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Apple
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posted February 24, 2004 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
george bush: cancer - july 6, 1946

john kerry: sagittarius - december 11, 1943

john edwards: gemini - june 10, 1953
(gemini just like his counterpart, mr. jacko kennedy)

im glad howard dean the scorpio is out of the race. take no offense scorpios, but come on - a scorpio running this country right now?

all 'important' issues aside, what it came down to was that george sr. is also a gemini and simply am curious to have a sag as president. correct me if im wrong, but there has not been any archer as president!


sag for 2004!

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proxieme
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posted February 24, 2004 11:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, here's a pretty interesting article detailing the Dems:
http://www.beliefnet.com/story/140/story_14028_1.html

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Apple
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posted February 24, 2004 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
very interesting, proxieme. thank you.

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raine6
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posted February 24, 2004 11:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey--you forgot someone!

dennis kucinich was born october 8, 1946

who better for president than someone who has balance and seventh house full of planets under its natural ruler?

he already has won the international gandhi peace award, and yes...he IS electable!

and he plans to install a department of peace! would that be welcome or what? i campaigned for dennis [i have NEVER been interested in "politics" but he is no politician--he is a statesman] because of who he is, not because he was an a.b.b. candidate (anyone but bush)

here in iowa i watched the media ignore his schedule, while the others were printed, and an electrifying atmosphere at his rally was buried in the bowels of the paper as "the crowd fizzled when he was late"

dean was triumphantly poised on the front pages with victories ops everywhere--and look at that now! so much for media polls--vote the person--vote kucinich! ;o)

can't help it--it's gotten into my blood!

it should be a very interesting race--and what about all of these electronic voting booths? THAT is a real issue! the more they are used, the more...er...who is it that makes those? the big boys? hm...

raine6

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Apple
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posted February 25, 2004 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a big oops! dennis kucinich is a very good choice. a libra at that too.

i do sway towards kerry (eventhough i dont agree with his platform), just because i think he has a better chance against bush. kucinich might be too 'green' and not presidential-looking enough for most voters in this country.

i would be very happy if kucinich was president.

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raine6
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posted February 25, 2004 12:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes, so would i! it would make all of my campaigning for him worthwhile!

the funny part is that people do not realize how very electable this man is...he has won over republican incumbents several times, with no ties to corporate money--only the faith and the support of the common folk--and has stood up to the "powers that be" in cleveland, where he was the youngest mayor of a major city--ever...

he took on the big utilities--and won! to this day they pay 25% less for utilities than the surrounding towns who were "forced" to sell out...keep it small; keep it local

who says he is not "presidential enough"? people just do not know about this man, because he has been deliberately done in by the media...the supposed "liberal media" in this country lol

i have this theory; long ago the republicans scanned the political horizon and saw kucinich. since the big boys have control over things like the media, they decided to clip his wings in the bud...and they have been clipping ever since

do not underestimate this man. sea biscuit was a dark horse, too. hm, what color was s.b. anyway? was he dark? she? what? i have not seen the movie...

so is there any way to discern "the pick of the stars?" come on, you are all astrologers; give us some clues here...

raine6

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted February 25, 2004 05:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realy like Kucinich, he would be my top choice. Sadly, he is misrepresented in the media He is sooooo dern cute too!!!

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Apple
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posted February 26, 2004 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yes. i agree if he got credible media coverage, more people would know he is presidential enough. i did mean he didnt have the 'right look', since a large portion of our culture is based on vanity. BUT! i was thinking about it and i retract that statement. look at dubya..gore shouldve won (no thanks to nader) so maybe vanity doesnt play such a big part.

kucinich would be ideal. (realistically, when has this country been ideal?) that would be the day!

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 26, 2004 04:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Kerry is a sadge? I liked him when I first heard him, no wonder, it's the fire signs thing.

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lllog
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posted February 26, 2004 10:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
John Kerry 12/11/43 7:10 AM Denver CO

John Edwards 6/10/53 time unknown Seneca SC

Dennis Kucinich 10/8/46 5:53 AM Cleveland OH

Al Sharpton 10/3/54 10:05PM Brooklyn NY

Check out The Mountain Astrologer Feb/Mar issue for their charts and other info.

Lanny

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gsinibaldi
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posted February 26, 2004 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about Nader?

I think he's a Pieces

Greg

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raine6
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posted February 26, 2004 09:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you think nader is a pieces, eh?

i think he breaks the democrats up into pieces--that is how bush got in...sigh

so, is there a way to tell whether a man will be president or not? like, was there something in bush's chart that said he would usurp his way into the position?

hey, kucinich came in a solid second in hawaii! if only the media would cover him, so people would know what he is all about--and that is peace!

anyway, y'all have a peaceful evening...i am going to bed early

raine6

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Blazini
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posted February 27, 2004 01:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't believe how we allow only 2 political parties to compete for the presidency. It's obvious that republicans and democrats are preventing 3rd party candidates from media exposure. Sooner or later, this must change.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted February 27, 2004 01:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It may also be the Electoral College situation too.....no matter how many popular votes a 3rd party candidate gets, its still the EC that decides the winner.......

