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Topic: am i a typical sag?
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Archer unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:06 AM
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26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:13 AM
Archer, I think you are probably more than a "typical" Sag, with 5 planets all bunched up in Sag. Along with Jupiter, Sag.'s ruling planet. You are more than your average Sag, most likely.IP: Logged |
Nackie unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:15 AM
I didn't look at your chart, but having been around your posting-personality, I would say no. You are too pessimistic and aggressive (In a negative way) and concerned with power and control. All the saggies I know (I have tons, a brother, 2 uncles, gramma, my son, lots of friends) are very, very openly friendly, almost in a naive way, and always out to have fun. Real "sunny" people. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to say anything bad about you, but you have an intense feel about you that reminds me more of scorpio. Nackie IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:22 AM
thanks 26taurus but what Nackie said is what i exactly feel about myself. i'm pessimistic and negativel;y aggressive. i also seek control. thats what bothers me too. cause i think that i'm more scorpio like which can be true as i have the same 5 planets in scorpio as per indian astrology.i'm all very confused plus this identity crisis from childhood adds to the confusion. even my psychiatrist can't understand me throughly. IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:26 AM
You know what Nackie, you are right. Looking back on some of Archers post's, I can see this. My brother is a Sag. and yes they are usually more fun-loving.Archer's ASC in Virgo, squaring his planets in Sag. could contribute to this. Just haveing ASC in Virgo could also make this so - the pessemistic part. Archer, your birthchart and the energies within it are meant to be worked with. Don't just think youve been delt a bad hand and you are stuck with it. There are positives and negatives to everything. It is your choice on which way to go. Astrology is meant to be looked at as something to help you become a better person. Don't just sit back and say this is me, I'm stuck with this. You can change, it can be hard, but it's up to you. IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:34 AM
change? how? postive energies? how do i know them? IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:35 AM
what exactly are positive energies?IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:36 AM
Mars is also placed in detriment in Libra in the 1st house. Mars is not happily placed in Libra, and the first house has to do with identity. You said you had an identity crisis, Archer.Look into this placement. IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:40 AM
You don't know them, you choose them. If you know the difference between positive and negative, you can figure out ways to change your life for the positive.I can't tell you what exactly the "positive energies" are. But they are there. They always are, I know you can find them if you truly want to. Until you get sick and tired of the negative, no one can help you. The biggest power always lies within. IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:43 AM
Is everything you read or hear about Sagittarius negative? Scorpio? Virgo? No! Since these signs are strong in your chart, learn the positive aspects about them and start intergrating them into your life. IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 11:51 AM
So many people find it easier to say "That's just the way I am." Or let astrology put them into a mold. It will if you allow it. But that is not what it is here for.We are forever changing and growing. Strive for the best in this. Astrology is NOT set in stone. Don't use it as your excuse not to change. IP: Logged |
26taurus unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 12:02 PM
Not what you wanted to hear, Archer? When astrology is being used as a way for people to classify themselves and NOT work on changing - it is being abused. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Newflake Posts: 8 From: ON Canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2004 06:45 PM
I love you, 26Taurus. You rock!IP: Logged |
lalalinda Moderator Posts: 1120 From: nevada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2004 07:12 PM
don't forget all mutable signs have 2 distinct sides, positive and a negative. Just the fact archer asks so many questions and is all about learning is a sag quality. They are represented by the 9th house and the 9th house has to do with "higher learning" (astrology, truth seekers)IP: Logged |
sesame Moderator Posts: 86 From: Oz Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 06, 2004 09:05 PM
Yeah, I'd say look to your inner self. I don't meditate yet (it always seems when I state something, that later I'll do it, so this is my way of making me meditate), but I'd say start here. Also, I'm thinking maybe you're "spiritually insecerure". Are you torn up by religion and the meaning of your existence? I believe the main reason Sags are so "happy" is because they flop around thinking everything is made for them. I'd call this "blinf faith" but it truly does work. The more you project positivity, the more you will feel it. Likewise negativity, but I guess it can be hard to climb out of a deep hole, especially if you want to keep digging. It's very sad to see an archer upset. Well, WAKE UP! Your ALIVE! Go out and feel it! Heaps of LOVE (of course platonic), Dean. ------------------ People walk at their own speed... My numerology program based on "Star Signs" by Linda Goodman Logically Magical Logic is Magically Logical Magic! (and vice versa!) IP: Logged |
astro junkie unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 09:35 PM
I've said this to you already, a long time ago Archer - You are too hard on YOURSELF.IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 06, 2004 09:38 PM
think i mus try yoga for this energy thing. i just want the consistency to sit my ass in one place for a long time.thanks for the huge response. mars detriment thing and identity crisis sounds logical. thanks 26taurus IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1951 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 08, 2004 08:30 PM
I remember one of my first postings here had the same context, if not the same title even. With this perfectionistic Virgo rising Archer, maybe it's just you who cannot live up to your own expectations. Look at this neat stuff I found on the Internet. That's where I'm heading being a pessimistic Sag. Beware quote: The Narcissistic-Perfectionist-Aggressive Type (NPA) This individual obviously has a concurrent combination of all three of the behavioral complexes: glory, perfection and power. We would expect the following qualities: narcissistic ambition, perfectionistic attention to detail and sense of duty, and the aggressive need for triumph through power. It is not difficult to surmise that this person would be outgoing, active, and sexually vigorous.
