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PhoenixRising
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posted July 17, 2004 08:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came across an interesting article on ancient astrology regarding indications of fame in an individual's birthchart .The main points are paraphrased below:
1) The lot of Fortune ( the arabic part of fortune), Spirit, Basis or Exaltation or it's lord found in a pivot (angle) of the chart.
2) The lord of one of these found in the 10th from itself indicates honors, particularly in the 10th from the lot of fortune.
3) The lord of one of these found in another pivot (not the 10th) from itself brings eminence to some extent (particularly the first house).
4) When any of the 4 lots above have lords exchanging places, if, for example, the lord of Fortune is in the Spirit and the lord of Spirit is in the Exaltation and the lord of Exaltation is in the Basis, etc... this is an indication of eminence.
5) The lord of one of these lots conjunct a bright fixed star (particularly one of the 4 royal stars - Regulus, Aldebaran, Antares and Formalhaut).
6) The lord of the ascendant in the 10th or in some sort of dignity.
Any of these when present may indiacate that the person will huge gain public recognition and fame.
I guess many of my friends here already know a lot of astrology but for those who might not be familiar ,here's how you calculate the lot os spirit/ fortune/exalation-

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PhoenixRising
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posted July 17, 2004 08:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lot of Fortune =degrees of Moon +deg. of Asc. - deg. of Sun Lot of Spirit= degrees of Sun- deg. of Moon -deg. of Asc.
Lot of Exaltation= Asc. +19deg. Aries -Sun

Now ,i am not able to post the calculationof the lot of basis as i cannot exactly recall it correctly So if any one who knows how to find it please post it here for everyone ...also i treied a lot to find out how tho determine the postions of the royal stars mentioned in the article (like Regalus, Anteres Aldebaran and Fomalhaut)
I would be very much happy if anyone who knows the calculation shares his/her knowledge with other Knowflakes ...or if that's not possible ,please someone who has the right software to find these , let me know where these stars are positioned in my birthchart.My birth data - 2-nov. 1981. 5p.m. ,almora,india.
Love and Light,
PhoenixRising

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Archer
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posted July 17, 2004 09:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi fellow indian. i don't understand anything. just that my 10th house has no planets and the cusp is in gemini.

but indian astrology my 10th house has rahu (true node) in it. rahu is similar to pluto in characteristics. any idea what it means?

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Neerav

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PhoenixRising
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posted July 17, 2004 10:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Neerav,
just post your birth data and i will tell u whether any of these aspects r there ...bout ur 10th house empty i cant say much except 4 the fact that an empty house says that one does 'nt have many lessons to learn in that area...

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GemStar
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posted July 17, 2004 12:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Phoenix-I think it would be interesting to find out about Fame in th 10th...I have Pluto and Uranus in my 10th and often wonder if there will ever be anything more than constant change with my career. I have a lot of cool ideas abd continue to try them all out! ( Kinda like a Life list of To-Dos...)

Let me know what you think:

June 20,1966 4:05pm Sarasota, FL US

Thank You!
GemStar

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astro junkie
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posted July 17, 2004 12:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
For the forumlas used to figure out ALL the different kinds of "Parts", including a calculator which figures it out for you:::
www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php


In order to find the placements of your Royal Stars, go to astro.com.
Click FREE CHARTS on left
Click EXTENDED CHARTS
then on left bottom use the alphabetical listing for all other star bodies, find the code for the ones you want, and insert in proper field. TA-DA!!

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GemStar
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posted July 17, 2004 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks AJ-I will go take a look-see and figure some of this royal info-BTW...your posts are always so informative-thanks!!

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GemStar
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posted July 17, 2004 04:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro Junkie....WOW-this is a great website...I am not sure how this all fits together...I went to astro.com and found the extended chart sections-thanks. Now I am just staring at the screen....eek!! I am not sure what to plug in where?? Hmmm.....this may take a bit to think about...I know I can figure it out....

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PhoenixRising
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posted July 18, 2004 03:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi gemstar hello A.J.
i went to astro .com but the extended chart does not have the names of the stars i needed to find out...but after much hard work i fhave discovered a great site that gives the positions of all major fixed stars.here's the link- www.astrologycom.com/fixedstars.html
however i now have i qs. in mind the position of spica for eg. is given to be 23 libra ...now spica being a royal star ,does that mean that anyone having any imp; point of their birthchart eg. ascendent on 23 libra will have this strong indicator of fame ..is my interpretation right??

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astro junkie
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posted July 18, 2004 07:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Phoenix -

Next time you go to astro.com, put a checkmark in "ADD FIXED STARS" under the EXTENDED CHART section.

Sorry about that...

They come up!

Thanks for the alternate link too. It's the same one I had on file too.

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dorkus_malorkus
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posted July 18, 2004 08:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm, all I know is I have Part of Fortune in Leo, I believe. 12th house. I have Chrion in my 10th house, and that's it.

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