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Topic: OK - This Goes Out to All the Great Dames Here
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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 02:01 PM
 
So guys? You're going to have to sit this one out, unless you don't need girlfriend advice, and you really ARE interested in astrology.OK toots - What Signs or influences indicate a dame who does not like to show vulnerability. You do not like to cry, or show sadness. In addition, you've done this to such a great extent, that you feel it needs to come out, but you don't know where to start because none of your friends are used to seeing that side of you. Like - when it gets to that point ... you know? IP: Logged |
GingerB
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posted October 22, 2004 02:09 PM
Well,i'm not that versed on astrology, but i can tell you about me, then you tell me what signs or influences they are.
Will that work?First, I am sensitive.
But I do not like to show that to be a weakness if at all possible to anyone, who'd ridicule it.
I am very much the person, you'd want standing behind you or in front of you as far as danger or mistreatment of any kind. At one time in my life I stood between two good size groups of drunk & armed rednecks, and told them if they were gonna start shooting into the crowd to start with me, cause i'd rather be shot dead than crippled by a stray bullet!
They stopped what they were doing and everyone left... Now would that be Capricorn or Leo, or the Scorpio in my chart? IP: Logged |
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posted October 22, 2004 02:22 PM
I know of very tough Capricorn, Aries and Sag women.
I would guess that lots of air in the chart will make one more detached and not-so-sensitive-appearing.IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted October 22, 2004 02:38 PM
Leos, Leo ascendant, Leo moons, Aries Moon, Scorpio Sun, Mercury, or Mars.Some Sag suns with Venus in Capricorn,
Capricorn Suns. Natasha
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KarenSD
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posted October 22, 2004 02:44 PM
I think Pisces are the worst at being able to keep things in... I speak from experience!  I do believe that those whose Sun is in Capricorn, Sagittarius or Aries are tops at being "in control," from the friends I have had over the years... but I'm no expert!!! My Aries sister FINALLY, at almost age 50 is just NOW learning how to able to (and that it is OK to!) show her emotions. My Sag best friend at almost 40 is totally incapable of any sort of emotion, up or down or anywhere in between ... I can't even relate to that kind of behaviour from those two dames but I love 'em just the same. IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted October 22, 2004 02:59 PM
AJ, hon... are you feeling this way, or is this just a hypothetical situation?IP: Logged |
mysticme74
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posted October 22, 2004 02:59 PM
well i have that problem. i've been through ALOT in my life and just plow through. everyone is always saying how courageous i am and how strong i am, etc.. but inside i'm usually wigging out and sometimes i get resentful that it's become expected of me not to fall apart...i chalked it up to my aries rising and pisces moon...?? libra sun
aries rising
pisces moon
virgo venus
scorpio mercury
libra mars
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LibraSparkle
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posted October 22, 2004 03:22 PM
I'm exactly the opposite.Often, I'm crying and don't want to be, getting frustrated ... which makes me cry more and there goes the vicious circle. I hate it! If I feel a flood of emotion (+ or -), I cry. Sometimes it's kinda funny. Most of the people close to me just know this, and act accordingly... BUT some people don't know how to handle a crying female... You know what's the worst?! When I'm bawling and something funny happens and I'm laughing and crying at the same time. It's really an awful feeling... like I'm being ripped in two directions. It's confusing. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 03:22 PM
Mysticme -What's in your 10th House, & what Sign is your Saturn in? Do you have any Aspects to your Saturn? Thank you very much. .gloria IP: Logged |
lioneye68
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posted October 22, 2004 03:23 PM
Aquarius. They are so out of touch with their own feelings that they end up causing themselves near nervous breakdowns from all the bottling up and brushing aside of regular human emotion. They don't even acknowledge having them to theirselves. But the pressure has to be released eventually, one way or another. You know how Uranian energy is. Sudden, unexpected and extreme...hit's you like lightening from out of a blue sky. IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 03:32 PM
So, if someone, whether they be male or female, has enormous feelings inside, whether anger or love, what have you - and I'm talking about, a good person, not someone you're afraid is going to go ballistic type-thing - but someone you know as a good friend who needs to get stuff out. On the one hand, you don't want to sound patronizing. On the other hand, you don't want to scare that person away and ruin what you've built up until then?Does anyone understand what I'm saying? Not to detract from the original question, but I have this side question. Thanks.  IP: Logged |
mysticme74
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posted October 22, 2004 04:47 PM
Mysticme -
What's in your 10th House, & what Sign is your Saturn in? Do you have any Aspects to your Saturn? Thank you very much..gloria
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mysticme74
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posted October 22, 2004 04:49 PM
Gloria,is your 10th house also called your 'Midheaven'? if so, it's in capricorn. saturn is in cancer Saturn Square Ascendant mysticme
ps.. sorry for the message before. i copy and pasted your message to answer your questions and accidentally sent it before i got a chance to type anything! doh!