This individual, having aggressive qualities, "plays the game", splits his personality to a subdued state when dominated, and his love is based on his narcissistic qualities, on the dynamics of the dependency of subjugation, as well as on his sense of perfectionist duty.
This character would be the most susceptible to be incited to rages, since both his vanity based on narcissism and his pride based on omnipotence are subject to being wounded. This is the narcissistic-perfectionistic-aggressive super-rage, or NPA rage (see Plate 21). This often begins with some violation, reasonable or not, of the individual's sense of perfection, order or justice. That is, all rules should be followed exactly; everything should be exactly in its place. After a few milliseconds of seething, an explosive rage bursts forth, first having an aggressive-vindictive quality to it and being personally directed. Gradually it becomes directed to the horizon, and may finally end as a narcissistic rage of defense and withdrawal. After the rage subsides, this individual's sense of duty may require him to apologize. We believe, in fact, that this individual is the source of the explosive personality disorder of the psychiatric literature, and is described in the writings of Aristotle:
"Quick-tempered people get angry quickly and with the wrong person, or for the wrong reasons, or more than is right. But they soon get over being angry; indeed this is the best point about them. It is because they do not control their anger; they are so quick-tempered that they retort bluntly and then have done..."
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Archer unregistered
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posted July 08, 2004 09:22 PM
i have come accross this test over the internet and yes i think my type was npa. i forgot the name of the test. yin?how am i hard on myself a.j.? i take things so easily. i've never had tension in my life. not even at the last moment of my exams. IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 1951 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 09, 2004 03:33 PM
Don't know, maybe http://web.tickle.com/personality/?sid=10&test=personality Here is more info: http://www.webspawner.com/users/narcissism/ Tz, if you are a NPA for real your life must be really hard. IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 09, 2004 10:46 PM
i don't think i'm an npa. i don't worry a lot about perection. the teste revealed i'm npa but iw as not very honest with the test! lol!Neerav IP: Logged |
pidaua Knowflake Posts: 67 From: Back in AZ with Bear the Leo Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 10, 2004 12:04 AM
Having Mercury in Capricorn combined with a Virgo ascendant can lend a more pensive sag, but not as negative as you have come across.I see that you are going through some major changes, many of us Saggies are at this time. The Transiting Pluto has also added power to your words as it has been in and out of your 3rd house of communications and has made a pass over your sun a few times. Mine will occur in the next few years. You are probably already feeling these effect as you felt the total opposition of Saturn in Gemini just last year- we all did and it taught us so many lessons. Basically Archer, you experienced the Saturn Pluto opposition Sandwich- but you made it through. You will only experience Pluto on your Sun once in your life time. We Saggies can expect lots of changes as Pluto clears away the old and replaces it with the new. Keep your chin up and look at the bright side, you are Jupiters Child and you will make it through this - but you will need to learn the lessons. Love and Light ~pidaua - another Saggie with Virgo / Pluto rising IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 11, 2004 02:29 AM
hi pidaua,well yeah i'm optimistic about life deep down there. its just that the current aganonising times make me speak the -ve. btw, i have always believe in the bhagavad gita's saying...everything that happnes is for the good. so no remorse. also, if its all about iping ou the old stuff from life why can't i get rid of my mom!!! lol ;-) IP: Logged |
Archer unregistered
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posted July 11, 2004 02:37 AM
this is my chart according to indian astrology system. http://www.astr o.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=2&mth=gw&hsy=13&zod=-s1&sday=11&smon=7&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=k0cfileMy1vnA-u1064484025&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= according to indian astr i'm a scorpio (moon sign is considered) and also pluto is in scorpio according to it. i'm witnising double change more on the home front then in communication. can u interpret this pidaua...or for that matter anyone else? IP: Logged |