MK

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gsinibaldi
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posted February 27, 2004 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bush didn't become president because of Nader, Gore won the election...

Greg

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Harpyr
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posted February 27, 2004 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True true.. Greg Palast uncovered the whole scandal of illegally scrubbing the voter lists in Florida of thousands of mostly black, mostly Democratic voters.. It was Katherine Harris who masterminded the 'deliverance of Florida' just as Jeb promised.

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gsinibaldi
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posted February 27, 2004 02:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Greg Pallasts book "the best democracy money can buy" is great too

G

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raine6
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posted February 27, 2004 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
whoever came up with that whole electoral process anyway? you know, there are checks and balances on things like corporations, originally...for example the fathers built in stipulations like corporations had to be renewed every 25 years...they could not engage in merger to amass such behemoths that we have nowadays...so why did such wise people do the e. college? and the caucus system...i was one of iowa's first caucus-goers, and what a crazy system...! first of all, it automatically eliminates 2nd and 3rd shift voters, and seemingly this is where the real power lies locally...if they do not make it past this, it's all over...except for dennis kucinich ;o)

and these electronic voting machines...think about it, who makes 'em?
so how can we reclaim america? how do we reach people whose eyes are squeezed shut and ears are stopped up to avoid the sand? they think all is well and refuse to hear otherwise...apparently they prefer not to think that they are also a heartbeat away from 'whatever' these usurpers decide to send our way...i see bush's spending will make almost a 3 trillion deficit...ah, it is too depressing to dwell on this...tell me something positive!

raine6

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Motherkonfessor
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posted February 28, 2004 01:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raine6-

Check out this link....
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm

All you ever wanted to know about electronic voting machines....

check out blackboxvoting.com too.

This issue has been a personal pet peeve since Bush signed the Electronic Voting Act into action. You know, right after he has the Supreme Court appoint him.

Grrrrrrr.

MK

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raine6
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posted February 28, 2004 05:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MK

thanks for the site reference...

the ides of march, my old nemesis, are upon me already, and i know i would never be able to handle such a reference in my present state of melancholia and despair

has anyone here gotten into past-life regression? when i mentioned it to my temporary counselor in michigan, she just quietly made a note of it in her records and moved on to "reality"...sigh

edgar cayce's interpretation of my chart says i need it, and sylvia browne's book, "past lives, future healing" has more than convinced me of that need in my own life...

i did have one once, but it seemed to raise more questions than answers. the woman told me i have too many uncried tears in this life and in others...well, i seem to be making up for them, but they bring no comfort or emotional release

also, i am on disability because of severe and unrelenting depression, so i have no "extra" money to "buy" healing at any price...anyone out there psychic enough to help me? i was born at 2:15 a.m. in minneapolis, minnesota, september 5, 1945

i loved linda's philosophy that money must not change hands for such healings, but yet she is the only one who said as much--others charge a fortune! hence, i am stuck and not able on my own to get past my past, so to speak

thanx

raine6

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raine6
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posted February 28, 2004 07:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
just an afterthought...i do not mean to be a downer...but how can i pretend to be anything i am not at present? this is the way i am feeling, and i know it will pass, but right now it is a slippery slope with no handholds and a friendly hand grasping my wrist would not be entirely out of character for this site now, would it?

i still feel as though i am walking on eggs here...it just seems it should not be that way, and should a person feeling down, why is he or she made to feel guilty for saying so and draining energy from others?

giving energy to others is what my life is about, but once in a while my own energies get frozen in response to the greed and indifference of others. they seem to be equal-opportunity employers, and not subject to any one of the signs...it upsets me terribly and i do have trouble dealing with it...i do apologize for coming across as seeking psychiatric help but i did not see any signs barring such from posting... sigh...trust me, i would much prefer to poste things like: "how to be happy through astrology...

raine6

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pixelpixie
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posted February 28, 2004 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raine~
I am the first to offer my hand in assistance however I can, but there is only so much I can do, other than being a kind shoulder and a wall to bounce things off of. My astrology is as limited as a moderate beginner, though I intuit okay... I have no past life regression skills to speak of, nor any controllable psychic leanings... I mean, things can happen, but I don't control them...I can't 'just focus' so to speak.
I am not sure what you are asking, but rest assured, we have all gone through some shite of varying degrees.. Some have to simply step over it, others have to swim..
If you need help swimming, or just a pair of water wings....don't feel that you are asking too much. But there is also only so much each individual can accept. Perhaps someone will come along with better words.

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astro junkie
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posted February 28, 2004 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raine6 -

I've recently begun work with a MD friend of mine who also does Hynotheraphy. DON'T work with the Psychic, Astrological or Healing medium for this!!

Do this... Contact local public colleges or universities to find instructors who are MD's. Not Ph.D doctors. I mean MD. Then try to see if any know of someone who will teach you how to perform Hypnotherapy on yourself.

Tell them you are interested in them guiding you through a couple of brief starter sessions (takes less than an hour) as an exercise, as well as giving you specific instructions on how to do it for yourself on a regular basis.

You should have no problem getting this for free.

.gloria

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