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posted August 20, 2004 03:46 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's a gal (over 21) with the worst luck in love in the world. Try to imagine which Sign and/or influences would have success in meeting her, and what would they do or say?

Sun - Libra in 5th
Moon - Cancer in 3rd
Merc - Scorpio in 6th
Venus - Virgo in 4th
Mars - Scorpio in 6th
Jupiter - Capricorn in 9th
Saturn - Capricorn in 9th
Uranus - Leo in 4th
Neptune - Scorpio in 6th
Pluto - Virgo in 4th

Asc - Taurus 29.48 degrees
NN - Leo in 4th
Chiron - Pisces in 10th

4th House ruled by Moon
7th House ruled by Pluto
MC ruled by Aquarius
(and so on)

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sthenri
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posted August 20, 2004 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dont be self critical, that will only help you down the ladder! Now is the time to nuture yourself irrationally, not be constructive.


Go jump in the ocean, or sit in a bubble bath even if you feel silly. Just sit there and get bubbly, you have lots to look forward to.

You are somebody, you are Gloria, so you had great luck, when you were born!

No more down on self stuff okay?

Natasha

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 20, 2004 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Speaking as an Air Sun/Water moon woman, relationships are just hard, period. Personally I think we have every right to be bitter about this - no one else gets it. I seriously doubt I'll even be able to be in another relationship ever - even though I keep having damn Pollyanna weekend astrologers tell me, "ooooh, your Pisces moon's in the 7th house - you'd probably be happier in a relationship, because that's how you'll be most fulfilled!" Yeah right. Whatever - let them live through my past relationships and see how Pollyanna and "fulfilled" they feel afterward. I stopped dating in 1996 - probably the best thing I ever did for myself.

And I really hate to be the Prophet of Doom here, but I know of two other Libra/Cancer ladies, and one female Libra/Cancer celeb (a 60's/70's cult musician and tragic icon, now deceased) and none were lucky in love. Granted they're all exetremely attractive women, no doubt.

But to attempt a forecast for brighter hopes, here's my take: despite my very bad personal experience with Cap men, I think a Cap man with a water moon might work for you. Right now, I think forget the 7th house and move to the 9th house, which rules over second marriages and "late life" relationships. You've got Cap ruling there, plus Saturn, Cap's planet, and Jup, the planet of good luck. You possibly could be very attractive to an older, stable Cap man. Plus your Venus is in an earth sign, and Cap oppo your moon, giving some degree of challenge and interest. The amount of water in your chart is going to demand a sensitive, intuitive partner, so a water moon for him would be best. Ideally he should have some air, like an Aqua Venus or Mrcury or an air ASC or Jupiter to jive well with your Sun.

I suppose another earth sign might work for you for the same reasons,(probably Taurus I'm betting - a Virgo might try to go head on with your 7th house Pluto, and most likely lose in the first round) but I think a cap would have the stronger connection with your 9th house. But that's just my take.

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posted August 20, 2004 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much - my heart feels so broken and empty right now.... thanks...

I'm going through the same cycles over and over, since I was 16 years old!!!

Get chased down by guy who's crazy about me. He's shocked at how easy I am to talk to. He shares parts of himself to me, and I help him see certain things. Unexpectedly, he's gone out the door.

I take months or years trying to center myself (I don't believe in entering rebound relationships), and the same exact thing happens.

I don't know how else to be! Just don't want to be in a hypocrite relationship. But the guys I fall for always seem to find someone else they prefer more.

They all seem to leave the relationship with me feeling much better about themselves, while I'm feeling much worse. Can I be a total biatch? Hell yeah - and then they all line up for me. But as soon as I show my soft side, they're like wondering what happened to the biatch... can't win.

At age 42, and turning 43 soon, well - year after year just takes its toll.

There is no amount of breakdowns or breakthroughs which seems to release me from the seemingly sickening curse. I'm always good at supporting others, and I understand and accept that part of myself. But it does not seem to work in MY favor.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted August 20, 2004 01:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think the virgo venus is difficult, it's not that you haven't had chances to get married, you just didn't want the guys who wanted you, am I right?

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astro junkie
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posted August 20, 2004 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Absolutely, AriesRocks - there is never a shortage of men (whenever there's men around) - but I've even entered and worked very hard at relationships with guys who liked me who I normally wouldn't be attracted to - and yes, I find the love grows from there. But they ALL end the same way.

You know?

