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posted January 24, 2004 01:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jazze -

You left me literally in tears after I read the following message you wrote me. Please tell me what's going on? What are you seeing? How? Need to know it all. Thank you!:::::

Gloria,
you got me curiouse and I looked at your charts. You most likely will have a fateful meeting with a man in the end of this year. Could be around New Years Eve or it could be in the beginig of 2005. This could be your future husband, the one you are going to nest with. I dont know for sure if this will be the man but by 2006 you will be head over heels in love. It won`t be easy thou. This love period (2006) coincidence with much struggles, you might be supposed to give up something valuable to you for this love to happen. There will be some legal battles too. It will be a give and take time but you will experience the magick of love in all its variations, for the years to come..Wish you luck!

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Jazzebel
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posted January 24, 2004 10:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Gloria,
sorry to have brought you to tears but you really shouldn`t have. I can understand your frustration though after looking at your progressed/directed chart. Directed Venus is right now in exact square to your natal Saturn. You are going to feel better after it goes away.

As for the fateful meeting at the end of this year/beginning of the next, I saw that in your Solar Arc directed chart. At that time directed North Node will come to an exact conjunction to your natal Sun. Directed Nodes to natal planets always coincidence with a time of fatefull meetings with important people in one`s life. Like for example, when Proxieme (from this Forum here) met for the first time her future husband in June last year, her directed Nodes were sitting exactly on her natal Sun. Sun= men in a female chart and more over Sun rules your 4th house (family).
Anyhow, at the time when your directed Nodes will be conjuncting your natal Sun, your directed Moon will start a conjunction to your natal Venus. Its the loveliest aspect ever to have in progression/direction. There is no way one wouldnt experience love under this aspect. The conjunction will be felt as early as the beginning of 2005 (just when the North Node/Sun aspect occures) and will become exact in the summer of 2006. What is curious thou is the fact that during that time you not only have directed Moon on natal Venus but at the same time your directed Venus will be in exact (0.00) square to natal Moon - a double yummy! At this very same time - believe it or not, your progressed Moon will be in exact opposition to your natal Venus. So you basicaly have 3 aspects involving Moon and Venus and all of them going on at absolutely the same time - June/July 2006. The square and the opposion aspect spells for frictions so not everything will be smooth but both Moon and Venus are soft planets. Moon/Venus progressed/directed aspect also spells pregnancy but I am not sure how you feel about this.

What bothers me though, and what will be bothering you too, is the upcoming directed aspects between your Pluto and Saturn. To have just one of those aspects in one`s predictive chart is very tough (Michael Jackson is having right now Pluto opposing Saturn) but you are going to have them both at the same time - directed Pluto in square to natal Saturn and directed Saturn in square to natal Pluto). This is going to be hard!. Surprise or not but those two heavy aspects will be running simultaneously with the three Moon/Venus aspects you are going to have in the summer of 2006. Pluto rules your 7th house of marriage, Saturn rules your 9th house (legal stuff, long distance affairs/divorces, and all this crap). So be aware, this will be such a halmark time for you.
The good news is that Saturn/Pluto double aspect will fade away but your Venus will continue its journey for the next years - after the conjunction to your natal Moon (lovely love), then it will be conjuncting by progression your natal Neptune (very dreamy and romantic state of affair), and then it will conjunct your natal Mars (hot and passionate). Sounds good, I hope

hey, you had some heavy Venus/Mars/Uranus aspects 2 years ago, what happend in 2001?
Did you break up with someone back then? Was it hard for you?

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astro junkie
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posted January 25, 2004 12:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*deep breath*

WOW girl...

I hope you can pass on how you are figuring all this out, I understand what you are saying, but do not yet know how to figure it out myself. I mean, I'm just now starting to take interest in Transits.

Anyways -
I thank you so much for this. I'm so overwhelmed with the amazing depth of the information and insight. WOW...

My tears were partly of happiness and partly of exhaustion. There are many angels watching over me.

There have been many times when I knew the stars were prime for me to go out and connect with someone new, but regardless, despite my incredible need, I'll sit home alone, content in a way. Hope this is not my attitude during the opportunity you speak of.

