posted May 12, 2004 10:33 AM            

Well, you are in a difficult position. On one hand you want to keep the bachelor and the most independant seeking sign in the zodiac close to home. On the other hand, why is he trying to break free when he knows it bothers you?

I don't know the specifics of the relationship, for example - your ages, moon positions etc... but as a Sag I can understand a bit of what he is going through and what he is putting you through.

My brother is a Sag Sun / Scorp moon married to a Scorp Sun / Aqua moon. They both have just kick butt aspects, but they always have one of the same problems creeping into the relationship - his need to be free and her need to possess. You cannot possess a Sag, the tighter you hold the more we squirm. Like Pepe Le Pu (the skunk) and the apple of his eye..the cat...we try to break free.

The more someone lays down the law, the more apt we are to rebel ESPECIALLY if he has a Fire moon or Uranus in the first house. He may be somewhat like me - Uranus in opposition to Moon - that makes for the 'I love you..but I can't get too close' until we are old enough to figure it out.

Early on in the relationship, my bro's wife kept giving him ultimatems - marry me or I am gone, stay home or I won't clean...etc.. (not that she really cleans anyway). The result, he married her - but he made it a point to almost NEVER be home. He did NOT cheat on her, nor would he ever - he is a loyal man - like many of us Saggies are once we make the commitment.

The other thing I noticed in relation to a Sag is that our idea of being close can be vastly different than others. To a Scorp or Cancer, spending tons of time together is something necessary - to a Sag / Gemini / Aquarius, that can be smothering.

What needs to be done is a good old fashioned talk. Make dinner, have some wine - then say "Hey baby - please tell me how you feel about relationships and getting close. What is your ideal amount of time to spend with someone?" Then if you need more time with him -meaning more dates..etc..let him know that you want to plan a couple of activities.

See that is also important. I was married to a great Virgo, but he NEVER planned anything. Every weekend was the same - it just made me nuts because I need to stay active, I need to take short trips - explore what is around me. A man that can surprise me with those trips or say "Hey honey, I am planning a weekend in Sedona so be prepared" WOW...I mean, that not only gives us "our time" but it also provides the "learning" stimulation.

My bro's wife also figured that out - so she bites the bullet when he decides to fly down to Vegas and see my mom and his friends. While he is away, she plans a trip for the two of them camping in Canada. In return, he showers her with is attention and love because she is meeting his need to see the world - so he meets her need for that closeness.

I hope this helps, please feel free to give more information -I'd be interested in seeing your charts or at least getting an idea of the moon sign and position.

posted May 12, 2004 02:25 PM              

greetings, lovely scorpio lady! hmmmmmm.....i, myself, have multiple planets in saggittarius.....i'll tell you what, i believe that some of the most beautiful qualities inherent in the scorpio woman are her deep, almost palpable tenderness, her uncompromising, intense devotion, and her effortless ability to focus TOTALLY on absolutely anything.....including her man (in fact, i think it would be appropriate to use all caps all the time to describe any action of a scorpio.....it seems to me that they almost never do anything in lower case mode! and.....i mean that with the deepest respect and admiration.) however, it may be helpful to remember that the mutable sign of saggittarius.....strong emphasis on the word mutable.....while he loves you dearly- even passionately- may feel just a little, teensy bit.....uncomfortable.....at times.....being the object of so much intense FOCUS. why? well.....certainly not because they have anything to hide.....but rather, i think, because they are so constantly and intensely focused on the HORIZON.....perhaps, subconsciously, they imagine that you, wonderful scorpio, are giving what you would like to receive. you've probably penetrated deeper into the dark, silent places of your beloved than he has, and; having decided he is worthy of your affection, you are ready to commit yourself, well.....TOTALLY to the relationship. if this is the case, your sunny sagg might be a little nervous that you expect him to try and focus totally upon you.....to want to penetrate your dark, silent places (making sure to demonstrate plenty of sensitivity and respect for what you make clear is personal and private).....and to commit totally to you. of course, to many people, this idea seems like nothing short of heaven! but you see.....saggittarius is driven to search for truth with the unswerving dedication and intensity possessed by scorpio- remember, he has been where you are.....maybe many times. this search may take him around the world.....and i don't know a saggittarius who wouldn't simply ADORE it!.....and wherever his quest takes him, he must be ready to follow without the slightest breath of hesitation. he cannot, he must not, allow himself to be 'tied down' for any reason. nor must he allow himself to become too distracted- even though he doesn't mind if the blazing quest for truth becomes a jolly, awkward romp now and then. i think many saggittarians feel inclined to focus totally upon their questing, and might feel a bit frightened at the prospect of having to focus totally upon one person. of course, if that one person seemed to be a critical link in a sagg's quest.....wow. that would be something. but i believe eventually, he might want to sort of 'pack up' that person and take her with him on his journey towards the next piece of the puzzle.....always just out of reach.....or just out of sight.....over the next rise. and as far as deep knowing goes, i really feel that sagg wants to penetrate the mysteries of life more than anything.....much more than he wants to penetrate the mysteries of just one person. i mean to say that he wants to go DIRECTLY to a place of TRUTH.....as quickly as possible.....but he has to work fast, because there's alot of ground to cover 'out there'.....as a scorpio, he explored the depths of himself.....and now he's using what he learned to try and understand the truth of everthing.....he might feel a wee bit stiffled by the invitation to plunge into the depths of another individual when he is so fervently trying to head in the other direction. his main committment is to his journey. if he loves you, well.....consider the centaur.....half man, half mythical horse.....half wild, see? if you love something wild, it's always best to 'let it go'.....it's freedom is the essence of everything you love 'about' it. come to think of it.....love is freedom.....and in linda's words, love is ALL. there is no place where love is not present.....because love is EVERYTHING.....therefore it is totally FREE. the best thing you can give a saggittarius is absolute freedom. let him go. do you know how rare...how precious it is for someone like sagg to find a love like that? a love that is as unbound as his spirit feels to him? if he can see the TRUTH of love shining through you.....or at least the great Possibility of it.....and he loves you.....no matter how far he roams, he'll always come back.....because he'll know that the very heart of the truth he longs for resides in you. what a lovely, lovely gift.

posted May 12, 2004 10:00 PM              

Call a Sag and he will commit to the full run.
Wheeling and Dealing, attracts Sags too,

posted May 14, 2004 10:49 AM              

dear pixelpixie,

many thanks for your kind post.....and salutations! whenever i have 'time', i usually post on the lexigram board. the day i wrote the above reply, i had decided to take a few moments to explore the rest of the site.....and i like this board very much, as it seems to be quite 'active' and because the main topic of conversation is always the enigmatic and beautious linda! (i wonder if she would appreciate being thought of as enigmatic?.....sort of ironic that she shared so much of her life with us- in typically straightforward aries fashion-......and yet, now that she's gone, we seem to be discovering constantly just how little we really knew about her as a 'whole person'. at least, that is the sense i've gotten from many of the threads i've read on this site......)

whew! if ya didn't already know about my many planets in sagg, you could have certainly figured it out by now......what with all the verbiage! (note also how i appear to enjoy laughing at my own jokes...even in 'cyberspace'! ha!)

anyway pixelpixie (i love your name!)......thank you again for your friendly greetings and i wish you plenty of LOVE and LIGHT always!

sincerely,

allisbright