posted August 05, 2004 10:18 AM
I posted this in another thread, but I think these meditations on Neptune deserve a thread of it's own. What do you think of your Neptune?
______________________________________The sun is the Ego, Neptune is the collective unconcious, dreams, the WE, versus the ME. It's the compulsion, the desire, to be part of something bigger than oneself, and at the same time understand ideals and big concepts.
Neptune is very similar to Jupiter, regarding ideals, dreams and big concepts. The danger is losing onself in the dogma of the dream. Compassion for that reason is the watchword of Neptune, compassion for others than the self, compassion for the collective, externalizing emotions without drugs or alcohol to numb the fear of losing the soul, the love of others.
Pisces and Sag are very similar.
"The solar system used to be much smaller. According to a new theory, Neptune long ago migrated away from the Sun and forced a vast field of giant boulders out with it. "
The reality is that the EGO and the WE used to be much closer, it's up to us in this lifetime to bridge the gap with compassion, understand and practical realization. The farther away your Neptune is from your Sun, the more people and lessons you will run across to help you in your journey. Relationships that work aspect your Neptune/Sun equation.
Fire and earth charts are less likely to be in a particular Neptunian relationships for a long period of time. I find that air and water heavy charts are more concerned with Neptune aspects. If you feel a deep powerful need to connect to someone on an emotional level daily, then I would say Neptune aspects are powerful for you.
"Remember that all observation, is self observation"
In that everyone speaks for his/her own experience including myself, but you speak from your own unconcious especially if you have much water in your chart. Listen to your OWN observations as well, because you are telling yourself what you need and want, do not discount this information.
Water heavy charts have a lot of self observation going on, once they tune into that and start to express it, they find first that they are observing about other people-possible romances-and then find that these observations are about the self. In the end romances are just a means to the end, to finding out more about the self, and working on the prize, finding out what is needed to be happy.
If you have a water chart, be sure to write down your dreams every day. There is powerful information of practical use.
Fire and earth heavy charts do not work this way many times, observing others leads to happiness without any kind of self awareness, since they are concious of self.
More about Neptune, so misunderstood!
NEPTUNE The Rapture...!
NEPTUNE ENERGY: Dissolves Boundaries, Removes Filters, Obscures, Disorients, Dissipates, Sensitizes, Sublimates, Refines, Rarefies, Romanticizes, Diffuses, Baffles, Befuddles, Confuses, Deceives, Disintegrates, Evades, Mystifies, Transcends, Undermines, Beguiles, Bemuses, Bewilders, Muddles, Enthralls, Entrances, Glamorizes, Delights, Haunts, Fascinates, Whispers, Murmers, Drifts, Blurs, Fades, Recedes, Withdraws, Weakens, Dilutes, Permeates, Pervades, Erodes, Floods, Leaks, Drowns, Merges, Communes
NEPTUNIAN STYLE: Nebulous, Beauty-Smitten, Mysterious, Disordered, Indirect, Elusive, Escapist, Lost, Frail, Enigmatic, Exceedingly Graceful, Unreal, Gossamer-like, Other-Worldly, Evanescent, Gullible, Addled, Hyper-Sensitive, Vulnerable, Fragile, Fine, Delicate, Incredibly Imaginative, Impractical, Feeble, Impressionistic, Fuzzy, Misty, Hazy, Magical, Mediumistic, Subliminal, Somatic, Oceanic, Out-of-it, Passive, Diffident, Self-effacing, Psychic, Fey, Quixotic, Highly Receptive, Spacey, Vague, Shapeless, Shifty, Liquid, Fluid, Dreamy, Diffident, Docile, Amenable, Humble, Beatific, Angelic, Inchoate, Slippery, Roundabout, Misunderstood, Self-Sabotaging, Altruistic, Aquatic, Nautical, Fishy, Indefinite, Ambiguous, Ambivalent, Musical, Poetic, Metaphorical, Feathery, Exquisite, Elfin, Chameleon, Psychedelic, Narcotic, Subversive, Behind-the-Scenes, Faraway, Cryptic, Can’t get a fix on, Stream-of-Consciousness, Ethereal
NEPTUNE CONCEPTS: Compassion, Oneness, Unity, Sympathetic Vibration, Resonance, Kindness, Unconditional Love, Make-believe, Fantasy, Sanctuary, Utopia, Holism, Addiction, Sacrifice, Pathos, Illusion, Delusion, Ecstasy, Bliss, Enchantment, Serenity, Mysticism, Idealism, Osmosis, Seclusion, Heaven, Nirvana, Devotion, Worship, Reverence, That Soul-Mate Feeling
SOME NEPTUNIAN THINGS: Music (esp. violins), Mythology, Altered States, Chemistry, Trances, Spirits (of both the ghostly & the alcoholic variety), Drugs, Pharmaceuticals, Allergies, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity Syndrome, Victims & Martyrs, The Siren Song, Divine Discontent, Meditation, Enlightenment, Soma, Ambrosia, Chimeras, Veils, Screens, Dreams, The Supernatural, Telepathy, Clairvoyance, Mermaids, Leprechauns, Out-of-Body Experiences, Holographs, Yearning, Fog, Mirage, Apparitions, Advertising, Oil & Gas, Misinformation, Dyslexia, Rose-Colored Glasses, Con Artists, Communism, Socialism, Counterfeiting, Propoganda, Fraud, Rumour, Slander, Filmmaking & Photography, EINSTEIN - Relativity & Quantum Physics, Webs, Fishnets, Networks
WHEN NEPTUNE SNEAKS UP ON YOU: Get thee to the sea... Dream...Surrender...