Like I've tried every single thing, like everything you read in all the girly magazines, and psychology books, etc. I'm the one who is usually willing to continue working at it. It's not like I'm all lounged out waiting for someone to serve me, you know? I'm very purposeful.

I've even tried "not trying". And after a while, the next thing after "not trying" is totally giving up!! I'm just physically sick, and it's like this is going to kill me one day.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted August 20, 2004 02:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

What is it that doesn't work in the end? do the guys leave? do they just want to be friends? do you leave?

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Navia
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posted August 20, 2004 02:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't feel sad, Astro Junkie. You carry messages for people and that's such a special thing! I have a Cancer moon and it would drown me if I let it. When I feel sad doing positive things like getting a manicure or an airbrush tan make me feel better. Shopping gives me a temporary high, like listening to some uplifting music. Putting my picture on a purple plate helps, too; it gives me extra energy, like watching a funny movie. 'How To Lose A Guy In Ten Days' is a riot!

Surrounding yourself with beauty might help, too. Flowers from my yard brought inside make me feel good. Maybe some silk to drape over your bed or a pretty art print and some jasmine-scented candles...

Don't forget about free will! Every moment the way we choose to feel and think will direct us toward a particular path, so when we focus on positive things (I like angel readings and writing stories)it should put us back in the right direction. Always know that you are loved, and the angels must love you very much because of your spiritual gifts.

As for age, are you trying cell regeneration yet? I'm just beginning to, and the grape juice makes me feel detoxified, but I still have to get the PABA. Maybe you're just taking a break from focusing on others to help yourself for a change, you know the Cancer moon makes people want to help others all of the time. When I was single it was always when I took care of myself and didn't look for anyone that they fell into my lap!

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 20, 2004 03:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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LibraSparkle
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posted August 20, 2004 03:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Forget that smiley first one

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sthenri
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posted August 20, 2004 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gloria, this feeling will pass, remember that you weren't with Mr. Libra for that long. Be thankful you didn't spend 7 years with him! Is there a message in relationships? The only message is that we learn to share, if he wasn't into sharing than you are well out of it so you can start again.

At least you've got friends!
This life is hard, but you have buddies to lean on, always, always. More than what some have.

As for my 9th house, what about me, am I ready for a Leo? With Leo on the 9th, I just don't know..if I hadn't met a Leo I would have been a virgin still! So I still have some bitterness there, I could have been a vestal virgin!

Oh well, maybe I will meet a gentle Leo, and you will meet a sweet Cap, or something like that. Or maybe you will win the Lotto and Mr. Libra will be eclipsed. When you do meet someone special it's because he is special, not because of anything he does or says, so dont' worry.

Mr. Libra just didn't make the cut that's all.
He blew his chance and now you are getting back to center. I know, I have gained weight, have home repairs to do, all because I wasted time with the one I was dating, but he's a friend at least sometimes. And now is a good time to focus on friends I have ignored and who are hostile.

Take Care,
Gloria,
Remember you have good buddies

Natasha

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astro junkie
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posted August 20, 2004 07:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesRocks -

What happens in the end? There's someone else in their life. Either someone in the past, present, or future who they prefer. NOT someone they've been upfront about in terms of their feelings for them. Maybe they weren't sure of themselves, and I inadvertently give them the boost they need to go for that person. But I'm the last to know.

And in terms of karma, it doesn't fit because I've NEVER been the type who steals a guy or dates a guy who is serious about someone else. So in terms of karma, I have no idea with the .f. is happening!!


Navia -
It's true what you said about nourishing ourselves when we are alone. Thanks.


Natasha -
Thanks.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted August 20, 2004 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You certainly do have a lot to offer AJ. Don't give up hope. I am feeling in a similar boat right now, but refuse to give up. I just haven't met the right one yet.

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astro junkie
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posted August 20, 2004 09:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BlueTopaz -
Thank you for that... it's a wonder that my Mars is Scorpio in the 6th is the focal point of my whole Chart.

Just did a little research and HERE IS THE KEY:::

I'm typing this from Linda Goodman's Relationships book - Regarding Saturn Conjunct Uranus :::
"No two planets are as widely divergent in the matters they influence as these. One of them (Saturn) is asociated with the old & the past, while the other (Uranus) is associated with the new & the future. On the surface of it, these two planets have nothing in common.

