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thegoat
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posted July 12, 2004 03:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are many people out there who are addicted to astrology. I have a friend who obsesses over the slightest details in his horoscopes. He believes what he reads religiously, and will let it cloud his judgment. I think it might be caused by hardships faced, or some other personal anguish. How can I convince him that what he’s doing is unhealthy?

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lovely*
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posted July 12, 2004 03:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey thegoat, why is it up to you to *convince* your friend? is his interest in astrology hurting others?

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26taurus
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posted July 12, 2004 03:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi thegoat,
And Welcome. Please send your friend straight to this site where he will find important info on Astrologers Anonymous.

After my boyfriend was done using the computer the other night, he told me it was my turn. I sat down and this was on the screen. Apparently he thinks I need help also.
http://lovestarz.com/aaHome.html

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26taurus
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posted July 12, 2004 03:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
here is something I found interesting:

THE ASTROLOGY TRAP

"This subject is a dangerous one for the spiritual student. It is of some assistance in some ways, particularly in familiarizing the student with his or her own patterns of life -- but the benefits are outweighed by the danger of going too much into agreement with its all too seductive ideas. Therefore it can be regarded as a trap. The horoscope of a birth defines the limited channels placed into a human body when it is born. Or perhaps I should say "allowed" instead of "placed?" This is not a good thing.
A person has unlimited potential. The spirit inhabiting a human body is for all intents and purposes a fallen god. But that full potential is not expressed through a body -- and in fact the body seems to act as a governor or regulator keeping the spirit from expressing that full potential. Part of that restriction can be viewed through the subject of astrology.

In astrology the full range of human behaviors, interests, strengths and basic personal qualities of all sorts has been arbitrarily divided into twelve groups called the signs of the zodiac. When someone is born under the influence of one particular sign or other, it is not a matter of the qualities of that sign being bestowed upon the person (that is the usual interpretation in astrology). Instead it is apparently a matter of the qualities of the other eleven signs being blocked.

This first came to my attention when I was reading a book on Chinese astrology. I noted a curious passage which baldly stated that planets acted as negatives. That got me thinking; and pretty soon I realized that the entire horoscope acted as a negative! It was as if a debilitating force was being projected into the solar system from a dozen locations in a ring around the system, only to be partially thwarted by the presence of the sun and a few orbiting planets which get in the way.

That last is only a working theory. I have no evidence to confirm it, only the circumstantial evidence that human ability is far less than it could be. Perhaps something entirely different accounts for the phenomena. That would be fine by me; I'm not married to that theory. But nutty as it sounds (and it sounds nutty to me too) it's the only explanation I've been able to come up with.

And believe me, a person's horoscope does indeed restrict the person into the particular narrow channels associated with the signs which figure prominently in that horoscope.

But here's a heartening bit of information for you: you can break out of those restrictions. That's where the intense study of astrology is useful. The student learns which qualities he or she is missing. Those missing qualities can be deliberately cultivated -- created out of nothing.

The downside is that a too intense study of astrology usually causes the student to completely agree with the restrictions -- keeping that student from ever breaking free of those fundamental assumptions. It takes a strong ability to disagree combined with a strong spiritual will (not emotional willpower, that's something different) to cast off the agreements in order to act and be something more than that mere hour of birth.

For those who study and practice spiritual sciences let this be your guide in relation to astrology:
1. For practical astral level work (most magical practices), astrology can be quite helpful.
2. For mid-level practices such as Scientology, astrology acts as a mild retardant.
3. For high level practices such as real Theravada Buddhism and Christian Science, astrology would have to be cast out of the mind completely. A student working toward the Buddhic, Nibbana, Christ Consciousness, and other names for that level should avoid astrology as a trap which creates an invisible ceiling beyond which the student cannot rise.

Ouran"

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26taurus
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posted July 12, 2004 04:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I believe astrology is an important tool people can use to help them along their paths.

The problem is, alot of people read to much into it and let it be the controller of their fate. They find out what certain things mean and think there is no other way to go. They choose to give their power away. Sometimes it's easier not to change, and they let astrology be the excuse for them.

If you are using astrology to put yourself into a certain mold it is not being used correctly. People are constantly changing. There are positives and negatives that can be found in all signs, aspects, houses, transits, solar returns.......

It is up to the individual to choose which route he will take. Will he choose to explore and live in the positive or feel he is doomed to live out the negative?

Astrology can only take you so far. And help you along the way. But ultimatly the power lies in your hands. Don't give your power away to astrology - that is not what it wants anyway. Don't abuse this gift. It has much to teach if you are open to learning it and not letting it completely define your Self.

It is here to help people grow and understand their strengths, weaknesses - and then work on making the best out of what energies the stars have blessed you with.

26

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soulsista
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posted July 12, 2004 05:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi the Goat

It is easy to get addicted to astrology or any occult form particularly if someone is going through hardtimes. I think anything that claims to be predictive is especially so as the person becomes hooked on waiting to hear 'good times are coming in'. Personally I find astrology a facsinating subject but I dont BELIEVE it as hard fact, I see it as a tool to understanding people. I have analysed friends charts and found interesting points but equally so I have read things that are simply not true. Also, any chart is riddled with contradictions.

