posted October 07, 2004 05:33 PM            

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Sun in the Twelfth House

Composite Sun in the twelfth house is a significant position, but it presents challenges that many people find difficult to deal with.

It indicates that through this relationship both of you will encounter aspects of your inner selves that you would normally keep hidden from yourselves as well as from others.

The most difficult result of this Sun placement is that it may make the relationship self- defeating for both of you, particularly if you are not completely honest with each other. Unless you disclose all secrets, they will cause one or both of you to behave in a way that will undermine not only the relationship but your own self-esteem as well.

In any personal relationship, this placement demands that you thoroughly search your innermost selves to understand how previously hidden psychological traits are operating within the relationship. This encounter will make each of you grow as individuals, and the growth it can bring about is more important than your survival as a couple.

Sun Conjunct Mercury

The conjunction of composite Sun and Mercury signifies that there will be a great deal of mental activity in this relationship. This aspect is good for verbal communication between you.

You both should be wary of the tendency to intellectualize your emotions rather than deal with them at the gut level.

You have an unusual similarity of thinking, or at least a better than average ability to understand each other's thinking.

Mercury is a planet of travel, not always in the literal sense of the word, but in the metaphorical sense; that is, you like to be continually exposed to new ideas and experiences together.

One of the most positive attributes of this aspect is the ability to be detached from what you are discussing. Because of this detachment you may even be able to talk about your relationship and arrive at understandings that will help you both to get more out of it.

Sun Conjunct Venus

The conjunction of Sun and Venus in the composite chart is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria.

If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship.

Sun Conjunct Neptune

With Sun conjunct Neptune in the composite chart, there is either a lot of idealism or much self-delusion in this relationship. The challenge you face is to determine which of these is true in your case and to come to terms with this reality.

At any rate you will probably feel that the two of you have a highly spiritual union, which may in fact be so. The action of Neptune is very nonphysical, so that a love union under its influence is likely to be platonic rather than physical.

The second possibility, that of self-delusion, simply means that the two of you are not confronting each other but instead are projecting visions of what you want on your partner.

All these tactics represent insincere or self-delusive efforts to avoid the real people in the relationship - you and your partner.

Moon in the Fourth House

With this placement it is extremely important that the two of you share a common background or experience, for it is likely to be a strong force binding you together. You may feel that you are alone together in a crazy world, protected only by your shared attitudes and origins.

You are together to give each other emotional security. Your security is very likely to take the form of sharing real estate or a house. However, it is necessary to warn you that your desire for emotional security and the related tendency to seek material security should not become the sole factors binding you together. Let your partner know how you feel; your relationship is probably strong enough to stand the strain.

Mercury Conjunct Venus

Mercury conjunct Venus is an excellent aspect in a composite chart, for it indicates that you both are able to express affection easily.

Another fortunate attribute of this conjunction is that it gives you sensitivity to each other's feelings.

This aspect should help smooth out the roughness that occasionally comes up in any relationship, but it may also make you keep quiet for the sake of preserving harmony when you feel angry. Go ahead and say what you feel, for you will be able to express what must be said in the right way.

Venus in the Twelfth House

Composite Venus is one of the least difficult planets to have in the twelfth house.

This placement signifies that while you may have strong feelings of affection for each other, you may not be demonstrative about them. Other people may not even be aware of how you feel about each other. The twelfth-house Venus can be a sign of a secret relationship.

Your relationship may be influenced to a considerable degree by unconscious factors in both of you. It may be difficult to understand the dynamics of this relationship. This can be either good or bad, of course, depending on what you do. In any case, you should try to understand what lies behind your relationship.

On the clearly positive side, this placement can help both of you overcome your ego-drives within the relationship. You are able to think of yourselves as a unit and to subordinate your personal interests to your interests as a couple.

Note: Venus is technically near the end of house 11 and is therefore interpreted in house 12.

