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posted August 28, 2004 05:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK guys -

This Composite has :::

In the 7th House -
Venus, Mars & NN in Virgo
Pluto & Uranus in Libra

In the 8th House -
Sun, Moon & Mercury in Libra
Saturn in Scorpio

In the 9th House -
Neptune in Scorpio

In the 2nd House -
Jupiter In Aries

What do you think?

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astro junkie
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posted August 28, 2004 11:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Almost forgot -

Asc is Pisces
MC Sag
Chiron Aries in 1st House

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posted August 29, 2004 12:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ComeOnComeOnComeOn!!!

If someone posts something I'll ... I'll...

for you

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 29, 2004 01:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are you going to tell us who this is?

It does seem nice. If it works, it should work very well, although I think it'd be stronger and more stable if the Venus was in conjunction with the Sun or Moon and not Mars.

Pros:

Jup oppo 8th house (very lucky)
Venus in 7th (good place for Venus)
Sun-moon conjunct (good harmony)
Sun, Moon in 8th (this could be pretty interesting, especially in the bedroom...or in the shower...or on the kitchen floor...)
Pisces ASC/Virgo DESC (exteriorly you project a sense of intuition and empathy about each other; interiorly you are willing work for the relationship and help each other)
Uranus in 7th (keeps things interesting )

Cons:

Chiron oppo 7th (too much unresolved emotional baggage to irritate that 7th house activity)
Both Mars and Pluto in 7th (too much potential for ego
clashes and power plays that would turn love to hate)
Saturn in 8th (could repress positive energies from Sun-moon conjunct)

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posted August 29, 2004 02:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm willing to try for the pro's... hope we're learning to give each other space. Working on it (which by the way, could turn out to be a total disaster).

What do you think of the con's? Does it have a sense of balance to you, or should I just apply it at will. Is there a danger up there in them hills?

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 29, 2004 12:41 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, if this was two very young people with little experience in relationships and probably not very self-aware, I'd say the cons would mostly destroy the relationship. With mature people, it really could be a whole other story. I wouldn't worry to much about Chiron - at this stage in your life you two have probably accepted you each have your own baggage and so does everyone else (at least I hope so ). It could be a problem if there's ongoing issues revolving around that baggage, like a drinking problem and what not. In which case, you probably know what you are willing deal with in a relationship and make choices accordingly.

Saturn may not be such a big deal in a relationship with people over 30. Saturn is just more agreeable to us and our relationships as we get older, and often by then we appreciate the stablity it can offer. And on the good side, it would add noticeable stablity. It's just a qustion of whether the two of you want that kind of stablity right now and can accept it might take off some of the "edge" of the relationship's overall energy and dynamics, since it's sharing a house with both the Sun and moon.

Since Satun's in another sign than Mercury I'm assuming it's not orb conjunct with mercury - if by chance it is, you will need to be attentive to working on communciation and not let the flow of communication get blocked up or oppressed. Look at the Mercury aspects in the synastry between your two charts, too - if these are difficult you may have to put some effort into learning to communciate with each other. The good news is that witha Sun/moon conjucnt and Ven/Mars conjunct, you two may enjoy each other's company enough to get along so you have time to feel each other out and to develop really good communications between each other.

The biggest con would be the Pluto and Mars business. I have a lot of experience with intense Pluto-Mars aspects, since I have Pluto for a rising planet - I am always getting myself into trouble along these lines. The key to resovling this is to channel Mars (ego, aggessiveness, libido) into Pluto (tranformations, regeneration, subconscious desires and memories, the unseen regions of our psyche). We do better trying to channel Mars' energies than Pluto, since Pluto's energies are almost impossible to own, being so subtle, hidden and profound. It also works out better this way: Mars provides a lot of "raw" and unrefined energy, and Pluto is capable of refining it, transforming it and making it productive. The positive potential of this Mars-to-Pluto activity is that it can transform both you greatly as individuals, bringing further growth, awareness and integrity. But it's something you must consciously work at, or otherwise Pluto and Mars will just conflict with each other and drive a wedge in your relationship: ego clashes and subtle little power games at the first clues that this is occurring. Both of you will have to make the choice that you will be willing to side your egos aside and be open to any transformation that may happen as the result of this relationship.

Good luck!

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posted August 29, 2004 01:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YiPPPPeeee -

Thanks for that GeminiNymph. Luckily, Saturn & Merc are NOT Conj. Also, since we've known each other for a while, we are sort of familiar with how each deals with stress/baggage, so we are still learning, but we basically trust each other.

With the Saturn challenges, I'm assuming our Natal & Synastry aspects will help because of our Capricorn influences.

I wasn't sure what you meant about the aspect orb itself of Mars & Pluto. I don't believe they are aspected, unless I'm missing something. But it's interesting you brought up the transformation and ego thing. Since being together we've transformed a lot, and in our personal Natal's we both have that ability. And since we both have Libra Sun's it helps downplaying the ego.

