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scorpio22
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posted March 20, 2004 07:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sag is 12/14/82 and me scorp 11/10/81. I want to know how it is that sometimes I feel that we are so compatible and then two minutes later he'll so something to reverse that train of thought. What is the problem?

saddened scorp

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astro junkie
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posted March 20, 2004 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
are you a dude?

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Eleanore
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posted March 20, 2004 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a Sag (female) and I used to go with a Scorpio (male) so I guess we were the opposite of your current relationship, but nevertheless I can understand where you're coming from. It has to be one of the most difficult relationships I've ever been in. Sometimes it seemed that everything could not possibly be better, our thoughts and actions were in sync, and sometimes we'd even take the words out of each others mouths, and then all of a sudden we'd have no idea how to relate to each other. For example, he would be upset with me for being too blunt, talking too much sometimes, and losing my temper quickly. I would be upset with him for being too quiet, seeming moody all the time, and just being detached and unemotional even if he was upset. Then of course there were the occasional blow-out fights and ... well, Plutonium would meet Jupiter expansion ... it would get pretty ugly. It took us a very, very long time to finally get to a point where we could respect each other's thoughts and behaviours even if we didn't totally understand them, lol. It was a tough situation, although I must admit that the great times were better than I had ever dreamed. <sigh>
Another major source of conflict was that he was afraid that I thought he should change into this super-human, which he finally confided in me near the end. LOL I always thought that he was great just as he was and I would try to view his troubles with sympathy and compassion (at least, that's how I felt but not how I came across, I guess). The beauty of perspective, lol. As it turns out, my open personality and willingness to talk things out directly made him feel insecure if he happened to be the topic of discussion (conversations which, strangely enough, he did always initiate). Go figure. I suppose we also suspected each other's motives sometimes, which is never a good thing.
Try not to make the silly mistakes we made, and you may find yourselves quite contented with each other. Best of luck to you.

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astro junkie
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posted March 20, 2004 10:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eleanor? Is that YOU?

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2tailscorp
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posted March 21, 2004 05:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good grief! I'm Scorpio (female) and just left a Sag (male) only flip what you said and you've got my relationship!

How weird!

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2tailscorp
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posted March 21, 2004 05:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elenor,

You describe my and my saggie's relationship to a tee! One minute we were kindred spirits the next we were mortal enemies.

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Eleanore
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posted March 21, 2004 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro junkie,
Well, um, I'm not the one who opened the thread ...
But yes, that was me in the weird and weirder past. LOL it's been quite a while since that relationship and I'm glad to say I learned a WHOLE lot from it. I'm not saying that I was %100 the things he thought I was but I think it would be accurate to say that we had the power to bring out the best AND the worst in each other. I can say, honestly, that I've never had the same personality conflicts with anybody else. Although I haven't had that same ... unseen, mysterious knowing with anyone else either ... well, not to that extent. C'est la vie! LOL

2tailscorp,
Ok, at least now I know it wasn't just us, lol. I always wondered back then if there were others out there struggling with a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hydish kinda relationship .

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2tailscorp
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posted March 22, 2004 06:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Elenor,

It's spooky. My Sag and I could bring out the worst and the best in each other, too. I thought I found my soul-mate. We would finish each others sentences; and that "mysterious knowing"....spooky! I'm not 100% the things he thinks I am either. This is just too deja vu.

Of all the things I learned from this relationship, the biggest one for me was developing my sense of humor. He was sooo funny and so quick with hilarious one liners!
That's the only thing I miss, and that's not enough to make me want to go back!
He's been looking all over the US for me! He called my friend from IA looking for me not realizing he inadvertantly got my friend and I back together so to speak. LOL

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2tailscorp
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posted March 22, 2004 06:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's even more...I don't know is that my friend has several planets in Saggie.

I read on another thread here somewhere that your Mars shows who you will get, not who you want. If that's true then my friend should be The One since he's .
I never read this before. I always went by compatability between the suns and venuses.
So how does it seem to be that Mars is the "dictator" of who one will get?

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Eleanore
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posted March 23, 2004 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hee hee The biggest thing I learned from that relationship was patience ... lots and lots of patience.

I don't know anything about the Mars indicator thingy ... maybe a more knowledgeable Knowflake will let us in on it? Although I really, really hope that it doesn't mean my Mars' sign means he should be that sign too. I have Mars in Capricorn and ... um, let's just say I don't want to climb another one of those mountains again. Besides, I'm happier than I've ever been with my Aquarius hubby!

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scorpio22
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posted March 23, 2004 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe that it will take some more time before we finally mesh. I'm looking for that person who will alleviate my pressure when I'm feeling under the weather. He's coming along with that but I guess it's just a strong Scorp trait to be there when the chips are down. I've noticed that Sag doesn't like to have problems. One problem a day will drive him away. That should be the saying for them. In any case we're going on five years and I hope that we'll make it. Love is wonderful but it can realy destroy a person if abused and my patience has been tested a great deal. I just hope that I may one day say that he is truly my soulmate. He is a wonderful jokester. He can make me laugh even afer making me see red (an almost impossible feat if you're a Scorp; ladies you know what I'm talking about!!!) He has a lot of qualities and I see him doing great things with kids. But if he can't help out with the chores and finances then we're going to have more than just an occasional arguement. I don't want to get married unless I am 100% sure that it's him but everytime that I think he's not the one he turns around and does something competely amazing! I almost hate to love him!!!No!!! I can't say that but he is just so d#@m irritating with his flighty antics sometimes. Yet again, i'm a little to serious all the time!!! LOL It's just really hard to try and make a couple work!!!

