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posted January 22, 2004 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.esotericastrologer.org/EA%20Essays/EAEssaysTitles.htm#N

Here are some great articles, for the year, there ought to be a new one for Aquarius soon.

Natasha

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lioneye68
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posted January 22, 2004 10:31 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun AND Moon unite in Aquarius right now! Utopia! It's a beautiful concept.

How do ya'll suppose this will effect us Aqua moons? Do you think we may actually get some emotional clarity while the sun and moon team up to conjunct our natal moons?

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proxieme
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posted January 22, 2004 01:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AND HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO JASON!!!

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astro junkie
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posted January 22, 2004 02:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just hope it means my future husband finally pulls back the curtains and presents himself to me!!!!!

.gloria

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ariestiger
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posted January 22, 2004 03:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aquarians are strong as oxen, both emotionally and physically. They're tough as anyone comes - mine taught me an awful lot about developing a thick skin - and have amazing patience and fireproof natures. Rather than Water-Bearers, they ought to be called Cup-bearers. I have never known one to refuse a drink (or several)or food. Most of the ones I know have a wine-cellar, and order the best possible. They're the gourmets of the zodiac.
Aquarian men are totally, certifiably mad. They are, however, very good at conversing/ listening to problems for hours. They can be quite friendly, cheerful, and loving, and hate any member of their family to be insulted. One fault of theirs is that they have amazing potential (mine has a photographic memory) but a distinct lack of ambition - at least the ones I know - and won't give that extra little bit of input that would make all the difference to a final result. You also can absolutely NOT get them to do anything they don't want to do. Not that I would want to discipline my man, but Aquarians, per se, are just undisciplinable!

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Nagali
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posted January 22, 2004 03:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gigglez ! :CRACY:

Yeee funny! Had 4 x-flames contacting me today...Cracy! Hormones jumping...good memories in the air of aquarius...

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Blazini
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posted January 24, 2004 10:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesTiger, you definently know us Aquarian males! I couldn't put it better myself.

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astro junkie
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posted January 24, 2004 11:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
...I LOVE Aquarians, and I have had this lifelong (since childhood) karma with them. But lately, there's something which is kind of bugging me...

And maybe more specifically to an Aq Moon - where they feel like if they martyr themselves for a cause or for a person, that it justifies all the other chaos it may create, even if it's among those who really care about them who see a better way for them to invest their precious energy to create change or progress...

Does anyone know what I mean?

It's like misplaced loyalty or something. A reflex action of sorts...

.gloria

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sthenri
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posted January 25, 2004 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesTiger, I thought I was the only one who really got Aquas. You are so right, they do love their food and drink. One I know owns a restaurant which is perfect for him. And they all love a drink once in a while.

They are revelation, fun and outgoing and really strong. Just make sure the Osso Bucco is top notch or else they will criticize, better to take one to the best restaurant in town and don't skimp.

Yep, I love Aquas,

Natasha
Taurus
Cancer Moon/8th house

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Nagali
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posted January 25, 2004 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AstroJunkie...Ye what kind of planets run our strange behaviour lately? I had this question when I signed in here now…

The thing about us acting as martyrs and causing a chaos within our belief of solving a “problem”. I have always seen the Aqu energy similar to Shiva’s…I can see myself go to the essence of the cause, make chaos in order to solve the case. To cause solid and lasting improvements. It is true we don’t want to change anyone, but it is difficult to view behaviour amongst our loved ones which don’t gain a loving friendship. Since you aimed so directly into my search for answers I will tell a little bit of my present use of my energy causing only headache for myself…and maybe I should just not care.

But I care for my Saggie girl friend…which uses her sharp tongue towards friends and very often end up hurting them. End up making a drama within the next persons mind and have totally overseen the effect of her sharp tongue herself. She’s a loving Saggie but see her hurting other friends and when the thoughtless arrows hit me again and again, several unexpected times a day…it is draining me and I ask myself…should I be a loving person (martyr?) and tell my friend about the effect of her thoughtless speech. Which when it hits the other person cause a whole lot of thoughts about themselves and her to appear. Does she not care? Does she inherit a lack of empathy? The oral actions are less compassionate and often more egocentric towards her next. Can I accept to be threatened with a spiteful and thoughtless tongue from a dear friend? Can I cope with it in the long run? Can I close my ears, pull my shoulders and think that’s just her way, after being hit by a thoughtless sentence from a close friend. Others can they are not that close, and don’t need to respect her as I need…She wants to travel the world with me, but I don’t know if I can share the same lodge room for many reasons.