Get swept away...Serve a higher calling...Put yourself in others’ shoes...Go with the flow... Your doctor may not know this, but normal dosages of prescriptions are way too strong for you...Follow the path of least resistance...Choose your mind-altering substances very carefully - you’re so easily hooked...And better stay away from all kinds of cults, while you’re at it. In fact, find yourself a nice Solar or Saturn type who can help guide you back to earth. But then again, if anyone has no use for the ways of this world, it’s you...Try not to wander about at night all by yourself - you’re just the kind the Fairies like to abduct.
BODY PARTS: Neurochemicals / Feet
From this page http://www.crystalinks.com/neptune.html
Has photos of Neptune
n Roman mythology Neptune (Greek: Poseidon) was the god of the Sea.
Poseidon was the god of the sea, earthquakes and horses. Although he was officially one of the supreme gods of Mount Olympus, he spent most of his time in his watery domain. Poseidon was brother to Zeus and Hades. These three gods divided creation between them. Zeus became ruler of the sky, Hades got dominion of the Underworld and Poseidon was given all water, both fresh and salt.
Although there were various rivers personified as gods, these would have been technically under Poseidon's sway. Similarly, Nereus, the Old Man of the Sea, wasn't really considered on a par with Poseidon, who was known to drive his chariot through the waves in unquestioned dominance. Poseidon had married Nereus's daughter, the sea-nymph Amphitrite.
The Romans' name for Poseidon was Neptune.
In dividing heaven, the watery realm and the subterranean land of the dead, the Olympians agreed that the earth itself would be ruled jointly, with Zeus as king. This led to a number of territorial disputes among the gods. Poseidon vied with Athena to be patron deity of Athens. The god demonstrated his power and benevolence by striking the Acropolis with his three-pronged spear, which caused a spring of salt water to emerge. Athena, however, planted an olive tree, which was seen as a more useful favor. Her paramount importance to the Athenians is seen in her magnificent temple, the Parthenon, which still crowns the Acropolis. The people of Athens were careful, all the same, to honor Poseidon as well.
Poseidon was father of the hero Theseus, although the mortal Aegeus also claimed this distinction. Theseus was happy to have two fathers, enjoying the lineage of each when it suited him. Thus he became king of Athens by virtue of being Aegeus's son, but availed himself of Poseidon's parentage in facing a challenge handed him by King Minos of Crete. This monarch threw his signet ring into the depths of the sea and dared Theseus to retrieve it. The hero dove beneath the waves and not only found the ring but was given a crown by Poseidon's wife, Amphitrite.
Poseidon was not so well-disposed toward another famous hero. Because Odysseus killed the Cyclops Polyphemus, who was Poseidon's son, the god not only delayed the hero's homeward return from the Trojan War but caused him to face enormous perils.
Poseidon similarly cursed the wife of King Minos. Minos had proved his divine right to rule Crete by calling on Poseidon to send a bull from the sea, which the king promised to sacrifice. Poseidon sent the bull, but Minos liked it too much to sacrifice it. So Poseidon asked Aphrodite, the goddess of love, to make Minos's queen, Pasiphae, fall in love with the bull. The result was the monstrous Minotaur, half-man, half-bull.
As god of horses, Poseidon often adopted the shape of a steed. It is not certain that he was in this form when he wooed Medusa. But when Perseus later killed the Gorgon, the winged horse Pegasus sprang from her severed neck.
Poseidon sometimes granted the shape-shifting power to others. And he ceded to the request of the maiden Caenis that she be transformed into the invulnerable, male warrior Caeneus.
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METAPHYSICS
ASTROLOGY
Neptune is the ruler of Pisces.
Neptune: Ideals & Imagination
Neptune dissolves boundaries and barriers, enabling us to connect with the universe. It's about inspiration, imagination, compassion, ideals and communion. But, the other side of Neptune is about confusion, illusion and diffusion.
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In the mythology, it was dangerous to IGNORE Poseidon, but it was recognized that he was not of as much practical use as Athena. The danger is to ignore the unconcious since it ultimately can change shape and become a reality. For this reason Neptune is given a bad rap, as it seems very negative, but it's a part of your self that needs to be tuned into on a daily basis in order to stay healthy. The key is to be aware of it, and focus on the positive aspects of Neptune.
For all of us, Neptune is a positive powerful force if we are grateful for our dreams and ideals, because that is where our motivation springs from. By honoring that in our lives, we are telling ourselves, affirming ourselves, instantly communicating over and over again that our self is very important in the scheme of things, we are powerful and not dependent on others.
When Neptune is negative, it's simply because a person is focusing on the negative. You can see this in many ways with those who are dependent on others and vice versa and think it's a bad thing. Example a nurse who is burnt out in her profession. Being a nurse is not negative, it's positive if a person is regenerated. It's easy to dismiss Neptunian professions but in fact they are very life affirming for the giver.
If you want to touch on Neptune, write your dreams down and post them here, then we are getting somewhere!
Take Care,
Natasha
Taurus/6th Sun opp Scorpio Neptune/1st