Thank you once again all my astro friends. Your advice is invaluable.

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sthenri
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posted March 23, 2004 08:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why would he help with chores if he isn't married? Being the devil's advocate. Sorry I have Mars/in Sag/1st house and I can't help myself with a Scorpio. Maybe he'd like to be tied down and his little antics are a reflection of that.

I know two Sag married males and they are the happiest men I know. They were very crazy when single but settled down pronto. They love their wives too, one's a libra, other is a virgo. Seems they love to be tied down, called every day, follow routines, that kind of thing.

But I don't expect help from any man with chores or finances unless he's got an obligation too. Too much work for me too. Dont' expect too much from anyone, Take Care

Natasha

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2tailscorp
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posted March 24, 2004 08:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio22--you have described, in detail, the relationship i was in to a T. The feelings and confusion, being able to go from furious to laughing your a** off in a nanosec by a one-liner he blurts out. I hate having others control my emotions like that! At some point you begin to realize it's abusive to some extent the way he can manipulate your feelings and reactions.
It was a tumultuous 8 year ride for me, and one that I'm glad to finally be off of no matter how much I will always love him as a soul mate.

What was scary was I read a compatability chart on us and one aspect mentioned one killing the other. Within a week of reading this, my Sag came home from work announcing he wants to get a gun!
Time to get the H**l outta Dodge if you know what I mean.

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scorpio22
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posted March 24, 2004 10:42 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2tail scorp you are a riot!!! I'm literally rolling on the ground. I also read a compatibility chart stating the same thing; more or less that if an abuse of power arises in either person it will lead to verbal and physical abuse even mortal injuries. That kinda freaked me out. I just believe some how that we are meant to be together despite his funky "if I don't get what I want I'll throw a little childish tantrum!!!" attitude. I think destiny and the way we met have a lot to do with it. I met him while in school overseas and I wasn't even supposed to have gone (because I wanted to stay in the US to finish college). I left and met him. He liked me but I was very hesitant. I asked me over to his place and we immediately got into a heated arguement. I told him that i never wanted to see him again. We were so enthralled in conversation that we didn't realize that there was an incredibly heavy snowstorm raging. I was stuck at his place. So he took the opportuity to apologize, all in making me laugh, and the rest well, ya know!!!! It was as if destiny didn't want me to overlook this opportunity. I know that there are other men who would be less irritating but I'm afraid that even after wanting all that, I would regret leaving him because of his eye-outside personality. Maybe as one of our astro friends says, marriage may be the only way to make him truly committ 100% to this relationship and stop asking me for more than he gives. Or may be love is blinding me!!!

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2tailscorp
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posted March 24, 2004 06:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Scorpio22--Mine has Cancer rising and was very much home and momma's boy. You want to talk about temper tantrums sometime we could probably start a whole new thread with that one! LOL

But in public, in PUBLICK, he was all his true to nature, jovial, people person, s-elf!
I learned quite a few people interaction skills from him-some good, some not so good.

***ahem***

One more thing...In the early stages he asked me not to throw stuff at him which I readily agreed to, but a lot of stuff got broken.
I never said I wouldn't throw things...just not at him!

The level of frustration had reached such a pitch, what did he expect from an Irish/Italian double scorp?! He's lucky!

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2tailscorp
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posted March 24, 2004 06:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't get me wrong, he can be a fabulous guy. Why else would I have stayed with him for eight years?

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scorpio22
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posted March 25, 2004 03:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
2Tail Scorp let him know who's the boss!!! Don't you sometimes feel that you are making a mistake? Then, do you ever get the feeling that if you leave you are going to miss out on something special? It's like it's a catch 22! I love my guy but he can be so egotistical and disinterested! However, when he speaks about something that he's passionate about you better be listening or da lidle babi wil cri!!!! LOL!!! We rock!!! There is no doubt about it!!

PS. Have you ever been with another scorp male? I wonder what the sex must be like in that combo!!!!! KAPOW!!!!!!!!!! LOL

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Isis
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posted March 25, 2004 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Isis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My limited experiences w/ Sag would have me agreeing with Sthenri - the few (male) Sags I know (and my brother is one of 'em) are totally like that - the talk a good talk and walk a good walk, but they really want the structure and security that comes w/ being tied down, despite how they may act to the contrary.

Personally, I've never seriously dated a Sag - had kinda a thing for one once, but we were both married and so despite connecting, we never went anywhere beyond great friendship and mild flirtation. BUT I know what you mean w/ the finishing each other's sentences, etc. We didn't really ever disagree (fight) though (and when we did disagree, he's a lawyer, and my moon is in Libra, so it would stay pretty rational).

2tailscorp: Wow, so it's not just me (that throws things)!...I used to throw things, not AT him but just, well, cause that's what I would do when I'm angry. I've since stopped cause it only helps to escalate an already crappy situation, but I used to be the quintessential door slamming, thing-throwing kind of angry person. Didn't really call names so much as manifest my anger somewhat physically. But I realized if I don't want HIM to manifest HIS anger physically, I shouldn't do the same.

Plus it just ****** people off when they're raging angry and you're calm during an argument. We Scorps are supposed to have this bottomless well from which to draw upon, I use it to remain calm when angry (I'm still a ***** , just calmer about it)LOL

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2tailscorp
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posted March 25, 2004 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You could say mine was being drawn from the wrong well! Once I gave up drinking, he couldn't push my buttons anymore...THAT p***** him off! My laughing about it p***** him off! I'm such a b***h!
Seriously though, it wasn't any fun and I'm happier and healthier since being away from him.

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