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Topic: Past lovers
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louisville78
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posted July 24, 2004 06:55 PM
 
Is there a way to determine how significant a previous relationship was by looking at someone's chart? The guy I have been flirting with has an ex that gives off the vibe that she is still intereseted. Their relationship began as he was in the process of getting a divorce and lasted about a year. It is very obvious that this person doesn't like me. He and I aren't at a place yet where I feel comfortable asking outright about this person or pointing out that she still throws herself in his direction. My birth date is April 26th, 1978, 1:43am in Louisville, Kentucky. His is August 28th, 1967, time unknown, in Shreveport, Louisiana. Hers is March 17th, 1975, time unknown, in Louisville, Kentucky. I have attached synastries if that helps because I wasn't sure what would. The first one is mine and his. The second is his with her. I really like this guy and get the feeling that he likes me too. We are still pretty much feeling each other out. I just don't want to get into the middle of something if what they had still isn't finished.
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=61&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=24&smon=7&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=drgfileibAt0e-u1085940741&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=3&nho2=6&btyp=61&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=24&smon=7&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=drgfileibAt0e-u1085940741&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= IP: Logged |
NightCreature
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posted July 24, 2004 07:19 PM
From a quick glance I can say that there is really nothing unusual in the charts.The 1st chart has better chances in succeeding IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted July 24, 2004 07:44 PM
Your moons are pretty different, opposite signs so you may not understand his style that well yet. He may not communicate to you what he's thinking, but if he is with you most of the time, the other woman will fade from memory.You have Mars in Leo in the 7th, that's pretty strong and you probably want to commit. Always check out your partner's sincerity and be honest with yourself before jumping in. You have been hurt before, don't get cynical, but be cautious. His Mars and Neptune are on his Ascendant which is a good sign, that works with your Mars. Also his 10th house is full and your's is empty, both your Venus signs are in water houses. What does astro.com say about your composite? Natasha
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louisville78
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posted July 24, 2004 07:58 PM
Here is the link for the composite. I'm not really sure how to determine what aspects are better than others. It would be nice to know though. We have been dancing around the relationship issue, but discussing everything else. Politics, religion, how much we "appreciate" each other, how "amazing" the other person's use of free time is. I almost fell over when he left me a message telling me he didn't need anything it was just that he hadn't talked to me in a couple of days.It's unnerving at times to realize that another person listens to EVERYTHING you say, even when you are talking to other people. He comes back with responses and questions days later.
Anyway...here is the link to the composite. http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?nhor=1&nho2=3&btyp=621&mth=gw&hsy=&zod=&sday=24&smon=7&syr=2004&rs=&orbp=&cid=drgfileibAt0e-u1085940741&lang=e&gm=a1&ast= IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
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posted July 24, 2004 09:42 PM
All I can say, seeing these charts aren't that exact without birth times, is to proceed with caution, although I would seriously hesistate at proceeded in general with this guy. The synastry between your and his charts looks like typical "rebound" material, relationship-wise. As far as I can see, there's more potential for one or both of you to just use each other for emotional ends, rather than there being more of genuine love connection. Sorry to be so blunt. I hesistant to say anything about this man's synastry with his ex because I just feel that would be too gossipy, but if you're looking at this guy as a potential romantic interest but have any concerns that he's not completely over his ex, I would suggest moving along and casting your love net in another ocean. Here's why:With a Gemini moon squaring a Virgo Sun/Merc/Venus conjunct this is an individual who's likely to be very conflicted and out of touch with his own emotional needs. Given there's still some emotional entanglement going on with his ex, he may not know what he wants right now, and with such conflicted influence of mutable signs, he's vulnerable to being easily swayed in the wrong direction, by either his ex or you. Adding to this, his Mars is conjunct Neptune in Scorpio, which may mean he easily deludes himself regarding his ego and desires, and could be possibly spiteful if his illusions of love are dispelled. So be careful. A person with Scorpio-inspired delusions and Gemini moon conflicts can potentially be exploitive of another person, or just plain deranged and unstable. Another thing that would concern me is that your Taurus is trine his Virgo stellium. This is no doubt potentially powerful and may feel like a genuine connection with him. But your moon is Sag is conjunct with Nep, which means you too can create a lovely illusion about your real feelings and your real motives. And since Sag moons aren't exactly this most empathetic moons around (sorry), you are in a position to exploit him emotionally during this vulnerable time in his life, with your Taurus influence dominating his conflicted Virgo persona. And like Natasha said, since your moons are opposing, you may be completely out of phrase emotionally with him and not realize it because of your Neptune influence. Unfortunately there just isn't much I can see in the synastry to weight out or overcome these potential pitfalls. Perhaps it'd be a little brighter if we had his birth time and could check his house placements, but in all likelihood it wouldn't help that much. This probably isn't what you wanted to hear, but maybe it's better just to leave this guy to resolving his marital issues while you go look for better, more hopeful options for yourself.  IP: Logged |
