posted February 18, 2004 01:35 PM              

An earlier thread here was talking about how the Asc was only effective for a couple or so decades, and then less powerful as time went on. Some people here agreed.

As for me, I have Asc in Taurus 29.48 degrees, and many of you have commented that I comes across more as a Gemini Asc.

Linda Goodman says no matter what planets we have in our chart, we remain true to our Sun sign, which acts like a funnel through which all the energies are expressed.

Here's a thread to encourage more debate and to share personal experiences on all this.

For example: Since my Asc is at 29.48 degrees, would I then be considered to be a Cusp Taurus/Gemini? (Sun in Libra 9.37 degrees)

Thanks,

.gloria

posted February 18, 2004 01:52 PM            

By progression, I am now a Sun in Aqua moon in Cancer with a Virgo rising.

posted February 18, 2004 03:06 PM              

Do you work with your brain and hands? Do you gossip or notice what is happening with your neighbours? Do you like to travel? Are you more of visitor or a host?

posted February 18, 2004 04:15 PM            

What I think of progressions is that concept is too far out there and by that I mean, by the time we learn who we are we have become something else. I was born a Sag with an Aries moon, but today I have progressed into an Aquarius with a Cancer moon? My Venus went from fun-loving Sag (which I do whole heartedly agree suits me) to a Venus in Capricorn, which I am not.

So then it doesn't matter that I am a Sag, because I am no longer that,but something else? It is just too much because it seems that a science should have some constants and if we are to believe a Sag sun is a Sag sun, then how can I believe I am now an Aquarius? Was Linda wrong? Are the other astrologers wrong? Or should we look at it in such a way that I am a Sag sun that is moving into an Aqua decanate? Basically, my Sag Sun is receiving lessons from Aqua and become more globally minded versus ego-centric while my Aries moon is learning a bit more about emotions as it is exposed to the progressed Cancer moon.

That makes mroe sense to me that I have become yet another person. LOL...think about how confusing astrology has become. A person is a Leo Sun, but speaks like a Cancer, yet loves like a Gemini with the energy of a Capricorn...oh but wait, progressed they are really now a Virgo that feels like a Pisces, but loves like a Libra....

That is nothing compared to throwing in the Vedic astrology. LOL

posted February 19, 2004 01:33 AM              

Do you like lots of colour and arrange your home in a consistent organized fashion?
*YES*

Are you a fashionista?
*DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS*

Do you wear bright colours or do you prefer soft neutrals?
*SOFT*

Are you casual or dress up?
*DEPENDS ON OCCASSION*

Do you have champagne tastes but a beer budget?
or the other way around?
*I DON'T NEED NEW CARS OR JEWELRY - I BUY GOOD QUALITY SHOES BUT ONLY NEED A FEW PAIRS*

Do you work with your brain and hands?
*YES*

Do you gossip or notice what is happening with your neighbours?
*I NOTICE BUT I DON'T GOSSIP*

Do you like to travel?
*YES*

Are you more of visitor or a host?
*HOST*

posted February 19, 2004 12:04 PM              

And a Taurus rising likes bold, bright colours and is a fashionista, likes to look good everyday.

If you had Taurus on the first you would own quite a few shoes.

That's my opinion,
Have you done a rectification, a professional one? I had one done to determine if I was a Scorp or Sag rising, it was very tough because if Sag was the rising I would have Mars conjunct the ascendant so the personality is about the same. And I have Mars in Sag already. Finally my rectification came out to be Scorpio based on life events. But it was like, a minute's difference since my mother had such a difficult birth.

posted February 19, 2004 12:37 PM            

You are totally right about the rectification. I had mine done- since my rising sign seemed so far off from how I am or even how I act in new situations. My mother was not totally sure of my birthtime and was wore out by the time I came along (she was in hard labor for more than 12 hours).

I had a rectification done, based on life events, and my rising came out at Leo with a birth time that was about 2 1/2 hours before the time listed on my certificate.

The new chart makes a heck of a lot more sense to me. With the rectification I still have my 4th house Sun, but now Mars is in the 7th house ( I can really see that ) and my moon is in the 8th house - which made more sense than it being in the 7th house.

posted February 19, 2004 01:00 PM              

Natasha

posted February 19, 2004 01:08 PM              

Everyone seems to be in concert as far as my questionable Asc. More like Gemini...

My mom was under heavy drugs (back in 1961, no less) and almost died when I was born. So I have this theory that my Asc is very "Piscean" in the sense that I have a subconscious awakening through several Asc's, as I probably took a long time to fully "wake up".

To this day I'm the same way. I'm NOT a morning person, and it takes me 3 hours to fully wake up.

posted February 19, 2004 01:11 PM              

I would contact a professonial, there are several, but it's based on the big events in your life, so try and find them and you can work it yourself.

By progressing from your birth of that moment, there are many resources on the web on how to do it, and you may want to post a new topic asking for help with it since I have not done it.

Also try other forums too,

Good Luck, and remember to keep the top five events in your life ready,

posted February 19, 2004 01:22 PM            

Also, I do not have quite the sexual hangups as Saturn in the 8th does. Everytime I would read about it and posts from people that have dealt with Saturn in the 8th types I realized that is just didn't seem like me. I am too open sexually (in a selective way).

You strike me as a 6th house Sun more than a 7th house. The 6th is about service and helping and in your posts you are always lending support, providing information and building up people. It is very admirable.

Gloria,

Yeah, getting the rectified chart can be intense. I had to pony up some very traumatic events in my life and as a Sag there are things I try to escape from as far as sad memories. So, it was hard, but it made sense. I would totally recommend looking into it.

posted February 19, 2004 09:59 PM              

oh, such fun learning the details!!!

Yes. I know how Virgo that sounds......

posted February 20, 2004 09:16 AM              

Someone here once wrote, that we are our moon in our youth, become our sun in adulthood and turn into our moon when we age. That made sense to me because the sun is our ego, as a child you have (no right to!) an ego, everything is done to and for you. As a young adult we start to turn into our own personality, we search for and become our "true" selves. I believe we also become, as a rule, more emotional (or not) as we go into the last third of our lives.

Nackie

posted February 20, 2004 10:18 AM            

I was married to a Virgo that was definetly not shy or afraid to speak out. In fact, he is on TV giving interviews, teaches DNA / evidence forensic lessons to states attorney's, newbie scientists and police officers. He also travels around the US and is very well known in the Forensic world - not as much as Henry Lee, but give him about 5 more years and he will be lOL..

In any case, I think when it comes to Virgo's and their work / passion - Katie Bar the Door - you all have no problem getting out there and letting it be known what is on your mind and a providing everyone with the necessary tools to get the job done. To me, that is what a Virgo is- very professional, knowledable and great at the dissemination of information.

He also has a Gemini Moon and Venus / Mars in Leo. He is one of the most brilliant men I have ever known in my life -seriously - and that is what attracted me to him so intensely.

Now, in private, there is a complete difference in the Virgo. What shines in public seems to wane in private. I read something, specially about Virgo men, about their need to be seen in public, yet in private they want to mold, shape and form their women. During that Svengali process they lose the ability to really connect and love the person they are with - sex, emotions, intimacy takes a back seat. UNTIL..they realize what they are doing - then in typical Virgo fashion, they will correct the problem.

posted February 20, 2004 10:28 PM              

!!Katie Bar the Door!!

BWAAAAA!!

I love that...

I know a Virgo guy with Moon in Gemini, and he's a communist and very kinky. He's too slick for his own good, and in no uncertain terms I let him know his rhetoric didn't touch me...

I'd go as far to say that he is literally a dangerous man.

.gloria