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for ShyGirl (female)
born on 28 Dec 1977 local time 05:20 am
in Auckland, NZ U.T. 16-20
174e46, 36s52 sid. time 10:23:12
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Capricorn 05°48'41 01
Moon Cancer 29°14'15 08
Mercury Sagittarius 22°38'08 12/1
Venus Sagittarius 29°41'42 01
Mars Leo 10°03'08 09
Jupiter Cancer 00°26'33 07
Saturn Virgo 00°18'23 09
Uranus Scorpio 15°07'16 11/12
Neptune Sagittarius 16°35'17 12
Pluto Libra 16°32'49 11
True Node Libra 10°51'56 11

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 25°07'34
2nd House Capricorn 16°26'02
3rd House Aquarius 08°08'56
Imum Coeli Pisces 03°54'15
5th House Aries 07°05'04
6th House Taurus 17°03'51
Descendant Gemini 25°07'34
8th House Cancer 16°26'02
9th House Leo 08°08'56
Medium Coeli Virgo 03°54'15
11th House Libra 07°05'04
12th House Scorpio 17°03'51

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and Steve (male)
born on 6 Nov 1978 local time 11:38 am
in Boston, MA (US) U.T. 16:38
71w04, 42n22 sid. time 14:55:53
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Scorpio 13°54'56 09/10
Moon Aquarius 00°55'59 01
Mercury Sagittarius 04°33'38 10
Venus Scorpio 15°51'28 09/10
Mars Sagittarius 03°20'23 10
Jupiter Leo 08°27'57 07
Saturn Virgo 11°53'51 08
Uranus Scorpio 16°32'47 10
Neptune Sagittarius 16°48'53 11
Pluto Libra 17°39'19 09
True Node Virgo 25°35'12 08

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 20°51'28
2nd House Pisces 06°38'47
3rd House Aries 17°25'37
Imum Coeli Taurus 16°26'18
5th House Gemini 08°35'38
6th House Gemini 28°34'38
Descendant Cancer 20°51'28
8th House Virgo 06°38'47
9th House Libra 17°25'37
Medium Coeli Scorpio 16°26'18
11th House Sagittarius 08°35'38
12th House Sagittarius 28°34'38

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Composite Horoscope midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Sagittarius 09°51'49 12
Moon Taurus 00°05'07 04
Mercury Sagittarius 13°35'53 12
Venus Sagittarius 07°46'35 11/12
Venus is technically near the end of house 11 and is interpreted in house 12.
Mars Libra 06°41'45 09
Jupiter Cancer 19°27'15 07
Saturn Virgo 06°06'07 08
Uranus Scorpio 15°50'01 11
Neptune Sagittarius 16°42'05 12
Pluto Libra 17°06'04 10
True Node Libra 03°13'34 09

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 07°59'31
2nd House Aquarius 11°32'24
3rd House Pisces 12°47'17
Imum Coeli Aries 10°10'16
5th House Taurus 07°50'21
6th House Gemini 07°49'15
Descendant Cancer 07°59'31
8th House Leo 11°32'24
9th House Virgo 12°47'17
Medium Coeli Libra 10°10'16
11th House Scorpio 07°50'21
12th House Sagittarius 07°49'15

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posted October 07, 2004 05:37 PM              

The rest of the composite sounds warm, enticing, friendly, respectful,
how are things between you two? I would assume there are physical sparks.

posted October 08, 2004 02:16 AM            

I'm just as lazy... and just as resourceful;
I already read the composite info on astro.com...
But there's no Synastry interpretation
(and that seems to be the more popular method for interpreting relationships).
Thank you though, that was very kind of you.

