posted October 01, 2004 12:44 AM              

I was not satisfied reading that Aquarius was based on a "cup bearer" of the gods was supposedly a young boy Zeus had brought into the court, b/c I know how many of the myths were altered.

Now I have had my suspicions confirmed after reading that Aquarius is indeed based on an older myth, of a goddess, midwife between life and unlife, who's job was to fill her womb/water pitcher with souls yet-to-be-born, and then pour them out onto the earth, thus giving them life. Much like the "star" on the tarot deck.

posted October 01, 2004 01:40 AM            

I used to wonder about the Scorp - earth creature/Water thing. Maybe there are no stinging marine creatures in the Persian Gulf nor the Mediterranean. Wonder why Scorp isn't the "stonefish", the "stingray", or "the sea anenome". Probably something as simple as Mesopotamians mistaking scorpions for a crustaceans, like the crab.

Also, I always found it interesting that rams (aries) and satyrs - half goat, half man (sag) are associated w/ fire, and goats (cappy) and bulls (taurus), are assoc with earth, however all four are bovines (or hybrids in the case of Sag).

posted October 01, 2004 02:29 AM              

Aguarius? I dont know anything about astrology but all I saw when reading this topic (Probly missing the point completey) was this:

Between life and death (born and unborn)
Between male and female (Male sign, female picture)
and between water and air

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either someone was very confused...or this sign is trying to show us something

LOL

posted October 01, 2004 02:52 AM              

But I did find the myth you were talking about, it's actually Egyption, talking about how Aquarius sets over the river Nile.

Still, this does't tell us a thing about Aquarius being male or female.

Although I did discover Hebe was the original female cup-bearer of the gods, replaced by a boy, in a homo-erotic sounding myth.

Yes, it certainly is a strange puzzle.

But the soul-drawing story was familiar to me, as I am named after an angel who had the same job, drawing from the river of unborn souls and pouring them into life.

posted October 01, 2004 04:54 AM              

Im a feminine girl by face, voice and bodymovement, but inside and often in business I can see that I am ruled by a masculine power. This becomes more strong when Im working and have alot of responsebility and I feel more feminine inside when together with a man ruled by masculine powers.

And once in asia a good friend told me...but Li you are a water bearer, a giver, you constantly HAVE to give from you never ending sourses...dunno if its true for all aquas but I have sometimes a problem giving too much not able to take for myself...men get cracy, angry with me of this...

posted October 01, 2004 05:01 AM              

But eaven though I often hurt water sigs withought wanting I get amasingly attracted to them and them by me...some of my very best friends are watersigns.

posted October 01, 2004 11:09 AM              

One way of looking at Aquarius as being an Air sign is how it conducts and receives information. Almost every Aquarius I know, including my dog, has problems with circulation or the heart as they get older. Or they might have epileptic type symptoms, as the nervous system is extremely delicate.

The heart has a little contraption called the Atrial Node, which is literally the heart's natural pacemaker, and is PURE ELECTRICITY within our body.

posted October 01, 2004 03:52 PM              

pixelpixie, next time you come to San Diego, let me know... i owes ya indeed!

posted October 01, 2004 10:34 PM              

Sorry to bother you if you are not into the Bible. But I was pondering over a similar question about man carrying pitcher and then I stumbled across your post.

Is Jesus pointing to us something by deciding to use the man carrying pitcher sign. Or is it just my imagination. Was it ok for a man to carry a pitcher that time?

I am quoting the verses from KJV for you or anyone who can throw a light on this.
The verses here occurs just before the last supper.

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Luke:

22:7 Then came the day of unleavened bread, when the passover must be killed.

22:8 And he sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare us the passover, that we may eat.

22:9 And they said unto him, Where wilt thou that we prepare?

22:10 And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

posted October 01, 2004 10:52 PM              

Does anyone have any thoughts on these subliminal images?

posted October 02, 2004 02:20 AM              

If you read the dead sea scrolls they are full of page after page of astrological charts of famous jewish leaders. Jesus would have known his astrology.

Astro- are you trying to stir up a hornets nest or what? I think you're trying to suggest that everyone go and read "the divinci code" an exellent book. It goes into how Jesus was married to Mary Magdaline, (she is the "feminine male" in the painting) and how she is symbolized by the "holy grail."

While I agree the evidence is there that she was his wife, I don't agree with the whole "English royalty" connection. How long has royalty been trying to convince it's subjects it is decended from God? It's the oldest trick in the book.

posted October 02, 2004 02:23 AM              

an·drog·y·nous - Pronunciation Key (n-drj-ns)
adj.
Biology. Having both female and male characteristics; hermaphroditic.
Being neither distinguishably masculine nor feminine, as in dress, appearance, or behavior.