I saw my dear friend in a light I did not respect from a year ago. We have had conversations and she thanked me for showing her a sign of love by giving her my view. She asked me to ring the bell every time she stepped over. I said that I where not God to judge and that I also already tried ringing the bell…when I did she hit me back and where ready for oral battle. So what do I do then? I have an ego too and I get hurt. I do not like to fight. I accept changes but I don’t like to change another person. I ask myself, maybe our walk is at the end and it is time for me to move my own way…think this is very Aqu nature…cause we accept that relations end and new appear…as life is.

After a year with this emotional battle coming up every now and then I feel like (instead of acting as a martyr as we often are put) giving in and accepting the changes…and let us go different paths. I can not view my friends uncompassionate actions and if I attempt to make her see the result of her actions…I will end up having a battle which I am totally unable to cause it is not my way of solving problems. Hypothetically; if I say or agree with her own personal view of herself as a more egocentric behaving person or what ever I can be sure she will hit this arrow back at me at the first moment she can. Then I am placed into e battle between egos…which I by no means attempt to be in. I have to use my mind differently.

Shortly I am drawn two ways looking for the best way of rescue this friendship;

1. I am about to distance myself from a dear one caused by a lack of empathy form both sides I guess. After 8 years I too do not understand her universe. And she sure doesn’t understand me and my actions.
2. Bringing it up and have a solid friendly talk about it. But then again end up being hit by stronger arrows and more causes to solve? I we already done this many times. Any suggestions on how to make this option a solving one? Cause I love her and want to stay close.

Thanks for listening, Li

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astro junkie
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posted January 25, 2004 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Li -

I value and appreciate honesty from my friends, and from Aquarians as well. But I would not try to catch you in a time of weakness and make you feel worse for it.

with love & support,

.gloria

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Nagali
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posted January 26, 2004 10:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am sorry but I did not quite catch you there AstroJunkie
And I am sorry if a fellow Aquarius waited until a moment of weakness before bringing truth or opinion forth.
and dear, I appreciate this subject coming up as I am trying to figure out why people view me in a way I feel misunderstood.

I just want to understand why we are viewed on as if it is a martyrious action? I usually think a lot through such an issue before deciding what to do. And if it has to do with people I often feel I can "hear" their thoughts towards me, “hear” that they are seeing me as a martyr or making up misunderstood thoughts about my action. Even if I have done all out of love, compassion and empathy. And it is furious being misunderstood and misjudged. Maybe our Actions are meant to be good but end up being misunderstood and therefore not as positive as we attended.

Recently a girlfriend (Gemini) of ours which goes to school abroad have stayed in my house for about a month. I enjoy her company and she is not a messy girl. But after another girl pointed out that she never gives you a hand with cleaning etc. and did not do that in her house nor in another girlfriends, I started to realize that she did not help out, even when I carefully asked for it. I could forget about it because she is leaving soon, but I also knew that none of the other girls which also liked to talk about this issue would have told her. As a friend I feel obligated to tell if no one else does. But I really don’t like it. Pointing out other peoples mistakes. Its awful. I found the right moment, when she weren’t heartbroken or tired…and so I did, carefully tell her that when she lived at someone’s house she should take part…she was ever thankful so many times and told me what I already had figured out…her mom did everything for her and she never had to lift a finger. So telling this girl was no problem. It is not that I like telling wrong and right, but when no one else does, how can this person be aware of the habitual actions they bring forth.

So, I use energy to figure out the best way of solving a case then I tell because I feel for this person, but does it make me a martyr? I appreciate when someone tell me what I should think twice of, for me is a sign of love if it is done with the right purpose.

