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Apple
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posted March 10, 2004 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks to gloria i am reading up on the t-cross, but it is a bit confusing to me. i cant seem to find the other t-posts. i couldve sworn i saw a bunch of them...

i have pluto opposing the sun, mercury and venus.
point focus: mars in cancer in the 9th
empty leg: in capricorn in 3rd

is the empty leg the solution to the point focus only or to all the negative aspects of the t-cross also?

my intrepretation of mars in cancer is that of unfocused energy and tendency to get into unimportant destructive thought loops. mars in 9th: is the kind of person who, as a college student, gets into arguments with professors. Mars here isn’t content to simply sit quietly admire an idea, like Venus. These folks have to get out and crusade. (bob marks) in conclusion, the general problem would be 2 opposing sides that need to come together in harmony like the #11. right? (my birth# is 29 so im not surprised at this being a major underlying problem in my life).

with the empty space in capricorn in the 3rd - i take it i need to involve myself in some kind of earthly communication to achieve harmonic balance. this makes sense because i am already trying to work on that (if i was to communicate in my most comfortable fashion, it really wouldnt make sense to 99.9% of the population - which would be in conflict with the desire to be understood). any thoughts on what area of life the solution could pertain to? i simply have no idea.

any thoughts would be appreciated..

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gloria, could you give me your interpretation of this? or interpreting your own empty leg would help as much too.
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posted March 11, 2004 12:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
With a T-Square you should have 3 planets/signs at play. I'm not sure which 3 you have because you mentioned more.

If you looked at your Wheel, it would look like a triangle on one side, the other side completely empty. The top of the triangle would be your Focal Point. Exactly directly opposite that will be the exact location of your Empty Space.

The other two points of the triangle are the two planets/signs opposing.

This configuration acts like a 3-legged table. The 4th leg is the Empty Space (which is really an exact point).

Before I go on though, are you sure you have a T-Square? I'm not sure I would be qualified to confirm that for you, unless it was really obvious, or maybe someone else would know.

The only other mention of T-Square other than me adding on to an existing thread about something or other, was one titled "The Yod"...

I'm not sure if you understood the dynamics of MY T-Square. I can explain and you can apply to yourself...

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posted March 12, 2004 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my sun, mercury and venus are pretty much in the same vicinity - mercury and venus are less than 1 degree apart..but i will look into this more..

so yeah.. thats what i was trying to get at.. explaining the dynamics of your t-square would help greatly. (argh..the mercury transit squaring both my moon and neptune has been giving
me communication breakdowns all over the place..good thing it will be over soon! argh!)

thanks g..

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posted March 12, 2004 12:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's Capricorn opposing Cancer. So as far as those 2 legs of this 3-legged table, they teeter from one side to the other. More emotional, or more cold. More wanting to smell the roses, or more putting the nose to the grind. More cuddly, or more melancholy.

The last leg is the Focal Point, the top of the pyramid. It's in Scorpio. This doesn't really interact as much with the oppositions. Instead, it brings attention to the missing leg, it's opposite point, which is in Aries.

But one way to see it is like this:: the table teeters from Cancer to Capricorn, all the while balancing on the 3rd leg, which is the Scorpio. That's why it's called the Focal Point.

Neither Cancer or Capricorn is responsible for carrying out anything to its fullest. It is the leg it's balancing on, the Scorpio, which bears the full burden.

The problem is, that leg gets tired, and in an attempt to disperse it's energy and share ITS burden, it seeks the missing 4th leg.

Because there are no planets on the whole other half of the wheel, there is only one point which matters in terms of energy balance, the position directly opposite the Focal Point.

Again, there are no planets in the Aries space which gets a chance to express itself or the energy of Aries. What happens is like a 3-legged table, because of the stress which builds up, it FALLS towards the Empty Space. Think of it as a blind spot which will receive the thrust of Scorpio's (Focal Point's) force.

So in this case, you think of what the energy of Scorpio means (it's ruled by Pluto and so forth). Think of what Scorpio does when tension builds up and it gives way.

Now, think of the energy of Aries (it's ruled by Mars). Think of how Aries would handle the thrust of Scorpio falling upon it suddenly. How would it deal with it?

In conclusion, I go through cycles where the tension builds up, and I'm forced to take action. Scorpio needs to be evolved and careful, not impulsive and reactive. When the forced action lays upon the lap of Aries, it deals with it quickly and VERY swiftly.

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posted March 12, 2004 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a few more questions..

is the empty leg just an automatic response when the 3 legged table falls toward the empty space or is it something you can actively seek to share the burden beforehand?

if the latter, how do you personally prepare for yours? also, could you explain how it works with your aries
as in relation to your 12th house (if i remember correctly)?

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posted March 12, 2004 04:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, like I said, it depends on the energy of the Empty Space.

If you are aware of the pattern you can prepare for it.

What it does is forced me to be careful of the decisions I make because eventually there will be a build-up of energy which will fall upon the Aries energy.

Sometimes it's not all bad, as long as you are aware of it. My Focal Point in Scorpio is actually a good placement because Pluto deals with transformation. So it's like a relief now.

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posted March 12, 2004 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does the house where the empty leg sits matter then? i cant seem to relate your empty space aries to your 12th house..

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posted March 12, 2004 07:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes of course, everything matters... it makes the Empty Space and the "blind spot" or "missing leg" it creates even more potent BECAUSE of the 12th House. That's why I say, if there's any sign that could handle that it would be Scorpio. It forces me to be EXTREMEMLY spiritual in everything I do in life. Hence, why I'm able to go 6 years being celibate, or able to "see God" during the big "O".

Like I've said before, sexual energy is creative energy. Some people like to vomit on a canvas and call it art. Some people like to draw daisies. Some people create symphonies in their heads. Scorpio as the Focal Point is qualified to handle all of this IF you've agreed to be honorable in your intention. Scorpio has to TRANSFORM an Empty Space into another leg.

You have to think of the planets like characters in a play. Each has their own personality and way of interacting with the other signs, and vise versa. The Houses can be thought of as the stage sets. Say the 12th House is a black stage set, like you are suspended in. No lights, no ceiling, no walls or floor. You have to take SWIFT and PRECISE action here, due to Aries being in that house, AND because it is the missing leg of the table. So you better put something there so the table doesn't topple over!

So if you want to do an exercise, imagine how each sign in that stage set would make due. The energy of Leo would probably make a big presentation out of the 4th leg. A Libra would need a soft fair landing, etc. Aries is impulsive.

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posted March 12, 2004 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Apple     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh ok some miscommunication.. i didnt realize you were relating it to the 12th house when you mentioned transformation. i get everything now. i especially like the stage analogy.

thanks a f-ing bunch

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