posted October 02, 2004 12:03 AM              

I understand what you mean when you say Pisces being all the Signs collectively, and perhaps being able to call upon them. But was it Linda who said, just because someone's Sun is in Pisces, does not mean they are mature.

And he may not be motivated at all to do those daily rat race tasks. Does he have any Virgo or anything in the 6th House?

posted October 03, 2004 10:25 AM            

the person u speak of simply is more introverted than usual, and regarding his career, his idea of success has probably very little to do with the job/career/social status way of seing things.

posted October 03, 2004 10:58 AM              

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posted October 07, 2004 07:24 AM              

While Transits are by no means necessarily pleasant, I don't see their influence as ever *bad*. They are what they are. And I think Saturn transit IS a terrific reality checker.

I think the really positive things about Transits is them giving us a chance to re-examine our lives and to clear from them That Which Doesn't Work (certainly this is often a very painful process, but I think ultimately a very beneficial one). There is great peace in accepting your limitations, and accepting the shortcomings of another and coming to terms with what you want and don't want in your life.

Also, another aspect from relationship dynamics - sometimes a relationship ends up polarised and each partner ends up doing some of the work of the two people: so one is being hard-working and financially providing for both, while the other is being laid-back for two people. And ultimately the laid-back one doesn't have much motivation for changing who they are if someone else is doing all the finance work for them- you know? (I'm not saying that's what you were doing, just something to consider).

It could be that the Saturn transit just highlighted that very basic difference in your temperaments and that as someone else said your understanding of what constitutes a *real* job or a proper occupation and achievements is highly relative and very different. It could also be that each of you was acting out a particular aspect of the other's chart.

eg. My sister has a t-square between her Virgo Moon and a Neptune-Saturn Opposition. When looking at her chart I was telling her that I thought she was likely to be *disowning* or *projecting* her Neptune as it wasn't sitting comfortably in a very earthy formation - Virgo Moon was more sypathetic to the practical Saturn, and the tangible world than to the airy-fairy Neptune and that if she wasn't careful her partners would *act out* Neptune for her. I.E. That she would be drawn to a man who was very much the embodiement of that Neptune - greatly imaginative, full of ideas and inspiration and freedom, up in the clouds living the world of ideals while she'd end up saying that his magical world was all very well but in the meantime someone would need to pay the telephone bill.

Actually that's exactly what happened. Her partner of two years was the man described by that Neptune and at the time of her Saturinary Return (when Saturn came back to its original place in the birth chart and re-activated the Saturn-Neptune opposition) that relationship broke down.

The lesson from this: during that time they just decided that the differences between them were too much. The way out of an opposition is to meet in the middle, to balance the extremes and not be polarised by them - provided that's what you want.