louisville78
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posted July 24, 2004 10:02 PM
I am going to try to be positive because that last note just about blew me out of the water. I agree to some extent with all of that, but am also believe that sometimes situations can be different than they seem. And for someone who has worked in social services for years now as a therapeutic support worker and counselor, I can tell you that empathy, believe it or not, is actually what my supervisors usually praise me as having an abundance of. I am also overwhelmingly aware of my tendency to not see the entire picture in my own relationships and therefore have become extremely cautious to the point of being jaded about peoples motives. We learn lessons from the past whether we want to or not. And despite my hesitation, and apparently his as well, I also have garnered enough about this person to realize that he wouldn't be putting any foot forward if he wasn't vaguely aware of what he is doing. We work together closely and I am good friends with his sister. Sadly enough, I am also involved in a scrapbooking club with his mother. Anything with us would carry over elsewhere. We are both aware of that. As for the ex, she and he were working as sales rep. and sales assistant together as he was getting a divorce. He is now the sales manager, I am the sales and contract coordinator, and she is a sales rep. From what I understand based on gossipy questions from others, he no longer treats her as he used to. In fact, someone pointed out the other day that he is very cool to her whereas she seems to still be attempting to get his attention. I am in the office with him day in and day out. She is at another location in a model home. I am sure none of this makes a difference in the interpretation you have given, but sometimes circumstances can change what is seen. I realize that you are just trying to open my eyes and believe me, if I was precautionary before, I am more so now. But it does break my heart a little I am sorry to say.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie
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posted July 25, 2004 12:45 AM
Bottom line.............
I haven't looked at the charts....
I love astrology. I love love and attraction.
Regardless of the many possible interpretations and opinions..
Do you like this guy?
Does he like you?
Is there potential?
Yes.
You know how things go.. you know how you actually feel, not how you are supposed to.
Don't be disillusioned or sad.
I have had great meaningfulrelationships with people whose personal planets were not astrologically supposed to even recognize my personal planets.. but boy, did we 'recognize' each other.
I have also had great relationships with people whom I wasa absolutely squared with.Go for it.
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louisville78
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posted July 25, 2004 09:15 AM
Thank you. You are very sweet. After a few hours of introspection, that was my thought as well. There have been guys who should have been very compatible with me who actually "taught" me all of the horrible lessons I have come to learn. I can't dismiss someone simply because of what their chart says they may or may not be like. From my experiences with his family and with him, I don't see any of what was suggested. Not to say it couldn't be there. But I can't run away from someone who is so incredibly supportive of me in EVERYTHING I do. I can't ignore the incredible relationship he has with his sister and his parents. Or the fact that he calls me when he is gone from work all day simply because he says he wanted to say hello. I realize that his marriage ended and the reasons should be looked at. But anyone that has enough presence of mind to voice the fact that he AND his wife just let the marriage die because they didn't take the time to communicate the way other couples do obviously is more in touch with his emotions that what his aspects suggest he should be. Now that I have gone on a tangent... I apologize. Believe me, everything isn't all roses. I have made sure from the get go that I was honest both emotionally and verbally when dealing with this person. I don't want to look back and say that my old insecurities ran me off track with this one. He handles it well. Sorry for the lengthy response...IP: Logged |
Jazzebel
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posted July 25, 2004 12:12 PM
Louisville,
come on, don`t be so discouraged. People here are nice but they are not professional astrologers. One may see one thing in the chart but dismiss other important things and so on. We are just fans of astrology.
I am not professional either but I have done hundreds of synastry charts so far and for what I see - yours is very positive one.
Moon opposit Moon is considered a very binding aspect and it gives a sense of completion between two people. Along with Sun/Moon conjunction and opposition, Moon opposite Moon is just as strong of a binding force.
The Sun, the most important of the planets has a very strategic position in your synastry too - his Sun falls in your 7th house and your Sun conjunct his DC (the relationship point) from the 6th house - no wonder you met and work together. Sun in partner`s 7th house or conjunct DC gives a feeling of "he/she is the One ". You have it for both of yourselves. Not only that- but also each of your Venus falls in the partner`s 7th house - that combined with the Sun 7th house placement makes for one of the most wonderful feelings ever. It`s a rare combination - each Sun/Venus to fall in the others 7th house!