However, when their divergent infuences combine in a conjunction aspect between the birth charts of two people, the vibration becomes highly advantageous, blending the best of both influences into a possibly powerful harmony. Saturn's wise practicality can help Uranus's ingenuity find constructive channels, and Uranus's brilliant (if unconventional) concepts can help to stimulate Saturn's material ambitions, Saturn's long-term goals. When Saturn drifts into anxiety & apprehension, Uranus can be of great help in breaking Saturn's bonds of melancholy & depression.

Uranus can gradually persuade Saturn to be more liberal, progressive, & adaptable to change, while Saturn's prudent panning can prevent Uranus's unorthodox & independent urges from becoming irresponsibly eccentric.

In all of these ways, the old & the new symbolized by these two planets work beneficially & harmoniously when blended in a conjunction between two people. But to take full advantage of the vibrations; to receive the mutual benefits possible, Saturn must try to be a little more flexible, and Uranus must learn to be a little more reliable & responsible. Not a lot--just a little! In other words, to change slightly the American Indian saying, you two should periodically walk a few miles in each other's Moon boots."

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Jazzebel
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posted August 20, 2004 09:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh AJ...you simply don`t believe me, do you?
I`ve tod you two times already that you will meet someone at the end of this year/beginning of 2005, and much love awaits for you in 2005 and 2006 with someone special...but you just don`t listen to me..oh well

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astro junkie
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posted August 20, 2004 09:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You mean this toots?


"Hi Gloria,
sorry to have brought you to tears but you really shouldn`t have. I can understand your frustration though after looking at your progressed/directed chart. Directed Venus is right now in exact square to your natal Saturn. You are going to feel better after it goes away.

As for the fateful meeting at the end of this year/beginning of the next, I saw that in your Solar Arc directed chart. At that time directed North Node will come to an exact conjunction to your natal Sun.

Directed Nodes to natal planets always coincidence with a time of fatefull meetings with important people in one`s life. Like for example, when Proxieme (from this Forum here) met for the first time her future husband in June last year, her directed Nodes were sitting exactly on her natal Sun. Sun= men in a female chart and more over Sun rules your 4th house (family).

Anyhow, at the time when your directed Nodes will be conjuncting your natal Sun, your directed Moon will start a conjunction to your natal Venus. Its the loveliest aspect ever to have in progression/direction. There is no way one wouldnt experience love under this aspect. The conjunction will be felt as early as the beginning of 2005 (just when the North Node/Sun aspect occures) and will become exact in the summer of 2006. What is curious thou is the fact that during that time you not only have directed Moon on natal Venus but at the same time your directed Venus will be in exact (0.00) square to natal Moon - a double yummy! At this very same time - believe it or not, your progressed Moon will be in exact opposition to your natal Venus. So you basicaly have 3 aspects involving Moon and Venus and all of them going on at absolutely the same time - June/July 2006. The square and the opposion aspect spells for frictions so not everything will be smooth but both Moon and Venus are soft planets. Moon/Venus progressed/directed aspect also spells pregnancy but I am not sure how you feel about this.

What bothers me though, and what will be bothering you too, is the upcoming directed aspects between your Pluto and Saturn. To have just one of those aspects in one`s predictive chart is very tough (Michael Jackson is having right now Pluto opposing Saturn) but you are going to have them both at the same time - directed Pluto in square to natal Saturn and directed Saturn in square to natal Pluto). This is going to be hard!. Surprise or not but those two heavy aspects will be running simultaneously with the three Moon/Venus aspects you are going to have in the summer of 2006. Pluto rules your 7th house of marriage, Saturn rules your 9th house (legal stuff, long distance affairs/divorces, and all this crap). So be aware, this will be such a halmark time for you.
The good news is that Saturn/Pluto double aspect will fade away but your Venus will continue its journey for the next years - after the conjunction to your natal Moon (lovely love), then it will be conjuncting by progression your natal Neptune (very dreamy and romantic state of affair), and then it will conjunct your natal Mars (hot and passionate). Sounds good, I hope

hey, you had some heavy Venus/Mars/Uranus aspects 2 years ago, what happend in 2001?
Did you break up with someone back then? Was it hard for you?"

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... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness

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posted August 20, 2004 10:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yep.....right this toots.
Brace yourself coz North Node is cumming to get ya

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astro junkie
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posted August 21, 2004 12:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Mamma ... thanks ...