As for the year 2001, I was on my SIXTH year of complete celibacy. Not so much as a kiss. If you've ever read my posts regarding my practicing celibacy, you'll understand more. But basically, I was overworking myself and had cut myself off from people as I ran my own business.

When September 11th hit, I suffered in a major way from post-traumatic syndrome, and a couple of months after that, began trying med's for the first time in my life. Nothing super heavy like Prozac. Started with a low dose of Paxil, then was switched around as time went on, and I'm with a low dose of Effexor XR now.

So other than the uncontrollable aspects of the PTS, I had overworked myself to the bone and isolated myself from people, which only added to the PTS... I had NO ONE to hold me or comfort me when Sept 11th hit.

Some people's faith in God increased, but mine could not because I was already spiritually grounded.

Some people began to fly their american flag and become patriotic. My flag had already been flying in front of my home, and a day has never gone by without my being grateful to the men and women who sacrificed their lives for me to live in this free country.

BUT...

The thing that DID hit me like a ton of bricks was the realization that I was totally and completely ALONE.

Hope to hear more and learn more when you get a chance.

.gloria

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trillian
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posted January 25, 2004 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jazzebelle, You have a gift.
Would I be imposing to ask if you would peek at my chart too? Only if you have the time...and I don't know how I can return the favor, but if at any time I can...

You can post here, or email me at trillian@linda-goodman.com.
If that addy doesn't work, just let me know

And if you find this an imposition, no worries.

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Jazzebel
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posted January 25, 2004 03:33 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Trilian, I tried to e-mail you but it bounced back

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trillian
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posted January 25, 2004 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Jazzebelle, would you mind trying chellemabelle9@yahoo.com?

Don't forget the 9!

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pixelpixie
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posted January 26, 2004 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I so don't want to jump on the bandwagon, but I also have to control my inpulses a little better....
I would love a peek for me too, depending of couse, if you have the time, and all that... I could barter for something too? I'm patient, no worries, I can wait in line behind the others!!! (we'll chat about boys and makeup while we wait!)
So, my info, if you are so inclined, -
October 28, 1976, 12:20 am Hamilton Ontario, Canada

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astro junkie
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posted January 26, 2004 11:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
WAIT!!

I honestly need so much right now for Jazzebel to educate me a little bit more on the basics of her knowledge...

Please guys... I'd appreciate it. I'm going through a hell of a time and I'm sure there will be time to pile on requests for readings later...

Thank you so much for understanding. You know I'm always here for you all as well. But right now Jazzebel has touched upon something centrally key to my life at this moment...

It's very difficult for me to ask for help, and I wouldn't be going this far if it wasn't 100% critical.

Thanks again...

.gloria

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pixelpixie
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posted January 26, 2004 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gloria, I certainly didn't mean to imply that I wanted her expertise at the expense of your needs.
I wouldn't want that, and neither,I think, would Jazzebel.
I simply placed my name upon a wish list and hope the faeries hear my wish.
Nothing taken, nothing implied. We all have issues, and all seek knowledge. I respect your yearning for knowledge, so please respect my request for the same.
I respectfully take the back seat, as I said in my earlier post anyway.
Pile on? There were two, Trillian, who Jazze already responded to, and myself!

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lioneye68
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posted January 26, 2004 06:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why don't you guys (gals) just do a search with the words "solar return" or "solar arc chart significant aspects". (or something to that effect)

That way, you will LEARN it for yourselves. Jazzebel has a tendancy to dissappear from here suddenly, especially when people all start asking for stuff. We ALL want to have someone take an indepth look at our astrology for free, but a person just can't do it for everybody. There's not enough hours in the day for all the requests that come pouring in once you start that.
And we ALL feel that our lives are extremely critical, for our own individual reasons.

Here's a good link for starters:

http://www.balsamicmoon.com/magical-gifts/astrology-charts/astrology-chart-solar-r eturn.html

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trillian
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posted January 26, 2004 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Of course you're right lioneye. We should all try to learn for ourselves. It's just sometimes so valuable to get another's perspective about our own charts. Kind of like the psychic who can't see her own future.

I respectfully withdraw my request.

Gloria, knowledge is for sharing, most of us here try to share. We all have rough spots and troubles, same as you, even if some of us aren't as open about them as you are. No one is more, or less, worthy. Jazz can, and will, make her own decisions about those with whom she will share her gifts.