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mysticme74
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posted October 22, 2004 04:49 PM
http://astro-software.com/cgi-bin/astro/natal?name=Rachel&sex=f&d1day=28&d1month=9&d1year=1974&d1hour=19&d1min=2&citylist=San%20Diego,%20CA%20(6),%20USA&lang=en here's my chart in case you want to see anything else!  IP: Logged |
mysticme74
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posted October 22, 2004 04:53 PM
astrojunkie,as far as your 'side question'.. i know someone like that. he's a scorpio, capricorn moon... (don't know birth time to get rising) you can tell sometimes he's about to explode he's got such emotion going on inside. but he wont show it. he releases it through art though.. so that's a good outlet. i just wish he'd actually TALK about it more. IP: Logged |
chrissymgreen
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posted October 22, 2004 05:33 PM
dear gloria,i have venus square saturn in an exact applying aspect, the moon square pluto in an exact applying aspect, and the sun opposite pluto in an exact aspect. i *hate* showing my emotions sometimes, especially where it concerns love. i can be intensely private, because for some reason i hate the messiness of my emotions sometimes. on the one hand, with a libra AC and a singleton pisces sun, i'm incredibly open and accepting and compassionate, but on the other hand those 3 aspects figure prominently into my psychological make-up. "So, if someone, whether they be male or female, has enormous feelings inside, whether anger or love, what have you - and I'm talking about, a good person, not someone you're afraid is going to go ballistic type-thing - but someone you know as a good friend who needs to get stuff out. On the one hand, you don't want to sound patronizing. On the other hand, you don't want to scare that person away and ruin what you've built up until then?" you're asking about how to approach someone with the kinds of aspects or sign/house/planet placements that would indicate that they tend to keep things bottled up inside, right? i know that one thing i may feel i lack from external sources when i suppress my emotions or keep things under wraps is reassurance that everything's ok. maybe it's that pluto acting through me...i feel a volcano under the surface, and i'm just afraid how other people will react or respond. i think i just need to feel comfortable enough. it can take a lot for me to get there. -chrissy IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 05:59 PM
Mysticme -It could be from what you just posted in response as well. Yes, MC or Midheaven is the 10th House. The 10th is ruled by Capricorn, so that's how you approach your career. You need prestige and acknowledgment. The Saturn in Cancer, that's going though a helacious Transit right now, but they are also opposing energies. And Saturn Square Asc is kind of like having a chip on your shoulder. Don't get passed up for promotions! Toot your horn lady! At the risk of embarrassing yourself, just make sure you are heard!!  IP: Logged |
ScotScorp
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posted October 22, 2004 07:19 PM
I know AJ knows what I am... or atleast here's the reminder:I am a Scorpio/Leo/Leo and I RARELY show my true emotions. I don't cry in front of anyone unless I'm extremely tramatized, and the only time I remember that happening in the past 10 years was w/my Virgo/Scorpio/Libra brother being an a$$ and my Dad actually held me and almost cried because of my crying. It's one of those... if you don't do it often enough, you just let it all go at the same time.