Natasha -

Yeah, i thought it sounded pretty encouraging. In fact, I dont see much negative at all. For one thing:
The ego clashes;
I live for them!
And all that platonic idealism and so on
sounds terrific -
especially as the mars sextile sun promises a strong physical attraction as well.
But, for the results, we'll have to wait
(if we're lucky);
I may never so much as exchange word with this person.
I just read some stuff she wrote and
"fell in love"...
It happens every now and then.
What's today, Thursday?

posted October 09, 2004 04:59 PM              

I checked out your chart and noticed that you have Uranus conj your midheaven- I have that too, except in Sag. Have you studied it much? I've always wanted to meet someone with this aspect. I feel as though it's important in my chart but I don't know how to interpret it.

Looking at your synastry... I'm just going to ramble in non-cohesive sentences... Scorps and Caps that I know get along quite well, Caps are often really attracted to Scorpios... Your Jupiter is conjunct her Mars, I've never experienced that one but I bet it would create some fireworks... Mars and Jupiter energies blend perfectly together... Your moons being opposite would create some nice fireworks as well. It seems to me like you would have just the right amount of seriousness, depth and spark with this person.

I do second what Yin said- not too much overanalyzing and more action. I'm totally calling the kettle black right now, if you knew my tendencies at overanalyzation... but it's the truth, even if I can't manage to live it all the time.

posted October 10, 2004 05:22 PM              

"Medium Coeli

At the cusp of the Tenth House sits the Medium Coeli (M.C.), which is sometimes called the Midheaven. This point represents your public persona, different from your Ascendant in that it's not exactly about the way you are initially perceived, but more about how your career and social standing reflect upon your place in the world. The Sign that rests at the Medium Coeli in your astrological chart, then, reflects your perceived public persona. Just the opposite of the I.C., efforts of the planets situated near the M.C. may receive a great deal of attention -- sometimes undue and negative attention. For example, Venus falls very near the Midheaven in the chart of actress Meg Ryan, Hollywood's most popular romantic actress. The actress is also admired as something like America's sweetheart, and the press can't help themselves when it comes to her love life: They cover its ups and downs very closely."

"When an astrologer offers career guidance to someone, the Midheaven is certainly not the only factor to be taken into consideration. We cannot look at a Midheaven sign and say "Oh yes, you need to go and become an accountant"! Looking at the Midheaven sign does give us an indication of the type of career the individual would *like* to have - although whether this is possible/practical would need to be assessed through a careful look at the rest of the natal chart in detail."

"Aquarius Midheaven:

Need absolute freedom in their career, and need, above all, to be able to be innovative. Not particularly motivated by money. Typical career routes include cutting edge technology, space industry, airline industry, IT industry, optician, conservation, television work, photography, humanitarian work, publishing, the legal profession, telecommunications."

"Your Aquarius Midheaven

Those with Aquarius ruling the tenth house are apt to attract public attention. Noteworthy activities that bring you attention are likely to be connected with some impact you make on society, which could include anything from criminal acts to outstanding humanitarian projects you have sponsored. Another implication of Aquarius is that at some point, usually after you have already embarked on certain careers or lifestyles, you are apt to take an unexpected and completely different turn. It may not necessarily be your choice to switch gears in mid-stream but even if you do not initiate such radical changes, circumstances may occur that will force a change in your directions and destinies. The influence of Aquarius is also an implication that your career choices or long range goals are related to some unusual or unorthodox area.

posted October 11, 2004 09:58 AM            

How do I think the Uranus MC affects me?
Well,....

1. I'm a sucker for reverse psychology;
tell me to do something and you can be sure I won't even consider it.

2. I resent even my own authority.

3. I've been known to walk out on jobs "on a whim".

4. I've considered founding a "religion" that everyone is already a devout member of
(whether they believe it or not).

5. I've also thought of pioneering a field of astrological psychology,

6. becoming a spiritual recluse,

7. committing suicide,

8. advocating the right to guilt-free suicide,

9. denouncing procreation,

10. and combatting the lie that is free will.

11. And I've considered film a possible medium.

You think I'm weird now, don't you?

hsc

Ps. You said: "I imagine you and I would get along quite well, now that I've studied your chart!"