posted April 26, 2004 01:24 PM            

What bothers me is his total disregard for other people - Actually I should direct this towards you Carlo.

It is not your content that I hate - I supported your weirdness on other forums / threads. It is how rude and vile you get when someone doesn't bow down to your logic. You call them names, treat them like crap, then expect people to fawn all over you. And some do. There are some ladies that need the acknowledgement of a man so much - they will crawl on their bellies just to lick your toes. Hey, if that is their bag - then so be it - but that is still no excuse for you calling people derogatory names and insulting them personally.

I am guilty of doing some of that to you. I finally had enough of your insults and that is why I lashed out. You can attack the theory by why beat the hell out of the person?

posted April 26, 2004 01:29 PM              

I'm just curious what the outcome will be. If several decent people leave because of 1 vile person....well, that just seems wrong to me. At first I was thinking "This is too ugly to even acknowledge anymore. Maybe my time here has reached the end", but then I thought..."Wait. There's another alternative, which is more fair, from a democratic perspective. Get rid of the ROTTEN apple, not all the other ones surrounding it"

posted April 26, 2004 01:41 PM              

I would much prefer to have a way for people to sign up and list the nicks of people here whom they do not want addressing them or speaking about them. That would be the fair thing to do. And any of you who simply tell me to never address you again, under any circumstances, or to speak of you in any manner whatsoever, thy will be done! As long as you agree and under no circumstances fail to do the same for me. I bet that nothing you can think of is more fair or democratic. If we actually knew each other, we wouldn't speak, I would never call you and I would delete any messages from you if you called me. So how about self-policing yourself here, or is the temptation too much for you to just jump in and bash me, or to think that some other grown adult cannot handle themselves in a chat room that they would need your help fending me off?

Just agree to never address me in Lindaland, or speak ill of me, and of course I will do the same for you, that goes for anyone here. I would rather know who not to address, since in six months, half of them will be gone.

So make a thread, and everyone post the names of those whom they do not want to address them or speak ill of them in any fashion. Then police yourselves and respect the list. Why would I want to speak to someone who makes it clear they don't want me to? And why would you? Think about it, it's the best way to go without having to call in the riot police.

posted April 26, 2004 02:02 PM              

Granted-it appears that he has a tendancy to stir things up around here-he speaks his mind-bottom line attitude.

Cyber-smut......he certainly isn't the only one.

Personal attacks, are ALWAYS uncalled for and in my opinion apologies should be made, but in the same respect-posting this question I feel is a personal attack. (remember-my opinion)

I'm here to learn, there are some AMAZING people here. We all have personality flaws.
As my mother use to say "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, & treat others how you want to be treated" but that is the way I was raised.

We were all raised different, have different takes on what should or should not be. Often I've been accused of being too nice, and not having a backbone......my thought on that "to each his own" can't please everyone all of the time.

The personal attacks are "just wrong" and I would hope that when the emotions settle that there would be regret for having done or said things in the heat of the moment.

posted April 26, 2004 02:09 PM              

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posted April 26, 2004 10:49 AM

piddle, put your money where your mouth is, my little $lut...get your bony ass out here and I will fill it full of what that sad Leo you think likes you obviously isn't able to fill it with (or you wouldn't be so in love with me that you can't leave me a lone). Face it, you'll always be my lil' injun (stating the obvious, but this looks like a racial slur doesn’t it?) biotch...now come on out here and give me some of that nasty squaw, (yup, I believe that’s another one) Shawnee...on your knees, if you please
Better yet, get your Leo biotchboy on here, I dare you...I would loooove to see what he has to say about that bimbo Sag he never really knew...LOL
Your Lord & Master,
Count Carlo

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posted April 26, 2004 12:20 PM

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posted April 26, 2004 12:26 PM

I like your tongue up my ass, lalalickme, keep it right there...steady, girl...that's a good lil' ho

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posted April 26, 2004 01:01 PM

Oh, right...maybe there will be a Million Envelope March in Washington someday
Speaking of which, I bet I am the only one here who listened to the rally in DC yesterday on the radio. It's funny, you women are in such danger of losing your reproductive rights, and the best you can do is come and jump on me. If you want a baby that badly, fine, yet when I knock you all up and then you change your minds...I hope you'll be able to have an abortion (and I pray that you do, since I wouldn't want you to be the mother of my children)...steady, I said, lalalickme...that's it...