I know flighty Taureans and sullen quiet Geminis and I have looked for aspects in their charts that explain this, but at the end of the day my friend is flighty because she is flighty and thats that.

I have felt in the past, that I too have become obsessed with the occult I have had to deliberately draw away from the subject to try to control it. Its a very easy trap to fall into, but its equally as easy to pull out of if you feel thats its becoming too much. Depending on what it is exactly that your friend is hooked on, if its personality astrology then great, but perhaps suggest that his interest in the human psyche and keen perception are ideal components to study psychology. This would would mean that he is broadening his scope whilst still maintaining his interest - the two could be used in tandem. If he is hooked on astrology as a means of predicting the future, well he has to learn that no-one can predict the future but we can all go a long long way in shaping our own fortunes - WOW, its actually me thats in control not a planet!! I love astology, its insightful, accurate and interesting but I switch it on and off. If I met someone handsome and witty tomorrow I would like to spend my time getting know him, enjoying events unfold, not pouring over his chart, I cant say I wouldnt look because I would but I see the person first.

At the end of the day, your friend is his own person and you can only voice your opinions rather than influence his choices. It may be that what is right for me would be wrong for him. It may be better to voice your concerns tactfully explaining why you are concerned, maybe address the reasons why he is becoming so emersed in the subject rather than the subject itself - but, if he doesnt change you may have to accept it as a new eccentricity of the friend you know and love.

xxxxxxx

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Nackie
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posted July 12, 2004 08:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
26taurus, too funny, your AA site.

I am now officially a saggitarius, I tested for and passed my celestial sign test.

http://jackrudy.com/ics/home.html

lol
Nackie, the saggie

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astro junkie
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posted July 12, 2004 08:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ask your friend when he started doing this. If it's been more than 3 years, start to worry. But if he's still learning how to juggle the energies, then let him be.

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Randall
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posted July 12, 2004 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

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thegoat
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posted July 12, 2004 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will try to reply to as many people as i can in this one post.

  • My friend's interest in astrology is not hurting others, but it is hurting him.

  • My friend is already an accomplished user of this website. That website for astrologers anonymous is great. The message for teenagers part. A lot of that applies to my friend.

  • The next few entries were really long, and i'm just too lazy to really say anything more than that I agree with a lot of what you guys have to say, especially the part that "Astrology can only take you so far."

  • I think it has been nearly 2 years that my friend has been addicted to astrology.

  • I like this last entry the best. It is the easiest to reply to as well. Thank you for welcoming me!!

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Archer
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posted July 12, 2004 11:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
atually ninad (thegoat) its been 5 years since i have been addicted! lol! but yes...its addiction. and it does cloud my thinking.

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aries-chick
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posted July 12, 2004 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sheesh you don't say...jk

I've read some of your posts before Archer and I honestly think you're overdoing it.

Try to lighten up more and be happy,

aries-chick

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Aphrodite
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posted July 12, 2004 03:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello thegoat,

What are your thoughts about Astrology?

Aphrodite

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pidaua
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posted July 12, 2004 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anything can become an addiction

Anything can become your god / goddess

Anything can be carried to an extreme


Astrology can be turned into a religion by those that rely on it too heavily in order to find some rationality in their lives.

Goat, I suggest that you let your friend have her / his way - also explain to them that every day horoscopes are NOT real astrology. Do you think you might just be a might jealous at your friends passion? Do you feel left out?

Archer - Dude...come on get a grip. You have been here long enough to stop wallowing in the depression. As my Leo granny would say 'Buck up' - that is an American phrase telling one to "get back up on that saddle and get back into life".

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Archer
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posted July 14, 2004 04:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Archer - Dude...come on get a grip. You have been here long enough to stop wallowing in the depression. As my Leo granny would say 'Buck up' - that is an American phrase telling one to "get back up on that saddle and get back into life".

i'm already on my way pidaua.

my friend ninad 'the goat' thinks only the -ves of the horroscope are comming right for him! lol.

aries chick..i'll try to lighten up. the things is nothing seems to be in 'my' control. things related to my life seem to eb dominated by my leo mother.

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astro junkie
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posted July 14, 2004 05:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
... rrrriiiiigggghhhttt ...

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calwes
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posted July 14, 2004 07:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been following astrology for ten years after my scorp girl cheated on me. I vowed from that time that I mmust analysed any one I came into contact with . I would subtly ask them their month of birth by reference to some behaviour of theirs. I alway like to analyse all charts of my close friends. I believ tha astrology is an important tool that should be used by HR department in all companies to hire people to ensure that the company get that best fit of personnel for the company

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pixelpixie
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posted July 14, 2004 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Surely, you see that it might be prudent, but it is not progress..... It's a subtle form of discrimination! I hope the entire chart would be taken into account. Who knows.. Kings and Queens made decisions based upon their Astrologer... but I can'tr help but think that this form of selection would be shortsighted.. like hiring someone on looks alone would be... do you know what I mean? It isn't the planets and placements themselves, it is what we DO with them that counts! We can understand and work with or against anything in our lives.. including our dominant chart placements. Maybe carefully weighing this in relation to their other qualifications, which is how you hire someone best suited anyway.....