I know at my Mom's funeral a few years back, alot of people, even people I didn't know or knew me only as a little girl told me that I should "go ahead and cry". I did laugh a few times during visitation and I think it shocked alot of people that I didn't break down every time someone passed along condolences. What people didn't see though was that I would visit her everyday by myself and talk and cry over her w/the door to the room closed. I do tend to also be like GingerB... strong, "don't mess w/me" aura. I had a discussion about my "lack of emotional expression" to my bestest talkin' buddy, a Cancer/Cancer/Pisces. Now THERE'S my extreme opposite!! She tells me: "You know that you can tell me how you're feeling, if you need to talk, just call me!" And I say: "Where do I start w/the drama that is inside my Scorpio head????" Ugh! So easy to say...... I think it helps that before something touchy is discussed, that you could warn that you don't want to sound "patronizing". Tact is an art these days in a politically correct world. Angela P.S. Not to bring outside interests into the thread, but since my favorite sports team won their series last night and are headed to the World Series, I have been fighting back the tears every time the TV or radio is on. I really do rarely cry, but when you're part of the "nation" in the MidWest, this is a HUGE emotional deal.  I haven't let one fall yet. Should just get it over with, otherwise I'll be dancing and crying while watching the big screen on my favorite honkytonk dance floor tomorrow nite! *giggle* IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 07:25 PM
Yeah, Cancer's & Leo's can do really well together. Cancer women don't mean to try to solve your problems. She's just saying she'll listen, because of the act of just getting it out may be helpful.Sometimes we'll ask guys, what do you think about this or that, or we just want to talk about what happened to us, and we do NOT mean "please solve the problem". We will just listen, and a good friend will continue to be your friend if it is unconditional love.  IP: Logged |
ScotScorp
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posted October 22, 2004 07:33 PM
AJ-
Yeah, I know she would just listen. She is so kind and generous with her feelings and everyone else's. I can definately tell her about my problems, but I just have a harder time telling ANYONE (including her) about the actual feelings about those problems.Does that make sense, that there's a difference, atleast to me? And she has already shed her "sports team tears". ROFLMAO. I so admire her emotional frankness. Atleast I am consious of my feelings and am trying to work on expressing them to someone (like her) that truly cares. Angela
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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 07:57 PM
But Angela, waiting for a particular person to arrive in your life so you can open your heart to them could mean when you were younger, you did not feel that your feelings were acknowledged, like most of us! Is there a way for you to close that chapter? And that way, you can sit on the curb and cry like a drunk, and not give a sh!t what anybody thinks of you. It won't be dependent on someone's approval. You'll do it because you felt like saying it. F it!  IP: Logged |
ScotScorp
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posted October 22, 2004 08:02 PM
AJ-Dead on you are. You should start writing that astrology book now. I am already proud that I can say NO to just about anyone now.. been working on that for about a year. I'm getting into a "me me" kinda mind set now, because (even though I have that supposed "spotlight on me" leo asc.) I have not been a "self centered" kinda person until the past year or so. It's refreshing to live for myself w/o other's approval, except for the "true feeling" parts. I tend to still omit them from people. Fear of hurting/offending. Gotta stop that. (slap hand) Bad girl!  Angela
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astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 09:04 PM
Like some of my favorite instructors have told me, most people are not focused on you at all. Most people are focusing on what you're focusing on about THEM.So you spill the wine -
"I was once out strolling one very hot summer's day
When I thought I'd lay myself down to rest
In a big field of tall grass
I laid there in the sun and felt it carressing my face
And i fell asleep and dreamed
I dreamed i was in a hollywood movie
And that i was the star of the movie
This really blew my mind
The fact that me an overfed long haired leaping gnome
Should be the star of a hollywood movie, hmmm
But there i was
I was taken to a place
The hall of the mountain kings
I stood high by the mountain tops
Naked to the world
In front of
Every kind of girl
There was long one's tall ones, short ones, brown ones,
Black ones, round ones, big ones, crazy ones
Out of the middle, came a lady
She whispered in my ear
Something crazy
She said,
Spill the wine and take that pearl I could feel hot flames of fire roaring at my back
As she disappeared, but soon she returned
In her hand was a bottle of wine
In the other a glass
She poured some of the wine from the bottle into the glass
And raised it to her lips
And just before she drank it, she said take the wine take that girl
spill the wine, take that girl
spill the wine, take that girl
spill the wine, take that girl It's on girl, all you gotta do is spill that wine
spill that wine, let me feel, let me feel hot, yeah! yeah!
spill the wine, spill the wine, spill the wine, spill the wine,
take that girl!" IP: Logged |
LibraSparkle
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posted October 22, 2004 09:11 PM
hehe"AJ-Dead on you are."  IP: Logged |
astro junkie
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posted October 22, 2004 09:21 PM
YODA!!! I knew one day you'd come back into my life again. I have so much to talk to you about!!! I've been practicing levitation ... practice every day, one must ...
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