Sorry for all this blabla

Kisses, Li

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sthenri
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posted January 26, 2004 11:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nagali, Aquas with Venus in Pisces or Venus in Aqua do physical tasks for others, because they like to. They doesn't mean you are a martyr, you just have a full plate, lots to do and take on more. The best remedy for this is to take a page from your Sag friend's book-Talk back more, say what's on your mind the minute it pops into your head, don't hold back and share of yourself more. Share your thoughts and feelings right away.

I have found that Aquas can hide their thoughts and feelings until they are at the breaking point, one Venus in Aqua/Aqua I know is always keeping his mouth shut but you can tell he's mad by the way he moves around. I am very sensitive so I just turn up the volume and get more demanding to get something out of him. Instead he just retreats. It's scary when I don't want to lose my friend, he probably feels the same way.

Physically i try to do more for him but he always refuses any help. Aquas are strong but asking for help means sharing yourself. It makes me feel bad that he never needs anything.

Maybe there are lazy people in the world because we let them be that way? I think there are some lazy traits in others that I see but I try not to give in to it because then I feel overwhelmed too.

As a Taurus I have almost the same challenge you do, how to gracefully confront my friends and ak for more physical help when it seems so petty. After all, I am strong right?

I have learned to say something, as soon as I feel there is an imbalance of power and authority. Even if it's in my mind, I trust my instincts.

Natasha
Taurus
Cancer Moon/8th house

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sthenri
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posted January 26, 2004 12:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nagali, I highly recommend getting a reading on your own before doing a couple reading, because how you think will affect the relationship. Astro.com has a great section with free readings and charts. You have a complex chart that will take many years to understand, with Venus and Mercury conjunct in Capricorn, right on your ascendant in Capricorn. Relationships are even more important to you.

Your sun in Aqua is also on the first house. Both your planets in Capricorn are opposite your Saturn in Cancer which will give you a tendency to worry, especially about your home and family. You may want to make a home and family.

Your home life is difficult, Leo moon, and you will need to sort out your own emotions for a while regarding that. Living with other people may be difficult, I know how that is too. Do you prefer to live on your own? Astro.com is a good resource.

Here is your personal forecast for this year, looks very positive.

ranus trine Uranus: Setting sail

1 May 2004 until 1 July 2004: During this time in your late twenties, you become conscious that you have grown up. Any structures in your life that have held over from childhood and adolescence appear inappropriate now. You recognize your adulthood and want to take your place among adults and no longer be regarded as a child. You are seeking independence from the factors that limited you as a child, and you are trying to establish your own way of thinking about the world. If during your early adult years prior to this time you were part of a group that tended to think alike, you may no longer want to think that way. That was fine when you were a young adult, relatively insecure in your independence and needing assurance from others. Now you want your own way of thinking.

At this time you are likely to make rather significant changes in your life in order to achieve more perfect self-expression. You may be inclined to throw over an existing personal relationship in order to liberate yourself from the restrictions it imposed and to look for new relationships that will better fit your needs.

Pluto trine Moon: News from the psyche

16 June 2004 until 1 July 2004: This is a period of profound emotional experiences, which should be extremely positive and creative for your overall growth and evolution. You are concerned with making your life more profound and emotionally rewarding. No longer satisfied with living at the surface, you want to feel in your heart everything that until now you have understood only with your mind. At the same time your mental understanding will become more profound because it will be based on intuition as well as on logic. This deepening experience of life will affect your relationships as well. In fact it may very well bring about an important new relationship, which may or may not be sexual. In any case you can be sure it will be emotionally profound and a positive learning experience in which you will discover a great deal about your inner psyche.

Even your existing relationships will now have a great deal more emotional content than they have had and will become the source of much self-discovery. Again you need have little fear for the stability of these relationships.

The most important discovery you will make about yourself during this time concerns the workings of your subconscious patterns, the unconscious habits and patterns that you carry from your past. This is an excellent time for psychotherapy or other consciousness- expanding therapies. It is not that you need them necessarily, but they would be extremely effective at this time.