That's so cool. Thanks. It DOES seem like a lovely little Composite, doesn't it...

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... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness

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missio
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posted August 29, 2004 08:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's a potent blend, the kind of energy which powerfully draws two people together. It will happen; almost not much of a choice, really.

You are likely to have interesting experiences with that 8th house Sun + Moon.

It's a journey!

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 29, 2004 09:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem with Mars and Pluto isn't so much tey're orb conjunct (I was assuming they weren't) but simply sharing a house, and the 7th at that. Other aspects play alot in determining how well these two planets will share this house together,a nd because it's int he 7th, there's no getting aroudn that both will have a lot of influence on your relationship. So even if they're not closely aspected in terms of degrees, their respective influence will defintiely be present regardless, and thus still have the potential to conflict with each other. I hope that clarifies it.

I have found that when you have Mars and Pluto energies coming together so closely, that it can be very productive even if each person has big egos, as long as the two egos work together or otherwise not competing against one another. I am presently looking at the synastry and composite of friendship with someone who had a tremendously life-altering affect on my life (I'm going to post about this sometime soon), and contuines to now, even though he passed away several years ago. In out synastry, his Mars was oppo my Pluto, which could have been disasterous, seeing neither of us are what you could call humble and there were plenty of other tense aspects that could've prompted an ego conflict. However, we respected each other and could even kid each other about our egos, and he saw me as someone he genuinely wished to help while I was very open and receptive to him, so our big egos were never a problem. The result was very transforming for both of us.

Ego conflicts, which usually charged by Mars energies one way or the other, are the biggest trigger for Pluto's dark, destructive side, since ego conflicts are often fueled by the subconscious, which is Pluto's domain. If you two have a good ego rapport, regardless to how "big" your respective egos are, chances are you both will find this a very enlightening, transforming and revealing relationship, since Pluto in the composite is in such a influential position.

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astro junkie
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posted August 29, 2004 10:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
missio... HAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... she's like butta ...

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astro junkie
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posted August 29, 2004 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Gemini Nymph -
Thanks for sharing that too. You've... I had to read that a few times to make sure I understood what you were saying, and I was like wooooooowwww...

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astro junkie
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posted August 30, 2004 03:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK -

I have a question. Since Composite uses the Midpoint method, does that mean the Composite affects each person about the same ( in terms of the relationship being comfortable ) ?

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missio
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posted August 30, 2004 09:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite does NOT affect each person the same. Use traditional synastry: composite to your chart; composite to his chart.

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missio
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posted August 30, 2004 09:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite is an energy field of togetherness.
It is where "you(s) become one".

That mutual energy field, in turn, can therefore affect each person individually in different ways, and each individual can uniquely "fuel" the relationship (composite) according to the synastry between each natal and mutual composite.

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proxieme
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posted August 30, 2004 10:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What do you think of the validity of the Davidson Composite (and then individual chart Davidson Composite to that created chart)?

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sthenri
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posted August 30, 2004 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
?other question, Gloria, outer planets such as Neptune become more important as we get older, rather than personal planets.

Neptune in your 7th? you are part of his dream, meaning he has dreams and ideals that he sees in you. He may have known you before, or have met someone like you before, or want you to help with a Neptunian project and sees you as someone wise in all things Neptune.

You do have Neptune conjunct Mercury correct?
So that would give an artistic flavor to the personality, and you project that you belong to many people. The identity is projected as changeable, fascinating, and glamorous.

This would work with your Neptune in his 7th too, there is a mutal regard for each other's Neptunian side, you may work together on a project, and I highly recommend that.

Mr. Libra has Sag rising, which is co-ruled by Neptune, but his boundaries are different, more rigid. His biggest fear is that your body is boundary-less that is you belong to everyone and anyone, and can't be contained.

When good, he sees you as a source of endless creative, glamorous and sensual power, when bad, he believes he cannot have you for himself and may have irrational jealous fears that you could love anyone as much as him.

His insecurity is irrational so it has nothing to do with your actions.

Play up the Gyspy, but don't wander, and he will feel both loved, and fascinated.

Natasha
PS and don't leave him alone for a month

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astro junkie
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posted August 30, 2004 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Natasha -

Thank you so much for that. Your insight is always unique. Everything rings true. I think it's so true what you said about him seeing me as someone who can love anyone as much as I love him. I think that's been a major theme lately.

Don't leave him alone for a month? Hee hee... yeah, I'm working on that. Sometimes we both have that thing in common, where we feel we would do better isolating ourselves in order to "spare" our partner from our personal struggles or weaknesses.

This is the part about fighting for love, or for the one you love, which I hope to learn in time. Do you think he's the type who likes to see a woman fight for him?

Thanks again.

.gloria

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