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proxieme
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posted June 18, 2004 12:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In another thread you pointed out that my husband has the former and that I have the latter in our respective natal charts.
I had noticed that, too, but had said, "Hm...that's interesting...okie dokie..." in response.
But then in one of a.j.'s threads you said that Moon opp Saturn in a woman tends to make other women distrustful and jealous of her without provocation - what effect does that have in a dude? How about Sun opp Saturn in a girl?
And if a gal and guy with those natal aspects get together, are their effects magnified, mitigated, or "dealt with"?

Thank you for your help
(The same goes for anyone out there lurking who has some insight into the matter).

*looks at charts*
Wow.
My husband's Saturn stomps all over my chart, trining my Merc, opp my Venus, sq my Moon, sextile my Jupiter, and conj my Asc.
My Saturn only trines his Merc.
On the other hand, my Jupiter makes tonnes of contacts with him:
trine his Moon
opp his Mars
sq his Jupiter
sextile his Saturn and
sextile his NN

Don't mind me; I'm just rambling now. Sometimes it helps me to write down stuff. It seems to cement it in my memory.

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astro junkie
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posted June 18, 2004 02:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Prox -

Here's some info to chew on in the mean while. Let us know if it applies to you:::

"Sun aspecting Saturn -
which is all about: Winning self-esteem.

Your relationship to your father was probably strongly affected by hard discipline and high expectations. The bond may be strong, but characterised by your efforts to win his approval. If you got good grades at school, your father will have expected even better. Naturally as you grow up you integrate a severe sense of values which is a strong motivational factor for achievement. You become your own harshest judge.

Actually you are born with the need to create a strong internal structure and set of rules for your life - you evoke behaviour in your parents so that this need is fulfilled. You expect to be disciplined. Furthermore you are unreceptive to praise, so that when people come with favourable comments on your work and deeds, you have the tendency to play down your efforts in a dismissive manner. People learn that you do not want recognition, even if you think you do. The only kind of recognition and acceptance that really works for you is your own - yet as you judge yourself hard, this rarely comes.

You are, then, your own master, so why not try giving yourself some rewards. Internal praise has a very healing effect on you, and this is a question of confronting the inner voice of guilt and enlisting its support to make you strong.

You are a rather formal person who takes life seriously. Childhood experiences - especially the relationship with your father - has undermined your self-confidence and made you reluctant to stick your neck out. You are more likely to bury your "talent" than gamble with it. You have a strong need for approval, but as a child love and approval was always conditional on your performance. You have been more appreciated for what you did, than for who you are.

Later in life you tend to judge yourself harshly, and you have a bad conscience about enjoying life and relaxing. You tend to be too dismissive when offered love and affection, and rather severe when giving it. There may be authoritarian tendencies and a lack of flexibility as regards rules. Nevertheless, you are a person who can be trusted. You have high principles, and as you do not indulge expectations of the easy life, you work hard to build up a secure structure in life for those you hold dear."

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proxieme
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posted June 18, 2004 02:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes.

There's really no need to go through a blow-by-blow on the above, because the answer to all of it is, "Yes."

Erm...except maybe the very last part.
A softie Fishy Sun can only be but so severe to those that they love.
Noticing such tendencies in myself, though, I've made it a point to express to my family approval and appreciation.

The following is so true that I laughed when I read it:
If you got good grades at school, your father will have expected even better.
Quote my Pop: "What? An "A"? What's wrong with an "A+"?"
(He wasn't kidding.)

BTW, THANK YOU, PIXELP!

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lalalinda
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posted June 18, 2004 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Proxie,
You clever girl you caught that. What I meant was in the natal, aspects to the sun and moon represent early conditioning by the parents Moon is the mother and Sun represents the father. Its interesting that your Saturn oppositions are with the opposite sex parent. The moon opposition has everything to do with repressed emotions and trust issues which started with the mother (aspects tell the rest) And the Sun opposite Saturn has to do with self doubts and self esteem issues which started with the father. Your kind of sharing the same experience/early background in that Saturns tests/lessons are with the opposite sex parent. That plus the nurturing aspect. You share that similarity.
Whats really nice in your comparison is the "double" venus conjunct moon in the comparison (yours on his and his on yours).
Also is his Saturn conjuncting both of your ascs. You have a very saturnian relationship (a very old relationship karmically) This is not your 1st time together. Does that make any sense? Let me know.
And no he doesn't have the same experience with jealousy from women, thats only if a woman has it, but there are trust issues here. If he had had the Sun opposite Saturn then there would be similar problems with men (not jealousy though) more like backstabbing

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posted June 19, 2004 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your welcome!


*WhutdidI do?*

But your welcome anyway!!!

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proxieme
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posted June 19, 2004 06:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Nothing, besides being yourself.

*scrolls back up*

Gah, sleep deprivation is a beautiful thing.

THANK YOU A.J.!

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libra78
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posted June 20, 2004 04:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so being male for example, if your sun sign is the same as your fathers sun sign and your moon sign is the same as your mothers sun sign, does that mean anything in particular?

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