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scorpbaby
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posted August 21, 2004 02:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A.J
You've done so much on this forum to help everyone out, don't worry about your karma, it's great! I'm still amateur so I dont have much astrological advice to give but here's a daily affirmation from one of my books. It always helps to keep thinking positive thoughts when your down (it's hard sometimes I know, just fight it) this one always helps me.

"In the infinity of life where I am, all is perfect, whole and complete. I live in harmony and balance with everyone I know. Deep at the center of my being there is an infinite well of love. I now allow this love to flow to the surface. It fills my heart, my body, my mind, my consciousness, my very being, and radiates out from me in all directions and returns to me multiplied. The more love I use and give, the more I have to give. The supply is ENDLESS. The use of love makes me feel good; it is an expression of my inner JOY. I love myself; therefor I take loving care of my body. I lovingly feed it nourishing foods and beverages, I lovingly groom it and dress it, and my body lovingly responds to me with VIBRANT health and ENERGY. I love myself: therefor, I provide for myself a comfortable home, one that fills all my needs and is a pleasure to be in. I fill rooms with the vibrantion of LOVE so that all who enter, myself included, will feel this love and be nourished by it."

Book- "You Can Heal Your Life" by Louise Hay

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astro junkie
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posted August 21, 2004 03:24 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow - It's really difficult lately to keep my Leo influences from wanting - what do we even call it? - I suppose positive acknowledgement for one's life.

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LeylaLeFay
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posted August 21, 2004 08:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A message from beyond:

These men usually come to you wounded and broken in some way. They attach themselves to someone stronger (you) so they can feed off your energy and grow.

After that they are a different person. They have grown into someone new. At that point they no longer need you. That's why they leave.

The person who's leaving is not the same person who entered the relationship.

There is a phrase "Who you're with tells where you're at" (in your own development.)

You need to find a way to move past the "rescuing" phase. The fantasy in the back of your mind is that of "rescuing" someone from your past, and fixing that person. In the fantasy they are grateful and love you and appreciate you and stay by your side.

You're doing fine at the rescuing part, but afterwards they no longer need the rescuing and they've outgrown you. By fixing them you have enabled them to move on.

The solution is not to "keep" that person emotionally crippled so they can't leave.

The solution is to stop dragging home emotional cripples.

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posted August 21, 2004 10:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see that LaLey - I mean, logically what you say makes sense, the reason the cycle keeps starting over. Still having a difficult time accepting that guys would do that - but it's true and explains why they move on as a different and "better" person.

I'm such a mix of vulnerability and strength, it's really difficult if not completely impossible, to know what's what. And it would seem that if I have some strength they latch onto, that I would see that strength myself and know it can be abused, but I don't.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted August 21, 2004 11:09 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

So after being attracted to you they decide that they liked another person better?

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posted August 21, 2004 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can see what Leyla is saying here. I don't think it has anything to do with you, you are wonderful. But that may be the thing, not problem, but the thing that attracts them to you in the first place. You are strong, and insightful, and know yourself really well. Men always have that ''need to be mothered/nurtured'' thing, even if they were'nt taken away from the nipple too young. You to them are like a professor. You give them whatever it is they were lacking, or help them see things they were afraid of, or insecure about. They are left feeling like they have been reborn, and can now be who they couldn't be before. It sucks that they then use the knowledge you have given them to be with someone else. I think maybe you need to be with someone who can teach you? Someone that isn't intimidated by the aura of you, and can feel like they are equal to where you are spiritually/mentally/emotionally. Does that make sense?

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soulsista
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posted August 21, 2004 01:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Astro

I think from memory our charts are fairly similar, I too am Libra, Libra moon, venus in virgo, pluto in Virgo, Scorpio rising and mercury in scorpio. I have been single for 3 years, not so much as holding someones hand in all that time. I came out of a really bad relationship ending that really did me over and I actually NEEDED to be single. Anyway, I know how you feel, Im 36 never been married, I would love kids but thats looking increasingly unlikely, there are times Astro when I could really break my heart, thinking of the past and feeling, even though I have AMAZING friends, lonely and sometimes isolated.

But whenever I feel like this I tell myself that this is the Libran journey, I have to learn to be happy and comfortable with just myself. So that when (and I am that optimistic) I go into my next relationship I will be a whole not a half who needs someone to complete me, I will learn from my past mistakes and I wont drag them into my next partnership.

You will meet someone, all of us do, but in the meantime you can really work on trying to be as happy as you can just being you and YOU ARE A GREAT PERSON.

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