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posted April 26, 2004 01:11 PM

....you are such my biotch, piddle, spending your lazy days taking about my dick Now back on the floor, next to lalalickme...that's it...good little Archer ho...

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posted April 26, 2004 02:10 PM              

And to those of you too naive to accept what lioneye says, and I know there aren't many, you simply have to read back on the thread and see who started it. Lioneye, do you think you can decide to ignore me and never speak ill of me again? I'm sure you could, if you chose to. So I ask you to chose it, and I will do the same, and that goes for pid and lala as well. When someone asks not to be addressed, it should be honored. To not do so is the first instance of rudeness and the first violation of a positive contribution to the site. You have hundreds of threads to chose and people to chat with, I ask that you all agree to avoid me, and I will do the same for you. I expect that some of you can recognize that what's fair is fair.

posted April 26, 2004 02:12 PM            

Nevertheless, I think it is only Randall who can decide that someone has gotten so offensively out of hand (or whatever) that he wants to boot them out. I agree with Illog on this, just out of principle. I'm sure if I had been insulted personally or been privy to some very offensive, obscene, hateful, racist, yada yada yada posts by him in relation to others then I might feel differently. Regardless, I still think that Randall is capable of making the proper decision in regards to this matter.

However, I totally think you guys all have the right to express your opinions about him as well, and it certainly got my attention that someone would be causing such a scandal that there would be an entire thread devoted to whether or not most people want him around.

He also has the right to express his opinions about you, or even just about himself in his defense.

I'm glad to see that this thread has not exploded into some all out hate-spree.

I may not necessarily agree with Carlo in his idea about a more democratic method, but I certainly think if you are severely offended by anything he posts, then feel to speak up and/or ignore him. If you feel that another is being treated with a great level of disrespect or in an insulting manner, also feel free to call him on it or to address the other person and give them your side of the situation. This certainly is not an easy topic for discussion.

I place my faith in Randall making the right decision if there is truly one to be made, that the ones who don't wish Carlo to be around to keep themselves in line and not revert to the same tactics that he allegedly employs, and also that Carlo will perhaps make note of that fact that his current method of posting is not being well received and perhaps will choose tone his words down a little since I would like to think it is something he could appreciate if it were being done for him.

I am sorry if my views on this are found to be rude or out of line, but I am being sincere, and also trying to remain unbiased towards both sides of this conflict.

posted April 26, 2004 02:20 PM              

Props to Eleanore.

Done and doner. I would appreciate those of you who have addressed me in malice and negatively, no matter who you think or insist started it, to never do so again under any circumstances, unless and until I address you negatively in any manner which I assure you will not happen.

posted April 26, 2004 02:23 PM            

I still hope Carlo makes an effort tone it down ... and please, let's no one else make comments like those in response.

posted April 26, 2004 02:30 PM              

And I think this forum needs a few basic guidelines regarding respect.

It's one thing to take issue with someone, and tell them so in civilized manner, but it's another thing altogether to hurl racial slurs, sexist and derogatory names, and take a fellow knowflake's personal, possibly painful experiences previously shared in trust, and use them to deal a low and hurtful blow. He goes beyond offensive. He's cruel.

posted April 26, 2004 02:31 PM              

If you want to be able to say anything to anyone, then you will certainly draw that back on yourselves, on this site or not. Unfortunately, a chat site is about instant karma.

I renew my humble request that pid, lioneye, isis, and lalalinda never speak to me again here or ill of me here, under any circumstances. I will not hold them to it, since I do not address them.

In Lindaland, I ask only for the simple respect of not being addressed by those whom I ask not to address me. I will not give, nor do I have to give, any reason for that request. I hope that those people will exercise restraint, and that I need never to have to ask anyone else to not speak to me, or of me in a negative manner. Accordingly, I agree to do the same, with or without the restraint of those whom I request the same.

posted April 26, 2004 02:34 PM            

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When someone asks not to be addressed, it should be honored. To not do so is the first instance of rudeness and the first violation of a positive contribution to the site.

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Quite the contrary, upon my requesting the same, the response I received was:

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I will address you if I like, when I like, and as anything I like or I will ignore you It will always and all ways be my own decision. Got it? I thought so

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There was more Dom/Sub BS from him in this regard, however as someone else previously mentioned, he does a good job of going back and editing his posts, which he had done in that particular thread...

posted April 26, 2004 02:51 PM            

I just found that statement ironic considering my past experience w/ Carlo, but to be fair, as he had promised, he has indeed refrained from speaking to me.