Sorry that your Scorpio g/friend cheated on you.. Scorp is still a good sign for you.. just another reason to think that we are a product of all our charts, as well as our experiences... We are 'supposed' to be loyal, when we are happy.... but maybe she wasn't? Or maybe she was young and wanting something else.. countless reasons! I am always intrigued by signs as well... I can't help it. I will ''guess' all night, while talking to someone, and I am alot of the time, right..... But, if I am off, I usually have the element right....

Anyway.....talky talky pixie, tonight! Wow!

Where is St.Vincent? What are the particulars of your birth...the date, perhaps?

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astro junkie
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posted July 14, 2004 08:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK everybody! Let's start our own business, we can travel around the world, training HR personnel to interpret astrology to assist in hiring. I'd do it!

Who wants to start it?

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calwes
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posted July 14, 2004 10:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie,
St vincent is in the warm caribbean , south of jamaica and west of barbados. We have good climates all year round. My birth date is 3/3/1965 13.09N 61.14 W

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astro junkie
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posted July 14, 2004 10:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch out Pix - he's an Atlantian like me...

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Archer
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posted July 14, 2004 11:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the Hr idea souns crazy!!

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thegoat
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posted July 15, 2004 01:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will reply to a few people now:

Aphrodite

Horoscopes suck! They make you feel good when there's something good in there, and they make you feel bad when there's something not so good in there.

Personally, I can't stand day to day horoscopes. They invariably have bad news for me. And on the few days when they do have some really good news, it turns out to be completely wrong. As for Astrologers, I have talked to a few, had the whole palm reading thing and what not, and I was told that in the future I would be a politician. I can't stand politics! Next I was told to return to doing something I am unhappy with, and that my future love life will be screwed. I don't even know why I still have a little interest in astrology. I think I am just waiting for it to say that I am going to do something that really kicks ass!

The one time I really appreciated astrology was when I got a full report online of my personality and that sort of stuff. That turned out to correctly describe me for the most part.

Anyway, my overall impression of Astrology is that it is garbage.

Pidaua

I'm not jealous of my friend's passion, nor do I feel left out. My friend is not really getting anywhere right now, and he spends a lot of his time busy with astrlogy. He hasa deep interest in it, and i suggested that since this is one the things that he really likes, he should consider some sort of future with it, but he rejects that. I would like for my friend to succeed in life, and sitting around reading about astrology all day isn't really helping. Astrology is not something I believe passionately about, nor do I want to get involved in it. It is something that occasionally I get curious about. I don't particularly trust day to day horoscopes, and anyway they are mostly like fortune cookies. They don't really tell you anything you don't already know. A typical daily horoscope I read is something like "Be diligent at work today," or "Be caring with your family." I hold a little belief in talking to actual people (primarily because i've heard of other people having success at this), but the few times I have, it hasn't really turned out well. When I was very young, (I don't remember, but I believe it was) a palm reader predicted that I would become a politician. Today, I hate politics. A politician is something I would rather not be. Of course, I am still young, and maybe in the next 20 or 30 years I will change my mind, that remains to be seen. Then, yesterday actually, an astrologer guy told me my future marriages would be screwed when I asked him about if I was on the right path in college. I didn't ask about marriage, but he comes up with it himself, and he also says that I should pick a major that I don't feel very comfortable with. The other astrologer that I tried to talk to, a world renowned one, had one of the biggest attitudes in the world, and refused to talk to me without my paying her an exorbitant amount of money. So my conclusion is that these astrologers suck. If you pay them then they'll tell you what you want to hear, if you don't they'll tell you your life sucks! Astrology can probably be good especially considering how diverse it can be,(Western astrology, Chinese astrology, Indian astrology, bla, bla, and bla) but well I don't like all the bad news I’m getting from these freakers. Maybe it's been currupted into a business over the years so... I’m going to be immature and dislike astrology in general.

Also, my astro addicted friend informed me that I was in for 5 years of bad luck. So it doesn't really get much better for me astrology-wise.

To end, I think alcohol is much better than astrology!

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Archer
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posted July 15, 2004 01:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
u goat! when did i tell u tht ur in for abd luck. i just said pluto will bring harsh change 'after' 5 years when it enters the goat.

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thegoat
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posted July 15, 2004 01:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You Punk!

You said for 5 years, not after 5 years.
And even if it is after 5 years, it’s not exactly the greatest news in the world.

I have decided to completely disregard all this astro crap. It's up to me, and what I do that determines what will happen in the next 5 years and more of my life, not some stupid stars up in the sky. I went out drinking tonight, and it was damn good! Astro crap is not going to decide the outcome of my life, I AM!!

So Ha!

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