In your personal and home life you will have a chance to make positive changes. You can make repairs, construct new buildings and generally expand your activities. Your home life should be deeper and more emotionally rewarding now than at other times. This is often a good time for buying real estate, especially if you plan to live on it.

Natasha
Taurus

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astro junkie
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posted January 26, 2004 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Nagali -

Sorry for the confusion...

I SAID:
"I value and appreciate honesty from my friends, and from Aquarians as well. But I would not try to catch you in a time of weakness and make you feel worse for it."

What I meant was that is seems on the one hand your friend appreciates your honesty, but on the other, resents it. Her resentment festers until she senses you are at a weak point, and then she lays her caca on you then...

I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong. But I've been thinking about this because Aquarius Sun or Moons tend to do this. They do something to help someone with perfectly good intentions, but somehow, the ACTION does not CONNECT to that person's true need. It may serve as a band-aid, but does not provide more progress as desired by the Aqua's.

Just like if your friend needed a ride, and you offered to take them on your bicycle. You are doing all the peddling, they sit in the back. But it is a STATIONARY bicycle!!! (the kind people exercise on...) So you cannot understand why even though your intentions are good, and you are putting SO much effort into it, sweating like a dog and completely out of breath - -you haven't gotten anywhere...

That's my point.

And I'm not sure if the reason from MY perspective, that I view some of Aqua's actions as being "martyr-like" is because I see it as misplaced loyalty, or if the Aqua has become so myopic that they are not AWARE of the effect (or lack thereof) their good-intentioned actions are having on the other.

Does this make more sense?

Like:
"You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink."

OR:
"Give a man a fish to eat and he'll be satisfied for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he'll sustain himself for a lifetime."

.gloria

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Nagali
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posted January 26, 2004 08:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ohh angels you are hehe lots of truth and wise words

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Nagali
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posted January 28, 2004 06:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there! I clip and paste a little and put my view down if it can help someone else…

Nagali, Aquas with Venus in Pisces or Venus in Aqua do physical tasks for others, because they like to. They doesn't mean you are a martyr, you just have a full plate, lots to do and take on more. The best remedy for this is to take a page from your Sag friend's book-Talk back more, say what's on your mind the minute it pops into your head, don't hold back and share of yourself more. Share your thoughts and feelings right away.

: Yes, I know I should, it is not wise too keep my thoughts but it has something to do with my liberal and non judging nature. And I have tried to talk back to my friend but then her defence is to hit something back at me and we end up in a bad circle. But it is true I am at the braking point and need to be extra careful with what I say now Then again I am rather slow when it comes to that a sentence hurt me…it may take some minutes and maybe up to 30min before I realise that this action towards me was unfair…then I feel too picky and stupid to mention it…sorry this isn’t easy…
It is so true what you say about asking for help and being strong. This has been a major issue for some guys I have dated. They don’t feel needed cause I can do all myself and never asks for help. I we learned to ask for help now and it works, I can see how a man grow after bringing the TV form one room to another. And it is interesting that you combine this with sharing of yourself, I we never seen it that way. Maybe we don’t realise that we don’t share to much cause we are happy ourselves with just a little affection…we feed enough on small dozes? And then subconsciously assume other people do that too…

Sthenri; The readings you printed are almost what I have forseen and wished for…I am probably quitting my business to go to Nepal and study Buddhist philosophy…It will be good to get this over active mind to more lucid and calm state… eventually! Funny! I we been wanting to go to psychotherapy or other consciousness- expanding therapies…last month I almost envied a “sick” girlfriend…even though I don’t need it myself, I see it as a good way to understand more…

AstroJunkie: …..because Aquarius Sun or Moons tend to do this. They do something to help someone with perfectly good intentions, but somehow, the ACTION does not CONNECT to that person's true need. It may serve as a band-aid, but does not provide more progress as desired by the Aqua's.
: True, so I we figured out that I keep my self open, she senses me anyway and take this lesson; you cant lecture anyone who don’t want/not ready to learn…so when she ask me what is wrong I carefully bring it forth…she ask, I tell…better no? And yes, it made sense

Anyway you both learned me or made me recognise issues about myself, thanks alotz angels!

May peace breathe, Li

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