You have a 7th house natal Saturn which usualy detonates a very cautious person regarding relatonships and usualy they feel like nothing will come to a good end after all. It may very well has been like that so far with your past relationships but here comes his Jupiter landing right on your Saturn makeing you feel warm and fuzzy, getting your guards down and leaving you feel more optimistic thou confused at times. You want to be in control and now you are not. His Jupiter trines your Moon/Neptune making you even more comfortable in his presense. Respectively - your Jupiter sextiles his Sun/Venus/Mercury which makes you both feel highly tolerant towards each other.
His Mars/Neptune on your MC is quite important too. MC is considered the "destiny gate" in the horoscope and any personal planet conjuncting it is of significant importance, both in natal and synastry chart. He will be protective towards you wheres your career and your public image is concerned, giving you a push and shoulder to lean on.
His Pluto/Uranus in square to your Moon/Neptune denotes a highly charged relationship with strong undercourent motives which sometimes seems hard to explain. You only feel them but cannot understand what makes you feel so attracted. Its like a magnetic force, imposible to sustain at times. It makes for an incredible sex too, I`ve heard. Saturn in opposition to Pluto is quite volatile, along with Mars sqaure Saturn - if you ever get together expect lash of supressed anger and fights every once in a while. I don`t have time to look further but do not worry, as long as astrology speaks - you have good synastry. The rest depends on you. ....my two cents, take it or leave it  IP: Logged |
louisville78
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posted July 25, 2004 12:25 PM
Thank you very much and I apologize for the defensiveness. I just wasn't prepared for the previous message being so blunt. Not that I didn't appreciate it or need it. I do tend to expect the worst and it seemed to confirm all of my issues and fears. Being in the dark makes me anxious... I greatly appreciate your support and reminder for me to take a deep breath. Things have been a little confusing for me lately and this person does have my guard down. A very unsettingly feeling for me. I prefer the control. Even harder to handle when I see him day in and day out. Just trying to make sense of it all. Some days it is just easier to verbalize it to see/hear it outside of my own head. Thank you very much again. I have calmed!!!IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted July 25, 2004 01:40 PM
On a totally practical note, how are his finances? Gemini Moons sometimes don't; pay attention to money. There are practical considerations to think about when getting involved with someone who is just getting over another relationship, and those preclude astrology.I recommend clicking here and going to Emotional Needs, then take the love busters quiz. http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi4501_enq.html
Find out if you are both compatible emotionally before getting involved physically. With everyone going on around him it's easy to get involved emotionally without understanding what the needs are in the relationship. Relationships are like separate people, they have their own identity, if you can't keep the identity separate from others, it's a challenge. In reality you have very strong emotional needs and you have to look down the road because that's where your mind will go. Don't be afraid to take stock, because if it doesn't work out you will make a good friend at the least. Lovers are not always the way to go, because a good friend is someone to hold on to when things get rocky for you. I believe you want someone to depend on, take the quiz and let us know how you feel, and keep in touch with developements so we know how things work out. I think he may be over his head financially right now so a physical relationship may be too much for him emotionally. His mind and body get ahead of him. Pluto/Moon aspects do make it feel as if you are magnetically drawn to him, but that's physical, sex is about ego. Be sure to remove your ego and look at things practically before getting involved physically. He will thank you for that, as he respects practical considerations first, no matter how he may act in the moment. Gemini moons like practical mates,
I was married to one for 7 years, and they are sweet, and endearing, but do not like to get wrapped up in emotional scenes too much. If you are otherwise compatible, it could work, but it requires a lot of work on your part, and you will need emotional support from friends and family. I have mars in the 1st house in Sag, so I am pretty emotional and idealistic myself. I say if you must fall in love with him, go ahead, do it over coffee, dinner, have a few romantic dates and see how you really feel at the moment. But do not think the Love Busters quiz is just a fluke, it's reality. After three or four dates, pull back and take the test again, and again. Natasha
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louisville78
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posted July 25, 2004 04:06 PM
Surprisingly enough, he seems very well grounded when it comes to money. We have actually had a discussion about this. He has absolutely no debt which just amazes me to no end. He pays for everything with cash or he doesn't buy it. I wish I could do that. He makes a very good salary as the sales manager. Our company is extremely generous is regards to commissions on homes that the sales reps. sell. He just bought his own house after selling the house that he owned with his wife. I know that he owns properties and a few pieces of land as well. Thank you for the link. I will have to go check it out. It's given me a lot to think about though.IP: Logged | |
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