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Jazzebel
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posted January 26, 2004 06:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey guys..I just came home from work and running out to an office party in 15 min. I really dont have time in my busy schedule to look at other`s people charts despite my desire to help those who neeed it. Really! It takes long time until I look at and compare all the charts (transits, progressions, solar arc directions).
Gloria, I dont know how to help you furthermore. I hope the things will work out better for you.
Got to run now.....chat later

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pixelpixie
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posted January 27, 2004 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do, I spend a long time pouring over charts and trying to understand all the nuances, but I have a hard time with perspective, as Trillian said. I can and do absolutely, research on my own, but it is so helpful to have another's take.. kind of like sharing some tea/coffee/bailey's/ ice cream with a friend, and pouring out your thoughts and dreams. You may have heard and said it all before to yourself, but until you have another's take, it doesn't *zing* hit you with as much gusto. No worries, no hurries.
The Aries moon has me excited about things. So much energy, I hope school for my son is cancelled tomorrow, so I can calm myself right now, without worries of tomorrow's morning rush!~

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lioneye68
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posted January 27, 2004 12:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hear ya on the perspective thing, fo sho. It's seems to feel more objective, and therefore more trustworthy when it comes from someone else. BUT it sinks in deeper, and more thoroughly when you come to realizations on your own. (at least this is how it works for me) And it's less emotionally charged as well. It just seems like "the way it is", as Walter Cronkite would say. I use to want anyone who seemed to have more knowledge than me to bestow it upon me, oh, I probably begged for it! But then I started to see how someone else and someone else and someone else would come in here and do the same thing, and I started to think, "MAN, there are so many people out there who are aching for answers! I think I have to figure it out for myself, then maybe I can actually offer some assistance to these people as well, instead of being one of the ones asking."


(but I still like to here other people's perspectives, whenever they're willing to toss it at me)

Gloria, (or any of you) you can get a solar return chart done at Astro.com, then come here and we can discuss how various transits could play out.

Then we have to figuer out the time-frame part of it. We'll ALL learn that way.

Pixie, *I'd* like some coffee and Bailey's if you got!

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Jazzebel
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posted January 27, 2004 12:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pixel, I will help you with interpeting your chart when I have some more time, maybe this weekend...
ain`t I a good girl

by the way, I dont use Solar Return charts, I use SOLAR ARC DIRECTION (far different fthen Solar returns)

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posted January 27, 2004 02:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually Jazze -

I think you just clued me in on what I was curious to know...

You emphasized SOLAR ARC DIRECTION and a "progressed/directed" chart. With these keywords, I can definately work on more on my own, and figure out where you were coming from. Thanks for the jumpstart...

And especially, thanks for taking the time to provide such long and careful responses to me. Greatly appreciated...

.gloria

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LAPIERRE
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posted January 27, 2004 05:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok now you have me intridged! Can you do my mine also. Andrew.lapierre@publicis.co.uk.

18 october 1972
2am greenwich, london, UK

Thank you so much

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lioneye68
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posted January 27, 2004 11:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
See what I mean? We ALL would love it.

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Jazzebel
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posted January 27, 2004 12:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know what you mean, Lioneye...I better do the dissappearing act again

um..or i`d better do somehting about it

Gloria, I am glad you are interestd to learn more and on your own

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astro junkie
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posted January 27, 2004 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Jazze -
No problem... as I'm sure you noticed, I said in an earlier post here:

"...I hope you can pass on how you are figuring all this out, I understand what you are saying, but do not yet know how to figure it out myself. I mean, I'm just now starting to take interest in Transits..."

And you still did not really give me any resources, like names of books or Web links, but I managed to pick up a few keywords as you were on your way out the door.

I guess you'll never really know what impact your words had on me. Thanks again.

.gloria

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Jazzebel
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posted January 27, 2004 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realy have no idea, Gloria (what impact my words had on you). Keep in mind thou that astrology is not an exact science and nothing seen and said in predictive astrology could match the future 100%. (if only it was possible).
I will help you how to figure the transits and progressions just that these few days I am really overwhelmed at work, it will be very helpful if you start readig celset teal`s lesson I posted before. I coudnt have explained it better myself!

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