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iAmThat
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posted September 13, 2004 01:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is astrology? Is it a system devised by God. Is it only limited to beings on earth?
Or beings on other earth, also subject to same rules.

Is it that only our body is subject to the laws of astrology not our spirit. The spirit is trapped within the body. Oh what a wretched existence.

There should be a way to fool it. This big matrix that was created..

Any thoughts how?? Folks just share your thoughts...lets bounce ideas

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lioneye68
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posted September 13, 2004 02:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my god! That's so weird. I've been thinking about this recently. Is our goal here in this existance to over-ride the influences and tendancies put upon us by our Astro-forces? I think we need to have those forces within us, in order to give the spirit a mode to figure out how to interact with life, otherwise we might all just sit around staring at one another, completely passive and indifferent to everything about life on earth.

We need the limitations, as well as the strengths, otherwise we would have nothing to negotiate here, and what would be the point?

Also, I believe that Astrology is a physical science, based on the 'quork', which interacts with our finer physical make-up, ie, our psychic energy known as our aura or our chakras, and when we are free from the physical world, we are no longer under those influences. We don't need to be, because the Truth is what guides us, and we can see it just as easily as we want to. Some don't want to, they would rather cling to the memories of their former guide, their personality, but it's only a memory or a habit at that point.

Geez, when I read that back, it sounds like it doesn't make any sense. Do you get what I'm saying iAmThat?

I'm inclined to think that all beings who exist in the flesh are in need of Astro-influences, in order to negotiate life in the flesh, but the planets, signs, and all the details may be unique to each solar system. Of course they would be. What a mind-blowing concept!

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Lynx
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posted September 13, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have this theory going on. Supposedly, there's this thing called the Akashic Records, that records all of the history of our world. I don't just mean textbook history, all of it. These records are in the stars. So I'm thinking, a meteor fell to the earth and fragments of that meteor are part of what created us. If that were the case, we'd be made out of stars. Our star fibers would be in tune with the stars in the heavens, connecting us to the past and to the collective consciousness. We're just different stars with different tunes.

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pidaua
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posted September 13, 2004 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good answer Lioneye (how are you doing in your digs?).

I think it is a very scientific subject that also relies on intuition as well as must accept the role of free will. So many people take a subject, theory, religion and apply it in the strictest sense to their lives, that the can't understand when everything doesn't work out 100%.

They forget that we are all human, church leaders, scientists, gurus, astrology phenoms...are all human- prone to giving great to not so great interpretations.

Sometimes people want to act outside of their sun just to prove they are not the typical "Leo..Sag..Cancer" etc...

Cool question..cool answer..

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iAmThat
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posted September 13, 2004 05:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Lioneye68,

Its a great answer. To respond to your first question about goal, is salvation a better word for this.
Do all these humans forms, Jesus, Krishna etc...come to give exactly that message?
And why do they do this? What's in it for them?

Are we stuck here forever untill we escape.
Well its a seperate topic by itself don't you think?

About the latter part of the question. I think I do understand what you are trying to say.
Its an interesting point too. When we die, is it the only time when the truth is revealed to us. Is it we, who chose to stay in the old. Its a free will remember? God cannot force it on us We are so attached in our life. To our parents, to our sisters etc.

Or is this revelation revealed only to those who scored a A grade in the previous human life

I also want to add a clarification to my initial post. When I said other beings I
meant beings who are made of matter just like us. I want to make a distinction
between energy and matter (our spirit is energy not matter and our body is matter).

Hi Lynx,

You have made an interesting point too. During big bang all matter was one.
Only thru years it cooled, stars were born and then planets.
If life was brough by a comet which traverses stars (not a meteor, I have to correct
you here). Then why is each human unique? Even within a zodiac sign.

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iAmThat

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iAmThat
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posted September 13, 2004 05:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take solace guys...I read a beautiful reading few days ago. Can't remember who wrote it...It said...


"If I am given to chose between the truth and the search to find it, I will chose the latter"

Isn't it wonderful...to each one its a journey and sooner or later all will find it.

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Lynx
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posted September 13, 2004 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lynx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Then why is each human unique? Even within a zodiac sign.

Because every person is a star in themselves.

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lioneye68
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posted September 13, 2004 06:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess the truth is only really the truth if it resonates within us, and all the searching and yearning and learning and hurting and healing and loving is what prepares us to absorb it. Life has to tenderize us first, to make us ready to receive it. I really don't know if you can get to that point without some suffering first. You probably have the opposite effect on yourself if you deliberately cause suffering in others. You move further away from being able to resonate with Truth, and you'll make the journey back that much longer.

That's probably why we're here. To graduate to a point of being ready to accept Truth, and we have to keep coming back for as long as it takes, until the clock stops and time's up.

Sorry, Don't mean to sound like Yoda or Ramtha or something, but hey, my 9th house Venus square 12th house Neptune has to be good for something

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paras
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posted September 13, 2004 09:18 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good to hear from you, Lioneye.

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Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.
--Mahatma Ghandi

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iAmThat
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posted September 13, 2004 10:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi LionEye,
Good thought....

You are right, we all have to experience it..each to its own...experience it deep within...within our blood...

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Suzume
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posted September 14, 2004 12:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok,

I heard that we did originate from the stars. A rock hit earth, and we evolved from (Bacteria) that was on this rock.

Here's my thoery.

We are what we believe...

If you believe in astrology, you will find yourself acting how you should until certain times.

In this sence you can *step out of the box*

Believeing that your not influenced by things out of your control, but influenced by what you want to be influenced by you are in control of your life.

How else can we describe why some things happen??? Undescribably things.

*shoalin monks hold a spear to thier neck and try to stab themselves. They *Honestly* believe that the chi energy directed the right place of thier body, protects them for harm. A mind thing I believe this is.

we understand about 10% of our brains. Isn't it possible that this thoery could be true. We have never wondered if if we want something enough we can get it.

I can understand why people havent wondered this. Even if it was true it would be hard to keep persistant. Doubt, fears and other *mind* obsticles can get in the way of believing whole heartedly.

This is my thoery anyway, I believe that we are only just touching the beggining of the minds power.

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iAmThat
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posted September 14, 2004 12:51 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Suzume,

Good response. If you are what you believe in how come its easy to notice a cancerian, when he has not even heard of astrology. Cancerian are very very sensitive any one can tell.

Life is really a mystery. I was thinking that each individual is subject to limitation of body. When they learn to cross that limits and realize that they are not a body, neither a mind. I want to further add, and say what we really are but, but may be in a later post

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